Fuck the recruiting thread, this deserves its own. #1 player in the nation QB Bryce Underwood flipping to Michigan!

I think the main problem with this situation is the kid would not had even pondered playing for Moore and staff without that 12 mil or whatever being dangled. If things don’t go well out of the gate he will be gone to somewhere else quick.
 
Across The Field said:
Strongly agree here. That mentality has cost OSU some recruits recently (Mathis in this class, Justin Scott last year come to mind), but I'm fine with that. Spend most of the NIL on already established players unless you have a truly can't miss prospect (JJ Smith, for example).
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Once you give a insane amount to 1 HS player it sets a precedent for you. Everyone else you try to lure in is gonna want a big check too.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Once you give an insane amount to 1 HS player it sets a precedent for you. Everyone else you try to lure in is gonna want a big check too.
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But it doesn’t do so for just Michigan. Though, the rumored $10 million seems to be false. Seems like it was still only a few million with LSU only offering $1.5. That said, with no cap it changes the market moving forward for all teams.

We’re currently in a bit of an unregulated arms race.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
But it doesn’t do so for just Michigan. Though, the rumored $10 million seems to be false. Seems like it was still only a few million with LSU only offering $1.5. That said, with no cap it changes the market moving forward for all teams.

We’re currently in a bit of an unregulated arms race.
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Regardless I think giving a bunch of money to unproven HS kids is a bad idea. It might work it might not. I don't even get upset when Ohio State loses a recruit because some other (usually lower caliber like Miami or Colorado) school offers them a big bag. WIth the transfer portal now HS recruiting doesnt mean as much as it once did, you still have to do it well enough but it's not the end all like it used to be. I'd rather get a group of HS kids that mostly actually want to be there, maybe throw some money at a few higher level guys, but other than that work with the NIL with the transfer portal to fill the gaps.
 
fordman84 said:
I haven't read the entire string, but do you think the majority of the top football recruits are caring about if their CHEM 101 and 201 credits transfer?
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The guys Michigan goes after do. There is zero chance Michigan will ever sign guys where their life is only football.

Go look at every 5 star guy Michigan has signed (outside Bryce Underwood, who I have no idea of his grades). Every single one of them are honor roll kids in HS and have parents that stress academics. Those are the top football guys UM gets. We don't get the 'I didn't come to play school' players.

That is why UM doesn't sign a ton of 5 star kids. As a fan, I WANT UM to be a football factory - I don't care about their grades. The administration does though.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
The guys Michigan goes after do. There is zero chance Michigan will ever sign guys where their life is only football.

Go look at every 5 star guy Michigan has signed (outside Bryce Underwood, who I have no idea of his grades). Every single one of them are honor roll kids in HS and have parents that stress academics. Those are the top football guys UM gets. We don't get the 'I didn't come to play school' players.

That is why UM doesn't sign a ton of 5 star kids. As a fan, I WANT UM to be a football factory - I don't care about their grades. The administration does though.
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Give up the act my dude. Y'all had Rashan Gary who's as dumb as a box of rocks. I believe that very few 5* football recruits HS academic "success" is 100% legit.
 
Across The Field said:
I feel like the majority of college kids after year 1 or 2 has likely taken nearly all core classes and not major classes though, so that shouldn't be a major issue. Like you said, you guys were late to the NIL party so we'll see how things are looking forward now that you seem to be catching up. I think the much, much larger problem is your coaching staff though.
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I don't know the % of core classes they will accept or how many credit hours need to be from the university to be allowed to graduate from UM.
Whatever it is -- it does absolutely no help to, not just the football team, but the basketball team too. The amount of players each have lost out on because of our administration rules is ridiculous. That's why I have always said UM administration was stuck in the dark ages with a stick up their ass, thinking they are better than everyone else.
I'm praying if this NIL deal is legit that they have opened the purse strings and going forward UM will be able to recruit with the top programs, instead of relying solely on building up players and developing them.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Regardless I think giving a bunch of money to unproven HS kids is a bad idea. It might work it might not. I don't even get upset when Ohio State loses a recruit because some other (usually lower caliber like Miami or Colorado) school offers them a big bag. WIth the transfer portal now HS recruiting doesnt mean as much as it once did, you still have to do it well enough but it's not the end all like it used to be. I'd rather get a group of HS kids that mostly actually want to be there, maybe throw some money at a few higher level guys, but other than that work with the NIL with the transfer portal to fill the gaps.
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I don't think there's another option at this point? Michigan tried the other approach and failed to crack the top 10 in recruiting while winning 3 straight B10 titles and winning a national title. If you rely entirely on the portal, you're going to fluctuate depending on the talent that's even available on the portal, let alone the ones you can get to commit.
 
huskers1217 said:
Well. Once we beat Iowa and wisky. We will be back there. Have fun in the guaranteed rate bowl
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Personally I hope we miss a bowl game this year. Though the extra practices would be nice. Anything outside the CFP is such a disaster for teams. Players sitting out - coaches putting in guys just to get them experience.

Even if you get a good matchup -- the two teams end up looking nothing like the teams they were in the regular season
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I don't think there's another option at this point? Michigan tried the other approach and failed to crack the top 10 in recruiting while winning 3 straight B10 titles and winning a national title. If you rely entirely on the portal, you're going to fluctuate depending on the talent that's even available on the portal, let alone the ones you can get to commit.
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It's not relying entirely on the portal, you have to find a balance.

I don't care how much money these people have, I'd bet good money of my own they aren't forking over a ton for any more HS players, at least not until they see how this works out. They are projected to flip a few more guys as result of this but it's nobody landscape changing. A decent WR, a decent LB and a low 4* CB, you are gonna see more of that then anymore elite level recruits. Those kind of guys work fine though as long as they stick around the whole time and if you can supplement well in the portal.

The best plan like I said is putting together a pretty good recruiting class of HS players (top 10ish), maybe opening the bag for 1 or 2 elite ones and then focusing most NIL money toward filling gaps in the portal. I prefer this to shoveling out a bunch of money to mid recruits to keep them from the Colorado Miami and FSU's of the world.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I think the main problem with this situation is the kid would not had even pondered playing for Moore and staff without that 12 mil or whatever being dangled. If things don’t go well out of the gate he will be gone to somewhere else quick.
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I'm not sure that is necessarily true. He grew up a michigan fan, I think he just liked LSU. I don't think that means he didn't like Michigan.

I also think the fact that Brian Kelly is about to get fired probably helped our case.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I'm not sure that is necessarily true. He grew up a michigan fan, I think he just liked LSU. I don't think that means he didn't like Michigan.

I also think the fact that Brian Kelly is about to get fired probably helped our case.
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I would not want to play for Brian Kelly anyway, would you? lol

I thought there were reports he wanted out of Michigan though? Regardless reading the Michigan boards the amount of them acting like Moore had anything at all to do with this is hilarious. They gave him enough money that he couldn't say no, which is fine thats the game now but call it what it is.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I would not want to play for Brian Kelly anyway, would you? lol

I thought there were reports he wanted out of Michigan though? Regardless reading the Michigan boards the amount of them acting like Moore had anything at all to do with this is hilarious. They gave him enough money that he couldn't say no, which is fine thats the game now but call it what it is.
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I think if it was simply about money the deal would have been done a while ago. From the sound of it, he spent a lot of time secretly visiting michigan over the past couple months to get more familiar with the team and staff. I really think it was more about the fact that WE had an entirely new staff than it was simply about the money
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I think if it was simply about money the deal would have been done a while ago. From the sound of it, he spent a lot of time secretly visiting michigan over the past couple months to get more familiar with the team and staff. I really think it was more about the fact that WE had an entirely new staff than it was simply about the money
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lol come on man. It was 100% about the money. They offered enough money that nobody would say no. Michigan at least had to outbid LSU and they went way over what LSU was offering. That = all about the money
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
That wasn’t my suggestion, only that it’s part of a future line he’ll be behind.
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You'd rather have a 5*, no. 1 ranked QB, than not. But, of all positions, QB is the one you can work around. We won B2B natties with a 32 year old, PWO midget.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I think if it was simply about money the deal would have been done a while ago. From the sound of it, he spent a lot of time secretly visiting michigan over the past couple months to get more familiar with the team and staff. I really think it was more about the fact that WE had an entirely new staff than it was simply about the money
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I'm thinking it was about the money and as much if not more about not wanting to play for Brian Kelly. Dude just isn't a fit at LSU.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I'm thinking it was about the money and as much if not more about not wanting to play for Brian Kelly. Dude just isn't a fit at LSU.
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Kelly definitely doesn't help LSU's cause. But acting like the kid who got thrown the biggest bag we publicly know about didn't go there for the money is just hilarious ignorance.
 
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