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Deep Creek said:
Memphis and the PAC 12

"The Pac-12 has not announced plans for its next media rights deal, so it isn't yet clear how much that deal will pay to each school. Memphis received about $11 million from the AAC for the 2023-24 academic year, but Thamel reported that the Pac-12 likely will pay its schools less than that."

If this turns out to be true, then @wazzu31 is correct. Move wouldn't be for financial reasons. Sans reduced early payments, has any other team moved for lesser money?

I know, I know, SMU did and even had to fork out a chunk but they are an unusual situation.
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If they join the PAC for all sports sure. However that’s not exactly true if they join the PAC for football only. Memphis got $11 million for EVERYTHING in the latest payout the AAC announced. (Media money, units, CFP, other)

Joining the BE for all sports (the BE carries) would get them around $7 million for a full share of BE media money year 1. Now there is no guarantee year 1 is a full share and the BE would at worst need a prorata deal from their media partners to add Memphis. I don’t wish to ramble so let’s just say they get 6 million year 1.

Then they get cut in on the PAC deal at a 70% rate. Because it’s been estimated football makes up between 70-85% of this contract that Thamel stated was under 10 million per. I’m being conservative and saying 70% of 9 million is 6.3 million.

Adding the conservative BE share and conservative PAC share gets them over $1 million more in just media money alone compared to the most recent payout announcement without having the hellacious travel joining the PAC for all sports.

The move is not likely JUST for financial reasons. But they aren’t taking a loss likely on it ether splitting up football and the OS in different conferences. IMO it’s the best move for Memphis but I think it hinges on if the BE is down for it.
 
Deep Creek said:
I have been out of it then. I was under the impression Boise, Fresno, SDSU, CSU and Utah State were going to get a significant financial increase by moving to the PAC 12. No?
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MWC make about 4mil off media if they get more than 8 then they doubled and thats pretty significant comparatively. American makes like 7mil per school but I believe UTSA makes less at current since they were part of the realignment that came in but not sure if and when that changes. so the Pac deal would need to be more for it to be worth it. Sun Belt teams only make about 2.5mil each.
All of those deals were based on schools alignment from before the last realignment i believe. dont know when all the next contracts come up if some of those numbers will change. Is AAC worth the same without Houston, Cinci and UCF? is MW worth the same without Boise Fresno and SDSU?
 
OlyDuck said:
American makes like 7mil per school
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That Thamel article I posted said “Memphis received about $11 million from the AAC for the 2023-24 academic year.” That’s $4 million less than what you are saying. Don’t know where he’s getting his info but he published that amount.
 
Deep Creek said:
That Thamel article I posted said “Memphis received about $11 million from the AAC for the 2023-24 academic year.” That’s $4 million less than what you are saying. Don’t know where he’s getting his info but he published that amount.
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media vs total moneys
media is 7 per then you have the bowl monies which everyone gets some even those that dont make a bowl. but its uneven based on such. other post season appearances also contribute to the pot.
 
Canzano says no news expected in the next 24-48 hours so I would expect something in the next 24-48 hours
 
huskers1217 said:
If oregon went back. No one would miss them and the B1G wouldn’t lose any natties
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huskers1217 said:
If oregon went back. No one would miss them and the B1G wouldn’t lose any natties
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Oregon ran through the B1G winning like 7 conference championships including football and did win a national championship this year.
 
Deep Creek said:
Memphis and the PAC 12

"The Pac-12 has not announced plans for its next media rights deal, so it isn't yet clear how much that deal will pay to each school. Memphis received about $11 million from the AAC for the 2023-24 academic year, but Thamel reported that the Pac-12 likely will pay its schools less than that."

If this turns out to be true, then @wazzu31 is correct. Move wouldn't be for financial reasons. Sans reduced early payments, has any other team moved for lesser money?

I know, I know, SMU did and even had to fork out a chunk but they are an unusual situation.
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The MWC schools are going to get a raise as would the Texas schools, I think $11 is actually the floor of what the reported number is going to be. But the play with Memphis and Tulane has always been try to get them in the Big East for all sports except football.
 
OlyDuck said:
Canzano says no news expected in the next 24-48 hours so I would expect something in the next 24-48 hours
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Well he keeps trying to hype up Texas State like we are suppose to be thrilled. If I were the conference, just as a middle finger to UNLV I’d invite Nevada, so they we can add St Mary’s and call it a day
 
wazzu31 said:
Well he keeps trying to hype up Texas State like we are suppose to be thrilled. If I were the conference, just as a middle finger to UNLV I’d invite Nevada, so they we can add St Mary’s and call it a day
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I know it hasnt been talked about as much but if the Pac does go east I think Creighton as an all but football is a better choice than St Marys.
 
OlyDuck said:
I know it hasnt been talked about as much but if the Pac does go east I think Creighton as an all but football is a better choice than St Marys.
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Won’t pretend to know anything about Creighton. But St Mary’s is going to be in the conference for all but football at least that’s the main rumor. Its proximity, which is why UNLV was always option A. And the bs reporting on Memphis and Tulane. Those two would only be invited if the non football sports joined the Big East.
 
wazzu31 said:
Won’t pretend to know anything about Creighton. But St Mary’s is going to be in the conference for all but football at least that’s the main rumor. Its proximity, which is why UNLV was always option A. And the bs reporting on Memphis and Tulane. Those two would only be invited if the non football sports joined the Big East.
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creighton is in Nebraska thats why i said if they looked east it could help that side of things. having a west coast school and one in among the eastern teams so each area had a nonfootball school.
Creighton went 25-11 playing in the big east for basketball. St Marys was 29-6 in the west coast.
womens was 26-7 while St Marys was 14-17
Creighton is also solid in Baseball where they were 43-16 and st Marys was 36-26
Creighton softball 30-25 st marys 28-23

im not gonna look up every sport but you see kind of the trend there
 
OlyDuck said:
creighton is in Nebraska thats why i said if they looked east it could help that side of things. having a west coast school and one in among the eastern teams so each area had a nonfootball school.
Creighton went 25-11 playing in the big east for basketball. St Marys was 29-6 in the west coast.
womens was 26-7 while St Marys was 14-17
Creighton is also solid in Baseball where they were 43-16 and st Marys was 36-26
Creighton softball 30-25 st marys 28-23

im not gonna look up every sport but you see kind of the trend there
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If Creighton is in the Big East then there is zero reason to remotely go after them though. From the sounds of it they want some kind of basketball scheduling agreement with the Big East, kind of makes no sense trying to rock that boat
 
wazzu31 said:
If Creighton is in the Big East then there is zero reason to remotely go after them though. From the sounds of it they want some kind of basketball scheduling agreement with the Big East, kind of makes no sense trying to rock that boat
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only if those rumors are true.
Money could be better if they get full share of the media deal
 
OlyDuck said:
only if those rumors are true.
Money could be better if they get full share of the media deal
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Sure, but like I’ve said the money isn’t necessarily the biggest thing. If I were Texas State, I’d agree to take a half share, or heck even no share for a year or 2 but also be agree to be Saturday afternoon or Friday night or whatever night the CW game ends up on. Much like how Boise State and Gonzaga made little money at all from ESPN but took those odd nights to play on national tv which helped grow their programs a lot faster than other schools who had bigger budgets and conferences.

Exposure is the main thing, then gambling number 2, then number 3 is tv revenue money IMO.

Either way it’s all gay and I’d much rather SC and UCLA were given the power us and Oregon State were given then the old Pac 12 would still be together.
 


CBS the anchor for the new P12. Games on CBS & CBSSN. Including the P12 CG in both football and basketball on CBS.
 


Interesting comparison with the AAC. I'm just assuming these numbers are correct, but getting 4 games on broadcast television is a pretty big win.
 
I wonder if we'll get any #afterdark games on CBS? There's a market there, and would obviously pull it a pretty nice rating on CBS. Fox did like 1 or 2 a year in the old P12. And did a couple last year IIRC
 
Some notable OOC games almost assuredly to be picked up by CBS.

BYU at Colorado State (9/19/2026)
Missouri at San Diego State (9/11/2027)
Washington at Washington State (9/18/2027)
Oregon at Utah State 9/16/2028
OU at San Diego State (2029)
Ole Miss at Oregon State (2030)
 
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