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fishinabarrel said:
I wouldn't say all. Definitely think more pressure is on Ohio State but Moore has to be feeling a little heat for how bad this season has gone and he should understand that a competitive game/win gets him a longer leash. He gets blown out and he might not be there next season
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Honestly, I think the Bryce Underwood thing bought him another year right there. So I think he now has at least 3 years no matter what.
 
Hey Clemson:

Eh...you know....
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Honestly, I think the Bryce Underwood thing bought him another year right there. So I think he now has at least 3 years no matter what.
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I was actually thinking the opposite. Moore is clearly not the reason Underwood committed, but he could be the reason why he transfers after a year if the offense is still pathetically bad. If michigan goes out and totally lays an egg like 2010/2015, there could be some push from the suddenly present wealthy michigan boosters to overhaul everything, especially if the NCAA comes back and it's ugly.
 
fishinabarrel said:
I wouldn't say all. Definitely think more pressure is on Ohio State but Moore has to be feeling a little heat for how bad this season has gone and he should understand that a competitive game/win gets him a longer leash. He gets blown out and he might not be there next season
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He obviously didn't execute the khaki pants, cheeseburger, sleepover procedure correctly.
 
Across The Field said:
I was actually thinking the opposite. Moore is clearly not the reason Underwood committed, but he could be the reason why he transfers after a year if the offense is still pathetically bad. If michigan goes out and totally lays an egg like 2010/2015, there could be some push from the suddenly present wealthy michigan boosters to overhaul everything, especially if the NCAA comes back and it's ugly.
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I think that's incredibly unlikely. Again, maybe I'm being naive but I think this year was worst case scenario in terms of performance and we still managed to struggle through 6 wins with a walk on QB and no WRs.

Of course, Michigan still has to hit the portal hard but I don't even think money would make Underwood come here if he wasn't comfortable with the development and promises made.
 
Hu War Yu said:
Hey Clemson:

Eh...you know....
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MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I think that's incredibly unlikely. Again, maybe I'm being naive but I think this year was worst case scenario in terms of performance and we still managed to struggle through 6 wins with a walk on QB and no WRs.

Of course, Michigan still has to hit the portal hard but I don't even think money would make Underwood come here if he wasn't comfortable with the development and promises made.
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I'm not sure I'd call it the worst case scenario. The losses weren't particularly close outside of Indiana but USC, Minnesota, and Michigan State could have all easily been losses. Hell they had to change a rule because Minnesota got screwed so bad at the end. 3-9 was a very real possibility this year but a few things went your way when they needed to.

I'm not sure what you are seeing right now that would make you think a QB would be going there for development. Moore is clearly not a developer of skill position talent, and I'm not sure what any of the other offensive coaches are even going. I know michigan fans keep trying to minimize it but Underwood got a massive bag. Objectively speaking there is simply not an alternative reason to go to michigan with this staff and that talent level.
 
Across The Field said:
I'm not sure I'd call it the worst case scenario. The losses weren't particularly close outside of Indiana but USC, Minnesota, and Michigan State could have all easily been losses. Hell they had to change a rule because Minnesota got screwed so bad at the end. 3-9 was a very real possibility this year but a few things went your way when they needed to.

I'm not sure what you are seeing right now that would make you think a QB would be going there for development. Moore is clearly not a developer of skill position talent, and I'm not sure what any of the other offensive coaches are even going. I know michigan fans keep trying to minimize it but Underwood got a massive bag. Objectively speaking there is simply not an alternative reason to go to michigan with this staff and that talent level.
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Michigan was fucking around with our QB position for over half the season. That probably cost us both the Washington and Illinois games. We really don't know about Moore as a developer. We certainly got lucky with USC and Minnesota got luckier earlier in that game and shouldn't have even been in position to get screwed by the call, but irrelevant to the fact that had they not called that penalty it still should have been Michigan's ball.

Record wise, sure we could have lost more games as well but in terms of the actual product on the field I think this is about as bad as it gets. But next year our schedule, on paper, is easier. So even if the team doesn't improve, I think the record is likely to improve next year just because of the schedule. As I see it:

Home
New Mexico - W
CMU - W
Purdue - W
Washington - Toss up but lean W
Wisconsin - Toss up but lean W
Ohio State - Lean L

Away
Oklahoma - Toss up lean L
Maryland - W
MSU - W
Nebraska - Toss up but lean L
Northwestern - W
USC - Toss up but lean W

So on paper, I thin 9-3 is super attainable next year with 6-6 being kind of a worst case again.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Michigan was fucking around with our QB position for over half the season. That probably cost us both the Washington and Illinois games. We really don't know about Moore as a developer. We certainly got lucky with USC and Minnesota got luckier earlier in that game and shouldn't have even been in position to get screwed by the call, but irrelevant to the fact that had they not called that penalty it still should have been Michigan's ball.

Record wise, sure we could have lost more games as well but in terms of the actual product on the field I think this is about as bad as it gets. But next year our schedule, on paper, is easier. So even if the team doesn't improve, I think the record is likely to improve next year just because of the schedule. As I see it:

Home
New Mexico - W
CMU - W
Purdue - W
Washington - Toss up but lean W
Wisconsin - Toss up but lean W
Ohio State - Lean L

Away
Oklahoma - Toss up lean L
Maryland - W
MSU - W
Nebraska - Toss up but lean L
Northwestern - W
USC - Toss up but lean W

So on paper, I thin 9-3 is super attainable next year with 6-6 being kind of a worst case again.
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Michigan's season next year really depends on how well they can do in the transfer portal. Depth is going to really be shot after this year they are going to have to bring in a decent sized good group of guys to be competitive.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
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I'm pretty confident we win but I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed because I don't think it's gonna be the blowout we want.

I think this game will be more 2009 than 2008 (42-7) when we only beat Rich Rod 21-10 in his 2nd year in a ugly ass game.

We just start too slow and Michigan is a team that can just gut the clock, i'm assuming that's going to be Michigan's strategy to try to bleed the clock as much as possible to try to get to the 4th quarter with a close game.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Michigan's season next year really depends on how well they can do in the transfer portal. Depth is going to really be shot after this year they are going to have to bring in a decent sized good group of guys to be competitive.
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The only place I’m concerned about replacing players is defensive line. If they bring in a couple WRs, a couple offensive lineman and maybe a DT or De we should be totally fine.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'm pretty confident we win but I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed because I don't think it's gonna be the blowout we want.

I think this game will be more 2009 than 2008 (42-7) when we only beat Rich Rod 21-10 in his 2nd year in a ugly ass game.

We just start too slow and Michigan is a team that can just gut the clock, i'm assuming that's going to be Michigan's strategy to try to bleed the clock as much as possible to try to get to the 4th quarter with a close game.
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I’ll be a lot more confident if Will Johnson actually plays. It all depends if we can get some functional offense or not. I’m not sure Ohio state is going to be fooled consistently by the WR screen like Northwestern was.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I’ll be a lot more confident if Will Johnson actually plays. It all depends if we can get some functional offense or not. I’m not sure Ohio state is going to be fooled consistently by the WR screen like Northwestern was.
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I really don't think Michigan is going to be able to drive the field against us for the most part. We just need to not make stupid mistakes that open comical running lanes for easy long TD runs like USC and Minnesota did.

Our offense is too inconsistent at times though, if Day goes into his stupid run run run shell with some awful screens sprinkled in this game will be way closer than it should be. There's no reason we should not attack your secondary early and often with our WRs.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Michigan was fucking around with our QB position for over half the season. That probably cost us both the Washington and Illinois games. We really don't know about Moore as a developer. We certainly got lucky with USC and Minnesota got luckier earlier in that game and shouldn't have even been in position to get screwed by the call, but irrelevant to the fact that had they not called that penalty it still should have been Michigan's ball.

Record wise, sure we could have lost more games as well but in terms of the actual product on the field I think this is about as bad as it gets. But next year our schedule, on paper, is easier. So even if the team doesn't improve, I think the record is likely to improve next year just because of the schedule. As I see it:

Home
New Mexico - W
CMU - W
Purdue - W
Washington - Toss up but lean W
Wisconsin - Toss up but lean W
Ohio State - Lean L

Away
Oklahoma - Toss up lean L
Maryland - W
MSU - W
Nebraska - Toss up but lean L
Northwestern - W
USC - Toss up but lean W

So on paper, I thin 9-3 is super attainable next year with 6-6 being kind of a worst case again.
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You guys thought 9-3 was realistic this year, too, and you're losing practically every good player on the roster after this season. From the coaching we've seen this year, I have no idea where you get the notion you're gonna beat Washington, Wisconsin, Maryland, MSU, or USC. I think Moore's ceiling is probably Hoke if things go right, but they're clearly not.

You also act like michigan is some portal wizard that you can just simply say "well if we just get some WRs, some DTs, and a QB we'll be good" as if that's just a given with this staff.

Finally, I wouldn't assume you're out of the woods with postseason bans of 1-2 years.
 
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