The entire playoff committee needs to be drawn & disemboweled

osubuckeye89 said:
I wonder who the first Uconn is going to be. Remember when they got the Big East BCS bid at 8-4?
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I made a reference like that the other day, and I'm not sure it could happen without divisions. Sure you could have a P4 where the 1st place team is undefeated and the second place is 8-4, but seems unlikely. Much more likely a division is weak but the winner of it is 8-4.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Here's the rub with that argument ... more often than not, when push comes to shove, the SEC teams back it up. Sure, we lose some games. But at the end of the day, by any metric, the SEC teams back it up on the field. NCs, bowl wins, records against other conferences, etc. And don't come back with Vandy/GaState, Arky/OkieState, LSU/USC, etc., I get it. I do not say the SEC cellar dwellers would win the B1G, or all our teams are great, etc. I am just saying that when we play each other, we generally play better teams across the board, and the metrics show that. And, for the most part, we play aggressive OOC, with some cupcakes thrown in like all schools do (look at your own school before coming at me with cupcakes), and do well.
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@Knight&Day - you said, Really? You disagree? The post I responded to said that the SEC's SOS is inflated. I said that more often than not, the SEC teams hold their own. Do you now think it has more better teams? I am open to be shown that's not true.
 
fordman84 said:
I made a reference like that the other day, and I'm not sure it could happen without divisions. Sure you could have a P4 where the 1st place team is undefeated and the second place is 8-4, but seems unlikely. Much more likely a division is weak but the winner of it is 8-4.
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I could see a year in the future where the 2nd team in the Big 12 or ACC title game is a 4 loss team.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
@Knight&Day - you said, Really? You disagree? The post I responded to said that the SEC's SOS is inflated. I said that more often than not, the SEC teams hold their own. Do you now think it has more better teams? I am open to be shown that's not true.
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My main beef isn't with the SEC itself but with these ridiculous metric systems that think Auburn is a borderline top 25 team.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I could see a year in the future where the 2nd team in the Big 12 or ACC title game is a 4 loss team.
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Esp when you've got a team like Clemson with tougher OOC scheduling.

losing to UGA and SC in ooc play, then dropping a couple acc games doesn't seem farfetched at all
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Esp when you've got a team like Clemson with tougher OOC scheduling.

losing to UGA and SC in ooc play, then dropping a couple acc games doesn't seem farfetched at all
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Even without that route, both leagues are so mediocre overall at the moment that it's completely logical that 1 team comes out undefeated or with 1 loss and everyone else cannibalizes each other to the point where the next best is 8-4
 
fordman84 said:
But the CFP has them 25. Someone the other day was bitching about the SEC having mizzou at 23 in the CFP rankings "to help SOS" but they ignored my request to explain Illinois at 25 then.
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Illinois is good, Mizzou isn't? :noidea:
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I wonder who the first Uconn is going to be. Remember when they got the Big East BCS bid at 8-4?
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I think the first CFP to do something similar was TCU...thanks to the committee and Michigan. They didn't even win their CCG. Going to be interesting to see see what they do this year with some CCG losers.
 
Both Illinois and Missouri are appropriately rated IMO. You can say that they aren't good but who would you put in ahead of them? You'd have an argument for a team like Kansas State but it's not egregious.
 
Deep Creek said:
I think the first CFP to do something similar was TCU...thanks to the committee and Michigan. They didn't even win their CCG. Going to be interesting to see see what they do this year with some CCG losers.
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2017 and 2021 included a non-champ as well.
 
Deep Creek said:
I think the first CFP to do something similar was TCU...thanks to the committee and Michigan. They didn't even win their CCG. Going to be interesting to see see what they do this year with some CCG losers.
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Eh TCU still was a 12-1 team though. They weren't a 8-4 team limping in because they happened to win a conference having a extremely weak year.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Eh TCU still was a 12-1 team though. They weren't a 8-4 team limping in because they happened to win a conference having a extremely weak year.
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True. But they were still leaking oil coming into the home stretch that year. They were similar to Florida State last year.

They got lucky because they matched up well against a Michigan type.
 
Deep Creek said:
True. But they were still leaking oil coming into the home stretch that year. They were similar to Florida State last year.

They got lucky because they matched up well against a Michigan type.
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True but i'd still rather see a 1 or 2 loss non champ than some 8-4 team that was leaking oil all season but stumbled in due to a weak ass conference.

College Football fan is way to wired into the conference championship thing though for them to ever get rid of the auto bids.
 
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Deep Creek said:
True but Bama didn't play in their CCG that year. I may be wrong but I think TCU is the only CCG runner up that got in.
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Oklahoma lost the Big 12 title game in 2003 (and badly 35-7) but still got into the BCS title game, that's the closest thing.
 
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