More Michigan Cheating

[fishinabarrel]

You don’t have to change the playbooks, and two people sending in different signals … the other teams won’t have enough time to decide the real or the fake signs.

If they know the signs? It would literally take one play to figure that out. "Hey they have two different people holding up signs. They ran this play. Ok he is the real one"

Such supreme trickery

 

[Voltaire]

If they know the signs? It would literally take one play to figure that out. "Hey they have two different people holding up signs. They ran this play. Ok he is the real one"

Such supreme trickery

So, basically what you are saying:

(1) The signs are so simple that anyone can decode the signs
(2) The players and coaches are so dumb that they can not adjust to new signals (not new play, but new signals)
(3) The coaches are so dumb that they can not shield the signals

I am not claiming Michigan's innocence, I am just questioning your judgement of the intelligence of the players and coaches.

 

[fishinabarrel]

So, basically what you are saying:

(1) The signs are so simple that anyone can decode the signs
(2) The players and coaches are so dumb that they can not adjust to new signals (not new play, but new signals)
(3) The coaches are so dumb that they can not shield the signals

I am not claiming Michigan's innocence, I am just questioning your judgement of the intelligence of the players and coaches.

No all I said was your "solution" was idiotic

 

[cwerph]

I think they haven't handed out the punishment for those staff.

My big fear is they will throw the book at Harbaugh and just fine Michigan. That would be an awful outcome.

 

[cwerph]

We should have an elimination pool on which will be the next season where the HC at Michigan isn't suspended by the University, Big 10 or NCAA.

Given how dirty that program is, it could be a while.

 

[Red_Alert]

So, basically what you are saying:

(1) The signs are so simple that anyone can decode the signs
(2) The players and coaches are so dumb that they can not adjust to new signals (not new play, but new signals)
(3) The coaches are so dumb that they can not shield the signals

I am not claiming Michigan's innocence, I am just questioning your judgement of the intelligence of the players and coaches.

If that is their only job, then yeah most people could decode signs during live action if they already knew the signs in advance.

It's why Michigan was going to future opponents games for the sole purpose of videoing their sidelines to later match up with that particular games film.

Some of the signs could certainly be garnered from tv footage, but I'd bet it's considerably leas than 1/3rd of them because the tv cameramen aren't always focused on the sidelines.

I think coaches only get 20 hours a week with players, so changing signs week-to-week is unrealistic. They should certainly be changing their signs year-to-year. Especially if facing an opponent that they'd played last season.

 

[Voltaire]

If that is their only job, then yeah most people could decode signs during live action if they already knew the signs in advance.

It's why Michigan was going to future opponents games for the sole purpose of videoing their sidelines to later match up with that particular games film.

Some of the signs could certainly be garnered from tv footage, but I'd bet it's considerably leas than 1/3rd of them because the tv cameramen aren't always focused on the sidelines.

I think coaches only get 20 hours a week with players, so changing signs week-to-week is unrealistic. They should certainly be changing their signs year-to-year. Especially if facing an opponent that they'd played last season.

If you have two people sending in signs ... the first sign dictates who signs are real for this play ... no difficult. Players are coming in from the sidelines bring the next play with them all the time. If the score was not in your favor when playing against Michigan ... you have yourself to blame. Give them a few more years, and they'll find something.

 

[Red_Alert]

If you have two people sending in signs ... the first sign dictates who signs are real for this play ... no difficult. Players are coming in from the sidelines bring the next play with them all the time. If the score was not in your favor when playing against Michigan ... you have yourself to blame. Give them a few more years, and they'll find something.

No need. The NCAA fixed the in-person scouting scheme by permitting helmet comms.

I imagine the NCAA is fairly pissed with someone thinking they're cute and devising an elaborate scheme to break the rules to give themselves an advantage.

 

[Voltaire]

No need. The NCAA fixed the in-person scouting scheme by permitting helmet comms.

About time … but if Michigan (or anyone else broke rules) they should be punished (fairly). A two year plus investigation for a minor violation with an easy and viable solution, is bullshit.

I imagine the NCAA is fairly pissed with someone thinking they're cute and devising an elaborate scheme to break the rules to give themselves an advantage.

 

[Brutus]

“Minor violation”

 

[Brutus]

Make Michigan play the entire season where they have to announce every play they call before the snap. Actually, they have to do that for like three seasons to make even.

 

[Voltaire]

Make Michigan play the entire season where they have to announce every play they call before the snap. Actually, they have to do that for like three seasons to make even.

Michigan would announce it in Navajo … ohio state would never figure it out anyway. They’ve already showed their inability to adapt to an easily solved situation.

 

[Red_Alert]

About time … but if Michigan (or anyone else broke rules) they should be punished (fairly). A two year plus investigation for a minor violation with an easy and viable solution, is bullshit.

Not sure why y'all call it a 'minor violation' when it was clearly breaking a specific by-law?
Add to that a failure to monitor, and being a repeat offender on probation.

 

[Voltaire]

Not sure why y'all call it a 'minor violation' when it was clearly breaking a specific by-law?
Add to that a failure to monitor, and being a repeat offender on probation.

In person scouting is pretty freakin’ minor … I couldn’t even believe it was a rule. If you signals are so simplistic that you could decode it … that makes it minor. No one has been able to justify major sanctions. If Michigan hacked into computers or was in possession of a play book … then you have real issues.

 

[Brutus]

Michigan would announce it in Navajo … ohio state would never figure it out anyway. They’ve already showed their inability to adapt to an easily solved situation.

I get it, lash out at others because the alternative is having to look into the mirror and face the fact that Michigan’s good seasons were a lie. A farce. Your beloved university a cheat.

I do feel bad for you fans, you guys didn’t do anything wrong. It was Jimmy whose seat was burning hot. Had to do something desperate and then he just fucks off to the NFL leaving the school to deal with the entire mess.


Very easy to spot the sham seasons:

 

[Red_Alert]

In person scouting is pretty freakin’ minor … I couldn’t even believe it was a rule. If you signals are so simplistic that you could decode it … that makes it minor. No one has been able to justify major sanctions. If Michigan hacked into computers or was in possession of a play book … then you have real issues.

If in-person scouting didn't provide a benefit, then Michigan wouldn't have done it.

If in-person scouting didn't provide a benefit, then it wouldn't have been an NCAA by-law.

 

[ralphiewvu]

In person scouting is pretty freakin’ minor … I couldn’t even believe it was a rule. If you signals are so simplistic that you could decode it … that makes it minor. No one has been able to justify major sanctions. If Michigan hacked into computers or was in possession of a play book … then you have real issues.

This isn't a serious fucking post.

 

[Voltaire]

If in-person scouting didn't provide a benefit, then Michigan wouldn't have done it.

If in-person scouting didn't provide a benefit, then it wouldn't have been an NCAA by-law.

Is there any other sport that doesn’t allow in person scouting?

 

[Voltaire]

I get it, lash out at others because the alternative is having to look into the mirror and face the fact that Michigan’s good seasons were a lie. A farce. Your beloved university a cheat.

I do feel bad for you fans, you guys didn’t do anything wrong. It was Jimmy whose seat was burning hot. Had to do something desperate and then he just fucks off to the NFL leaving the school to deal with the entire mess.


Very easy to spot the sham seasons:
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I know the records, and I don’t care about the coaches or players … I am a shameless homer for Michigan. However, this appears to be minor shit. When is it going to be adjudicated … is there some kind of statue of limitations?

 

[Voltaire]

This isn't a serious fucking post.

If you can’t add something to the thread … lay down and lick your leg.