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And what if instead we went to the real world where he was actually lined up right next to the left tackle?
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"as soon as I lined up out/at? wide".....his words
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Well he wasn't lined up at guard. However he was lined up right next to the LT, and immediately his first move was engaging the michigan defender. They were yelling screen before he even disengaged. Again, it was a brand new play they could not have possibly scouted yet they inexplicably knew it before the play even started taking shape, against an offense that rarely if ever threw TE screens. You talk about "tendencies" yet this was the exact opposite of that.
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To be clear, the only way your suggestion makes sense is if a conspiracy theory about hacking is true. Mine makes sense in ALL other circumstances that are perfectly normal.
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To be clear, that's an absolute load of shit. You've called everything that has come true a "conspiracy theory" up to this point so you don't have much credibility, and I also have no idea how you can say "perfectly normal circumstances" would involve knowing exactly who the target would be on a play that had never been run before simply by scouting old game footage since, well, it had never been run before.
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My guy, you just claimed Michigan hacked Ohio State. That's a literal conspiracy theory.
There's a very easy explanation for this, scouting, and then there's an absurd explanation for this, hacking. You chose absurd.
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My guy, this allegation surfaced back in October 2023, and it wasn't my claim.
And again, please explain how scouting would work for a play that has never been run from a formation that has never been used.
I have never claimed Michigan was innocent or guilty. I will say that Michigan was under the microscope during Maryland, Penn State, ohio state, Alabama and Washington, so the probability of them cheating was very low. This thread summed up in one image.
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I already did. Teams have tendencies; players line up in a certain formation or at certain spots and do certain things. This is how scouting works. Michigan might not have even been triggered to the screen by the TE lining up as a wideout -- it could have been who they brought in (a different RB?) a formation they were in, or any number of things. That's how scouting works. That's how defenses scout and prepare for teams. Let me put it in other terms, if Michigan brings in Alex Orji in any formation (even one they've never run) what do you think Michigan is going to do? (hint: run Alex Orji)
If you think someone hacked Ohio State -- who are they and how have they not been charged by now? this isn't something bound to an NCAA investigation.
And if you're going to say Matt Weiss, we already had a statement on this from a year ago
So in your conspiracy, an unnamed, not arrested, individual hacked Ohio State practice footage, gave it to Michigan and that's how we spotted a TE screen in 2022/2023?
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"A University of Michigan police department spokesperson told ESPN's Dan Murphy that the Weiss investigation is unrelated to the NCAA's probe of off-campus scouting and signal stealing involving the program and staff member Connor Stalions, who was around the program in 2021 before officially joining the staff in 2022."
Could be a separate charge altogether uncovered in the NCAA investigation AFTER that statement was made by the University police dept. Their statement was specific regarding Stalions in-person scouting.
Of course someone else hacking practice film would be "unrelated" to that.
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No chance they were cheating during those games. However, had they already scouted those opponents before? Almost certainly.I have never claimed Michigan was innocent or guilty. I will say that Michigan was under the microscope during Maryland, Penn State, ohio state, Alabama and Washington, so the probability of them cheating was very low. This thread summed up in one image.
Do teams scout their opponents?
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In advance and in person? No. Just Michigan.
You have to scout someone in advance ... other than that it makes no sense.
How does in-person give a team an edge weeks later?
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If there is no advantage why is it against the rules?
This is a long discussion ... I will answer ... just not now!!!
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The rumor at the time was that he inappropriately accessed Cade's email account, Cade was somehow notified of the breach, and that's what started this -- which actually makes more sense now that the Iowa stuff came out with Cade.
Everything on the Michigan end that was released suggests he was in trouble for accessing accounts within the University.
If he was hacking other Universities, I feel like that would have leaked by now. Too many people would know about that.
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Well he was lined up as a TE, not a wideout, as he was lined up directly next to the LT. Again, you can't deduce tendencies from a play that's never been run out of a formation that has never been used without knowing ahead of time what it is.
Also, in the statement you linked, I see nothing at all stating they didn't find anything football-related on his computer. It simply states that investigation was unrelated, which is true because that specific investigation was initiated because he was committing cybercrimes.
Problem here is you've called everything you don't like a conspiracy or something along those lines. Remember when you said Stallions on the CMU sidelines was a conspiracy? The NCAA has evidence it's true. Remember when you said Stallions acted as a "lone wolf" and nobody else knew? The NCAA has evidence that multiple team interns and at least one staff member knew about it. Also if this idea that they had our practice footage is so outrageous, why did Stallions remove servers from the team's offices in 2023? What could have possibly been on those servers? But sure, alleging that the offensive coordinator who was found guilty of cybercrimes related to hacking could have never hacked OSU's practice film. That's just insane. Just like every other thing that has turned out to be true, right?
That is a question I have been asking. Why is in-person scouting against the rules ... because some teams (that fill the stadiums, sell merch, have TV contract, etc $$$$$$) can't afford it.
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