AP Poll is interesting ...

[michaeljordan_fan]

I am assuming you mean this year. I agree that in most years it will be the loser of the B1G or SEC CCG. And the way the polls are lining up, you are probably right although with the SEC's SOS that pisses my off a bit. But, I can live with it.

SEC brought it on themselves with some bad losses.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

It would take a 20+ blowout to knock Indiana below 12.

They need to be 11 or better unless the G5 is in the top 11.

So, a team that has not won a single game against a ranked team and has the 100th SOS is going to get in over teams that have SOS in the top 10/20? So, do you think the committee should just look at the number of losses? Because that is what it wounds like.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

SEC brought it on themselves with some bad losses.

Let me fix this - the SEC brought it on themselves because they have a lot more better teams that played each other.

Looks like you are a loss counter, or one who only looks at losses, not at wins or SOS. For their own sake, I hope the are better than that or they won't exist in 2 years.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

They need to be 11 or better unless the G5 is in the top 11.

So, a team that has not won a single game against a ranked team and has the 100th SOS is going to get in over teams that have SOS in the top 10/20? So, do you think the committee should just look at the number of losses? Because that is what it wounds like.

Where is Indiana ranked now? Their SOS is only going to improve.

As for the g5, they are already in the top12 and will be there at the end barring another loss.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Let me fix this - the SEC brought it on themselves because they have a lot more better teams that played each other.

Looks like you are a loss counter, or one who only looks at losses, not at wins or SOS. For their own sake, I hope the are better than that or they won't exist in 2 years.

I'm not the one ranking teams. The committee has plainly showed what they value. Only the deluded continue to ignore it while screaming "SOS", which is apropos considering how lost they are.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Where is Indiana ranked now? Their SOS is only going to improve.

As for the g5, they are already in the top12 and will be there at the end barring another loss.

They are currently ranked there because they are undefeated.

Answer my question ... what would their record be in your mind if they played UGA's schedule?

The G5 is in last week's poll at 12. I am guessing they will be 13 this week.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I'm not the one ranking teams. The committee has plainly showed what they value. Only the deluded continue to ignore it while screaming "SOS", which is apropos considering how lost they are.

I am not screaming anything. I am having a discussion. If the committee ignores SOS, they will have 2 more years and no longer be in existence. Do you agree?

With a few exceptions, they appear to be looking mostly at losses. But some SOS here and there. We'll see.

Again, what would UI's record be in they played UGA's schedule?

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

They are currently ranked there because they are undefeated.

Answer my question ... what would their record be in your mind if they played UGA's schedule?

The G5 is in last week's poll at 12. I am guessing they will be 13 this week.

You should ask the committee. I'm just stating what is obvious based on their rankings. They are in at 11-1.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

You should ask the committee. I'm just stating what is obvious based on their rankings. They are in at 11-1.

It's funny how you keep going back and forth between the polls. You said that UI would have to drop 7 spaces to be out - the AP has them at 4 while the CFP has them at 8. Stick to one poll.

But in the CFP last week, they were at 8 which means the committee doesn't think they are that good. Now, if they beat tOSU I agree they should be in. But if they lose, they could drop out because in the starting poll, they had five 1 loss teams in front of them. You are the one saying look what the committee did ... they valued SOS over fewer losses. So we agree on that point. If UI loses the only game they played to a ranked team, I think they will drop to 13-15 in the CFP.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

It's funny how you keep going back and forth between the polls. You said that UI would have to drop 7 spaces to be out - the AP has them at 4 while the CFP has them at 8. Stick to one poll.

But in the CFP last week, they were at 8 which means the committee doesn't think they are that good. Now, if they beat tOSU I agree they should be in. But if they lose, they could drop out because in the starting poll, they had five 1 loss teams in front of them. You are the one saying look what the committee did ... they valued SOS over fewer losses. So we agree on that point. If UI loses the only game they played to a ranked team, I think they will drop to 13-15 in the CFP.

Lol, you think they will be at 8 this week?

Please tell me you aren't that dumb.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Lol, you think they will be at 8 this week?

Please tell me you aren't that dumb.

You know I am not that dumb. Of course they won't be because 2 teams lost in front of them. But they won't be 4th as you intimated.

You've been harping about them not looking at SOS - I am guessing because you were looking at the AP poll. I get it, it can be confusing. But you have to admit that the CFP did take SOS into consideration, at least with regard to IU. So lose the "Please tell me you aren't that dumb" bullshit. We were respectfully discussing something. Let's keep it that way.

And you keep ignoring my question - what would IU's record be if they played UGA's schedule, because that will be relevant.

 

[ELTEXAN]

What happens when Auburn beats TAMU?

 

[batchaps4me]

What happens when Auburn beats TAMU?

I will let you know in the next season or so.

 

[ericd7633]

Your first part - that's kind of the point, isn't it? If they just count losses, and don't do a holistic review, the one loss team gets in before the two loss team. If they do that, there won't be a committee in 2026 and the SEC and the B1G will get the two byes in a 14-team playoff, and 4 AQs each. I don't want that, but that is what will happen if they don't account for SOS when teams play vastly different levels of competition. If IU gets in before UGA because they had 1 loss and UGA had 2, you would be ignoring that IU played and lost to 1 ranked team, while UGA played Clemson, @Bama, @Texas, @OM, and Tenn losing two away games. The committee's job is to determine what IU's record would be playing UGA's schedule, and what would UGA's be if they played IU's schedule.

IMO you can't compare UNI and Kentucky losses. UNI is not good, and doesn't play anyone. UNI has the 71st SOS, while Kentucky is 6th. If UNI had run the table in the MAC, maybe you would have an argument. But they are 5-4. You have the worst loss in all CFB, and if ATM wins the SEC, you might have the best win in CFB.

I do hope they account for SOS. A 2 loss Texas and UGA have extremely different resumes. UGA, IMO, will have the best resume out of all the SEC teams. I'd be okay if they were ranked ahead of 1 loss IU or PSU. But not Texas, their best win would be against Vandy? A 2 loss Ole Miss and Tennessee have pretty weak resumes as well.

Both Kentucky and NIU are terrible. Just because Kentucky has played a difficult schedule doesn't mean they are a quality team. FSU has the 5th ranked schedule. They suck. Just like Kentucky.

 

[duckboy33]

Let's assume that the ACC and Big 12 are one bid leagues. I think that's the most likely scenario. Notre Dame is also likely to win out and make the CFP. The G5 will be there as well. That leaves 8 bids for the SEC and Big Ten.

In the Big Ten you have:

Oregon
Ohio State
Penn State
Indiana

In the SEC you have:
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Tennessee

2 of the teams above are going to miss the playoffs.

 

[ericd7633]

I am assuming you mean this year. I agree that in most years it will be the loser of the B1G or SEC CCG. And the way the polls are lining up, you are probably right although with the SEC's SOS that pisses my off a bit. But, I can live with it.

Tennessee, Texas and Ole Miss's SOS are vastly different than UGA's. UGA would have a legitimate argument to be ranked ahead of 1 loss IU, PSU, ND. Those other 3 not so much. You're lumping all them together because SEC, but their resumes would all be much worse than UGA's if all are 2 loss teams.

 

[fishinabarrel]

I am not screaming anything. I am having a discussion. If the committee ignores SOS, they will have 2 more years and no longer be in existence. Do you agree?

With a few exceptions, they appear to be looking mostly at losses. But some SOS here and there. We'll see.

Again, what would UI's record be in they played UGA's schedule?

The biggest thing Indiana has going for them is they have mostly blown out all that weak competition they have faced. It would look far different if they were sneaking by most teams and had that terrible SOS.

With Georgia's schedule I'd give them 4 losses. Maybe 3. I could downgrade that to 2 once I see how they perform against Ohio State.

 

[ELTEXAN]

I do hope they account for SOS. A 2 loss Texas and UGA have extremely different resumes. UGA, IMO, will have the best resume out of all the SEC teams. I'd be okay if they were ranked ahead of 1 loss IU or PSU. But not Texas, their best win would be against Vandy? A 2 loss Ole Miss and Tennessee have pretty weak resumes as well.

Both Kentucky and NIU are terrible. Just because Kentucky has played a difficult schedule doesn't mean they are a quality team. FSU has the 5th ranked schedule. They suck. Just like Kentucky.

Texas plays all the teams that directly beat all the teams you say are ‘better.’

 

[fishinabarrel]

Texas plays all the teams that directly beat all the teams you say are ‘better.’

Only team he said was better was UGA in terms of resume. Texas doesn't play Bama or Ole Miss.

Unless you are saying Ole Miss and Tennessee as well but he stated their resumes would leak weak as well

 

[ericd7633]

Texas plays all the teams that directly beat all the teams you say are ‘better.’

Texas' schedule is UGA and A&M. Nobody else is really worth anything. If all these SEC teams have 2 losses, Texas' resume will be by far the worst. It stinks for them Michigan and OU turned out to be terrible this year. That's obviously not the case most years.