More Michigan Cheating

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Probably true, but mostly because there is no other option.
Sure there is. In 1962, Ohio State wouldn't let him take the team to the Rose Bowl even though they qualified.

He could just refuse to go to the playoffs if they lost to Michigan.

1962: There were faculty members who thought the emphasis on football was damaging the academic reputation of the school. The Alumni president lobbied against going because OSU had already defeated the PAC-8 champion UCLA during the regular season.

At a banquet, Hayes confronted the Alumni president with a vicious profanity laden tirade that ended with Hayes punching him in the stomach.

The man loved winning more than anything and if his Buckeyes won a playoff, the previous games would have meant little to him.
 
So your crying and stomping your feet in this thread is just sour grapes because someone was more popular? Could have saved hundreds of pages if you said that from the beginning.
Dates back to Ohio State being sent to the Rose bowl over Michigan, some year a while ago that I don't feel like googling.
 
Michigan assistant coach - “You’re not using this kid in your signal organization stupid thing, so, like, just have him be a manager.”

Michigan - "Our staff didn't know what Stalions was doing."

These are contradictory statements.

NCAA gets to determine who is telling the truth.
@MAIZEandBLUE09 - I must have missed your response on this one.
 
I already clarified this for you back then:

What I was asking for was not a screen grab of the video you posted, but a longer video showing more than a blip of blue light.
That’s neat and all, but what I stated was still correct:

Ohh what the hell, let’s get this bitch to 3hundo.

Hey @MAIZEandBLUE09 remember when you called this a screen grab and said the little blue light on the glasses was a scoreboard reflection? :pound:



Show me video of a blue flashy thing and not a screen grab. This is called confirmation bias. You want something to be true so you went looking for a way to make it. No, he wasn't wearing recording sunglasses.

Again, was this your way of apologizing?
 
@MAIZEandBLUE09 - I must have missed your response on this one.
Sign stealing is legal. Michigan hired stallions to be a sign stealer on staff. That was literally his very legal job within the program that every other school has. I think people are assuming that because people mention sign stealing that it means they knew about any illegal methods used to collect that data.
 
That’s neat and all, but what I stated was still correct:





Again, was this your way of apologizing?
No, that's me asking for a video of the light constantly being on and not just a single frame that was screen grabbed from your video.
 
Dates back to Ohio State being sent to the Rose bowl over Michigan, some year a while ago that I don't feel like googling.
1973 - game at Michigan ended in a 10-10 tie. Michigan's QB separated his shoulder.

The B1G AD's voted to send Ohio State. There was some controversy over whether the MSU AD cast the deciding vote.

Buckeyes went and won. The conference had lost 4 in a row previously, including OSU losing the year before.
 
Sign stealing is legal. Michigan hired stallions to be a sign stealer on staff. That was literally his very legal job within the program that every other school has. I think people are assuming that because people mention sign stealing that it means they knew about any illegal methods used to collect that data.
The kid told the coach that Stalions wanted him to go record Georgia's signals. The kid didn't want to and told the coach. The coach told Stalions not to include the kid.

You are being intentionally obtuse here.
 
The kid told the coach that Stalions wanted him to go record Georgia's signals. The kid didn't want to and told the coach. The coach told Stalions not to include the kid.

You are being intentionally obtuse here.
Right, but you seem to have skipped over this part:
Another low-level Michigan staff member raised concerns about Stalions’ sign-stealing system and refused to be a part of it when Stalions wanted him to rent a car to scout a football game at Georgia — a team Michigan could have eventually played in the playoff but a team not on the program’s schedule, making it permissible to scout them, according to UM’s response.
It's clear that at least Patridge was aware that he was scooting the line. But that's about it.
 
Dates back to Ohio State being sent to the Rose bowl over Michigan, some year a while ago that I don't feel like googling.
Cool, I don't feel like reading about it.
 
Right, but you seem to have skipped over this part:

It's clear that at least Patridge was aware that he was scooting the line. But that's about it.
Yeah, let's go with that.

🙄
 
You think Woody would have changed his opinion because of a playoff?
I think once CFB went national he may placed less emphasis on THE game. However he would have still made it a priority.

Do you think Howard is ok with cheating now? He sure was not when Buckeyes got tattoos.
 
Ohio State was always on the better side of that popularity content though, it worked in their favor not against them. Michigan and Bo actually coined the "mythical national title" concept because of this. I don't think it would have changed his opinion on the need to beat Michigan. Ohio State is living evidence of what a hollow national title feels like.
Sorry doesnt feel hollow at all. Did you see all that celebrating? THE is once again first, first for the 4 team playoff, first for the 12, first in win %. Just lots of great stuff, not a bit of hollow. Only the sour little brother fans are feeling hollow.
 
Sign stealing is legal. Michigan hired stallions to be a sign stealer on staff. That was literally his very legal job within the program that every other school has. I think people are assuming that because people mention sign stealing that it means they knew about any illegal methods used to collect that data.
Actually, it is sign decoding. Signs that were simplistic, delivered in a conventional manner, and out in the open for the public to see. Therefore it becomes legal, and is not protected from people decoding it. Stealing would include a printed playbook or protected cyber files.

Normally we would use a term like “stealing” for simplistic sake, but then riles up those that have Michigan Derangement Syndrome. I am not perfect, I have ohio state Derangement Syndrome. Because Michigan beat ohio state in ohio state’s championship year, it only took two session with my on-call Psychologist to restore normalcy.
 
Those 6 are all related to other things though. Deleting text messages, not cooperating with the NCAA, ect. I have yet to see the NCAA categorization of those in-person scouting violations.

And reminder, Hart was fired for drunk driving.
"Drunk driving". Sure. Weird I cannot find a single thing online that corroborates that, but sure.

My guy, those 6 are all pertaining to violations stemming from the in person scouting. See if michigan had come clean well before the fall of 2023 this would be long over and the punishment would have been minimal. Everyone seems to understand this but you. Even chesty twitter thot understands.
 
Sorry doesnt feel hollow at all. Did you see all that celebrating? THE is once again first, first for the 4 team playoff, first for the 12, first in win %. Just lots of great stuff, not a bit of hollow. Only the sour little brother fans are feeling hollow.
We just saw the most impressive 4-game run in college football history. Not only that, we lost minimal players to the portal and had two key defensive players come back rather than declare for the title. Hell, the Buckeye men's team pulled off a wild upset at top-10 Purdue and the women got a huge win over top-10 Maryland. It's never been a better time to be a Buckeye.
 
Michigan themselves confirm that all of this came from within the University

Meanwhile Michigan's clown insiders continue to play their retarded audience like a fiddle


That is from 2023.
 
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