AP Poll is interesting ...

For the "the committee doesn't care about the name of the jersey" people. They've already done it before when they jumped Ohio State over Baylor & TCU in 2014. Ohio State isn't jumping over a more established football school that year like Texas if hypothetically that was the scenario.
 
Across The Field said:
If OSU loses to Indiana and misses out on the B1G CCG they should be grateful to get any seed they can.
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If OSU loses to Indiana and they don't fire Ryan Day when the final whistle sounds -- I will be shocked. Indiana is not that good at all. Michigan almost beat them and we are historically bad on offense.

Indiana had like 12 yards offense in the 2nd half against us and we were playing multiple backups in the secondary.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
2 loss Texas would absolutely get in over 1 loss Indiana even though Texas has 1 more loss and also zero quality wins.

Anyone who thinks the name of the jersey isn't gonna take some control in a situation like this is delusional. What matchup is gonna draw more eyes? Say Texas is the 11 seed. Penn State vs Texas or Penn State vs Indiana? Not even a debate.
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I have stated that here in other posts. But, I think UI has to lose close to tOSU.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
If OSU loses to Indiana and they don't fire Ryan Day when the final whistle sounds -- I will be shocked. Indiana is not that good at all. Michigan almost beat them and we are historically bad on offense.

Indiana had like 12 yards offense in the 2nd half against us and we were playing multiple backups in the secondary.
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I figured Indiana would lose or almost lose to Michigan. Michigan has zero depth and they aren't well coached at all but they are still the most talented team by far that Indiana has played, they got punched in the mouth a few times and almost crumbled. Indiana has been coasting against bad teams all year I think when they finally run into the Ohio State wall we will win fairly easily. Indiana clearly has issues at certain spots that they just have not faced anyone who's had enough ability to exploit those issues.
 
So, are we saying:
Ohio State 55
Indiana 20
 
hey man just wanted to drop in and say... remember when people said the 12 team playoff was going to ruin all the suspense?? ahh the good ol days
 
osubuckeye89 said:
2 loss Texas would absolutely get in over 1 loss Indiana even though Texas has 1 more loss and also zero quality wins.

Anyone who thinks the name of the jersey isn't gonna take some control in a situation like this is delusional. What matchup is gonna draw more eyes? Say Texas is the 11 seed. Penn State vs Texas or Penn State vs Indiana? Not even a debate.
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I am one that definitely thinks names on jerseys have influence even if it is unintentional. If the second Texas loss is to A&M, Then neither Texas or Indiana would have a win over a ranked opponent. But Penn State ain't going to have one either. What's the fourth option? I don't like any of those three. They've all feasted on mediocre/poor teams.
 
Thiefery said:
hey man just wanted to drop in and say... remember when people said the 12 team playoff was going to ruin all the suspense?? ahh the good ol days
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Great point. One of the reasons it is is because the B1G and the SEC went divisionless, and added some good teams (Texas and Oregon - the other 4 not so much at least for now). Applying 12 to past results, the top 12 was pretty easy to pick. And it still is for the B1G who has 3, maybe 4 really good teams and then not much else. Totally different for the SEC where we could have 6 or 7 two loss teams.

That said I stick with what I said before ... the no. 13 doesn't have anything to bitch about. Lose fewer games. And that goes for my team.

If this is exciting as we think it will be, you can count on a 14 team format in 2026. The 14 team format gives you 6 first round home games.
 
Deep Creek said:
I am one that definitely thinks names on jerseys have influence even if it is unintentional. If the second Texas loss is to A&M, Then neither Texas or Indiana would have a win over a ranked opponent. But Penn State ain't going to have one either. What's the fourth option? I don't like any of those three. They've all feasted on mediocre/poor teams.
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you can't penalize Texas for their schedule.. wasn't like they scheduled OOC FCS schools.. They have beaten the teams they were supposed to in good fashion. They flat out got beat at home to UGA, and yes the Vanderbilt game was close (sloppy sloppy play) but Vandy never had the ball with the chance to tie or take the lead.

If they beat Arkansas by 2 scores.. maybe 3.. same at home next week vs KY.. how can you hold that against them. All I heard the past decade was how Texas was getting beat up by the little 12.. all of the sudden this season we are lucky to have the easiest of the easy SEC conference schedule?

I know the big game is against aggy in 3 weeks.. so as long as they take care of business this talk won't even matter. Just curious to know since we are running the same schedule for conference next season.. will people still say the same thing even with us traveling to Columbus?
 
Thiefery said:
you can't penalize Texas for their schedule.. wasn't like they scheduled OOC FCS schools.. They have beaten the teams they were supposed to in good fashion. They flat out got beat at home to UGA, and yes the Vanderbilt game was close (sloppy sloppy play) but Vandy never had the ball with the chance to tie or take the lead.

If they beat Arkansas by 2 scores.. maybe 3.. same at home next week vs KY.. how can you hold that against them. All I heard the past decade was how Texas was getting beat up by the little 12.. all of the sudden this season we are lucky to have the easiest of the easy SEC conference schedule?

I know the big game is against aggy in 3 weeks.. so as long as they take care of business this talk won't even matter. Just curious to know since we are running the same schedule for conference next season.. will people still say the same thing even with us traveling to Columbus?
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Texas won't be penalized for their schedule. Other teams will benefit from their schedule.

Unfortunately for Texas, it's a 0 sum game.
 
Thiefery said:
you can't penalize Texas for their schedule.. wasn't like they scheduled OOC FCS schools.. They have beaten the teams they were supposed to in good fashion. They flat out got beat at home to UGA, and yes the Vanderbilt game was close (sloppy sloppy play) but Vandy never had the ball with the chance to tie or take the lead.

If they beat Arkansas by 2 scores.. maybe 3.. same at home next week vs KY.. how can you hold that against them. All I heard the past decade was how Texas was getting beat up by the little 12.. all of the sudden this season we are lucky to have the easiest of the easy SEC conference schedule?

I know the big game is against aggy in 3 weeks.. so as long as they take care of business this talk won't even matter. Just curious to know since we are running the same schedule for conference next season.. will people still say the same thing even with us traveling to Columbus?
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I won't say you should be penalized for it, but I will say it will not benefit you when compared to other teams with similar records. It's not your fault the SEC gave you an easy schedule. But, if you have an easy schedule you better win the games or it will be held against you in comparisons. You've only lost one game. Win the rest and it won't matter. Lose another and now you have a problem - lose to Arky and that's a bad loss and a good loss, with one good win. Lose to ATM, and you have 2 good losses with no good wins. Either way, that won't look good compared to other 2 loss teams who have better wins.

Next year you will get the benefit of playing tOSU, and then you play @UGA. If you lose both, you will be in trouble with few if any good wins unless some of those SEC teams are better.

Look I was glad to get TX and OU, I love the divisionless football, and I hope at some point we go to 9 IC games. But the SEC simply has to do a better job scheduling. It's absurd to have such a disparity between teams like you guys and then UF and OU. That simply should not have happened.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
You could be right about Texas, but IU has other 2 loss teams they have to get past. Unless we are saying that a 1 loss team is automatically better than a 2 loss team.
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I think they made a hell of a statement with the rankings having Indiana at 5th. Unless they absolutely sink them if they lose to OSU, I can't see them being left out at this point.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
If OSU loses to Indiana and they don't fire Ryan Day when the final whistle sounds -- I will be shocked. Indiana is not that good at all. Michigan almost beat them and we are historically bad on offense.

Indiana had like 12 yards offense in the 2nd half against us and we were playing multiple backups in the secondary.
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Yeah I had to change the channel in the 2nd half, that was just overall ass football. I'll give Indiana the benefit of the doubt since they've been dominant in literally every other game this year (no team in the nation has been dominant in every game, to be fair), but yeah that was just an overall ugly game.

So assuming Davis isn't in the plans at michigan, what the hell are you guys gonna do if you can't get Underwood?
 
Across The Field said:
I think they made a hell of a statement with the rankings having Indiana at 5th. Unless they absolutely sink them if they lose to OSU, I can't see them being left out at this point.
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Yup, this is what I told the Dawggies a couple days ago. Barring a complete meltdown, IU is in.
 
Thiefery said:
you can't penalize Texas for their schedule.. wasn't like they scheduled OOC FCS schools.. They have beaten the teams they were supposed to in good fashion. They flat out got beat at home to UGA, and yes the Vanderbilt game was close (sloppy sloppy play) but Vandy never had the ball with the chance to tie or take the lead.

If they beat Arkansas by 2 scores.. maybe 3.. same at home next week vs KY.. how can you hold that against them. All I heard the past decade was how Texas was getting beat up by the little 12.. all of the sudden this season we are lucky to have the easiest of the easy SEC conference schedule?

I know the big game is against aggy in 3 weeks.. so as long as they take care of business this talk won't even matter. Just curious to know since we are running the same schedule for conference next season.. will people still say the same thing even with us traveling to Columbus?
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WhosYourDawggy said:
I won't say you should be penalized for it, but I will say it will not benefit you when compared to other teams with similar records. It's not your fault the SEC gave you an easy schedule. But, if you have an easy schedule you better win the games or it will be held against you in comparisons. You've only lost one game. Win the rest and it won't matter. Lose another and now you have a problem - lose to Arky and that's a bad loss and a good loss, with one good win. Lose to ATM, and you have 2 good losses with no good wins. Either way, that won't look good compared to other 2 loss teams who have better wins.

Next year you will get the benefit of playing tOSU, and then you play @UGA. If you lose both, you will be in trouble with few if any good wins unless some of those SEC teams are better.

Look I was glad to get TX and OU, I love the divisionless football, and I hope at some point we go to 9 IC games. But the SEC simply has to do a better job scheduling. It's absurd to have such a disparity between teams like you guys and then UF and OU. That simply should not have happened.
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Lol @ The SEC teams ever giving up that free extra win.
 
Thiefery said:
you can't penalize Texas for their schedule.. wasn't like they scheduled OOC FCS schools.. They have beaten the teams they were supposed to in good fashion. They flat out got beat at home to UGA, and yes the Vanderbilt game was close (sloppy sloppy play) but Vandy never had the ball with the chance to tie or take the lead.

If they beat Arkansas by 2 scores.. maybe 3.. same at home next week vs KY.. how can you hold that against them. All I heard the past decade was how Texas was getting beat up by the little 12.. all of the sudden this season we are lucky to have the easiest of the easy SEC conference schedule?

I know the big game is against aggy in 3 weeks.. so as long as they take care of business this talk won't even matter. Just curious to know since we are running the same schedule for conference next season.. will people still say the same thing even with us traveling to Columbus?
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I can but I don't matter. The committee doesn't seem to be concerned about schedule difficulty. Otherwise you wouldn't be rated where you are. SOS is either used as a criteria or it isn't. And from what the CFP committee has shown us, they use it in certain situations and don't in others. It doesn't seem to be impacting the CFP ranking of Texas, Indiana or Miaimi. I just want the committee to send a message that encourages good OOC scheduling...at least to a certain extent.

But let's be real. When the season starts, (or even way before that time in regards to OOC scheduling) teams can only control how they play against the teams assigned by the conference (which they don't have much control over) and their OOC opponents (which they have 100% control over).. But if SOS is going to be a metric, at the end of the season, teams are somewhat at the mercy of how their well or poorly their opponents performed that season.

In your case, your rival up north and the skunkweasels screwed your SOS. You guys at least made the effort by scheduling Michigan OOC. Aggie being as good as they this year should help your schedule a hell of a lot more than OU or Michigan.

Miami gets some of the same credit for scheduling Florida. They didn't know they'd be playing a Florida team that was a shadow of its former self.

Penn State scheduled West Virginia which may not be the same as Michigan or Florida, but still not bad.

It looks like Indiana did not make an effort to upgrade their OOC. It was reported they even paid $1million to get out of a home and home with Louisville which would have improved things some because I think they'd have beaten Louisville.

Good thing is all will get to validate the committee's placement.
 
Across The Field said:
I think they made a hell of a statement with the rankings having Indiana at 5th. Unless they absolutely sink them if they lose to OSU, I can't see them being left out at this point.
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100% corrrect. Looks like the committee doesn't value current SOS except maybe as a tie breaker among teams they can't differentiate.
 
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