What If JFK Wasn’t a Conspiracy
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I’m honestly not sure if these questions are rhetorical or what type of answer/responses you are looking for.
First, you’ve listed several different things here. Most are asking questions that call for a speculative answer. Why was Ruby at the police station? Are you looking for a response? Do you think that’s evidence of a conspiracy? He doesn’t look like he’s gonna murder someone in two days? I’m honestly not sure what the point is. Could you explain?
lots of people have stated that Jack Ruby was not in Dealey plaza at the time of the assassination. He was 5 blocks away at the Dallas newspaper office placing an ad for his nightclub. He was reportedly seen by several people on the second floor placing the ad for his club. Here’s the link that supports that premise.
A problem with the headline news about Jack Ruby and the JFK Files and an FBI informant — Gerald Posner
What follows is Jack Ruby’s movements from three hours before the assassination until an hour after the murder itself. It is from pages 411-12 of Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK (Random House, 1993) and is based on contemporaneous FBI interviews
www.posner.com
It’s my understanding that The FBI informant you mentioned allegedly made this statement about Ruby 14 years after the assassination but the WC had already secured the testimony of witnesses that put Oswald 5 blocks away. Do you have an actual link for what you posted above Regarding this informant? That would help.
Oswald was arrested in a movie theatre bc a witness saw him run inside just after a cop (Officer JD Tippet) had been shot. He wasn’t arrested initially for shooting Kennedy. Once in custody they started piecing things together and found out he worked at the TSBD. They also asked him if his name was Oswald or Alex Heidel (the alias he used to purchase the gun). He famously responded “you figure that out”. I’m not sure what you mean by “they didn’t look at anyone else”. Again, he was INITIALLY arrested for shooting a cop. He was only in custody for a couple of days. Not sure what else by way of investigation the cops could have done. It was the WC and house select committee that did the more in depth investigations to see if anyone else was involved. They found there wasn’t anyone.
Why didn’t he admit guilt? Any answer I would supposedly give would be pure speculation and I’ve already been chastised for that. Why are you asking this? Do you think this is evidence of something? If yes, what exactly?
Oswald did leave his gun. He “hid” it (not very well) behind some boxes. He definitely also did not pick up the shell casings. He left them on the ground of the snipers nest. He couldn’t have very well carried the gun with him when he walked out of the building. Are you asking why he left it? Again, any answer I would give calls for me to speculate. What do you think the significance is of him leaving it? What do you you think that “proves”?
ive gotta admit that your last point is a new one on me. Do you have any links that you are relying on for that? What are you trying to say there? I’m just not sure. Oswald was shot in front of about 50 reporters. It was filmed. He was then placed in an ambulance (Which is really a station wagon with windows not an ambulance we think of today) once again in full view of about 50 reporters. He is then driven to the hospital where he is again photographed and videotaped being taken out of that same ambulance. During the trip to the hospital he’s in this very small station wagon type ambulance and he’s being escorted by a Dallas detective Chuck Dhority who stated he never spoke. When he got to the hospital surgeons confirmed his wounds but he died on the operating table. I’m not sure how he could have been given 15 pints of blood in that tiny station wagon type ambulance and in such a short ride to the hospital which is why I’d like to see whatever link or info you are relying upon for that. I can’t imagine that they would have 15 pints of blood on hand in the ambulance but I’m ready to see what you have that says otherwise.
as for the sweater, again, not sure of the significance but it was preserved and is on display. It has the bullet hole in it and where it was cut away by doctors. There are lots of pictures of it online if you google it. Apparently, Oswald asked for his sweater (Which they went back for) prior to being transferred.
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I don’t dispute this. What’s the significance of it to you? What do you think it proves or helps to prove?
You asked before if I had a theory of who done it. I have long thought it was the CIA with an assist from the mob.
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@dbldwn711 can you explain how a bullet fired from the 6th floor would enter Kennedy's back and go up and exit his throat?
I can’t tell for sure here. Can you verify the drawings you link here were from the Select Committee report?
Ruby’s where abouts at the moment of the shots is settled. He was confirmed by many eye witnesses at the Dallas Morning News setting his ads up. He was also seeing the ad that went up from this Weissman person and started down his own road of paranoia that the Jews would be blamed when he found out the assassination happened.I’m honestly not sure if these questions are rhetorical or what type of answer/responses you are looking for.
First, you’ve listed several different things here. Most are asking questions that call for a speculative answer. Why was Ruby at the police station? Are you looking for a response? Do you think that’s evidence of a conspiracy? He doesn’t look like he’s gonna murder someone in two days? I’m honestly not sure what the point is. Could you explain?
lots of people have stated that Jack Ruby was not in Dealey plaza at the time of the assassination. He was 5 blocks away at the Dallas newspaper office placing an ad for his nightclub. He was reportedly seen by several people on the second floor placing the ad for his club. Here’s the link that supports that premise.
A problem with the headline news about Jack Ruby and the JFK Files and an FBI informant — Gerald Posner
What follows is Jack Ruby’s movements from three hours before the assassination until an hour after the murder itself. It is from pages 411-12 of Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK (Random House, 1993) and is based on contemporaneous FBI interviews
It’s my understanding that The FBI informant you mentioned allegedly made this statement about Ruby 14 years after the assassination but the WC had already secured the testimony of witnesses that put Oswald 5 blocks away. Do you have an actual link for what you posted above Regarding this informant? That would help.
Oswald was arrested in a movie theatre bc a witness saw him run inside just after a cop (Officer JD Tippet) had been shot. He wasn’t arrested initially for shooting Kennedy. Once in custody they started piecing things together and found out he worked at the TSBD. They also asked him if his name was Oswald or Alex Heidel (the alias he used to purchase the gun). He famously responded “you figure that out”. I’m not sure what you mean by “they didn’t look at anyone else”. Again, he was INITIALLY arrested for shooting a cop. He was only in custody for a couple of days. Not sure what else by way of investigation the cops could have done. It was the WC and house select committee that did the more in depth investigations to see if anyone else was involved. They found there wasn’t anyone.
Why didn’t he admit guilt? Any answer I would supposedly give would be pure speculation and I’ve already been chastised for that. Why are you asking this? Do you think this is evidence of something? If yes, what exactly?
Oswald did leave his gun. He “hid” it (not very well) behind some boxes. He definitely also did not pick up the shell casings. He left them on the ground of the snipers nest. He couldn’t have very well carried the gun with him when he walked out of the building. Are you asking why he left it? Again, any answer I would give calls for me to speculate. What do you think the significance is of him leaving it? What do you you think that “proves”?
ive gotta admit that your last point is a new one on me. Do you have any links that you are relying on for that? What are you trying to say there? I’m just not sure. Oswald was shot in front of about 50 reporters. It was filmed. He was then placed in an ambulance (Which is really a station wagon with windows not an ambulance we think of today) once again in full view of about 50 reporters. He is then driven to the hospital where he is again photographed and videotaped being taken out of that same ambulance. During the trip to the hospital he’s in this very small station wagon type ambulance and he’s being escorted by a Dallas detective Chuck Dhority who stated he never spoke. When he got to the hospital surgeons confirmed his wounds but he died on the operating table. I’m not sure how he could have been given 15 pints of blood in that tiny station wagon type ambulance and in such a short ride to the hospital which is why I’d like to see whatever link or info you are relying upon for that. I can’t imagine that they would have 15 pints of blood on hand in the ambulance but I’m ready to see what you have that says otherwise.
as for the sweater, again, not sure of the significance but it was preserved and is on display. It has the bullet hole in it and where it was cut away by doctors. There are lots of pictures of it online if you google it. Apparently, Oswald asked for his sweater (Which they went back for) prior to being transferred.
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I won’t speculate why Oswald left the gun and casings too deeply. I just think he was a dunce overall that got lucky with the shots he took. Everything else he did was not with such proficiency. That’s what makes him a hard one to swallow. So many people he met in the years leading up remember him as being a complete moron that doesn’t know what he’s talking about or doing.
If that sums up to he can’t be the guy who made those shots then thats fine. It’s just not the way it. We have a long history of deranged people doing proficient killing and every other step they take is flawed.
As for other suspects….he was arrested for Tippits killing. Which had gobs of witnesses As he was held for this they quickly tied him to the depository. The reason for this…we always get to see the cops running to the knoll and people pointing. But there were also witnesses who saw it from the building pointing it out and cops went into the depository right away. In fact, a cop stoped Oswald on the second floor. A worker confirmed he worked there and the cop moved on. After that they mustered all the workers together and the only one missing was LHO. Then you start interviewing workers and find confirmation he was left on the 6th floor around no while the rest went to lunch. Then you find the gun and shells there.
Why would the police look anywhere else?
There was confusion. Anyone brought in at that moment was a suspect to the media. Hell, there was even a report on NBC around the time that a Secret Service agent had been killed. Where would they get that from? They heard reports of an officer being killed and confused it with an agent.
When he shot Tippit the response from police was fast. The witnesses immediately pointed them the direction he went. At a shoe store near the theater Oswald ducked in as a unit rolled by. Panicked. As soon as it left he left. The employee there was intrigued by this and followed him. He slipped into the theater and the employee told the ticket agent he thought the cops were looking for this guy. They called it in.
nobody is saying oswald didn't fire multiple times... which would cause the casings.
when the shooter cycles the bolt.
if the shooter on the grassy knoll fires 1 shot and doesn't move the bolt, no casing would be found.
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i think you are referring to the drawings you posted. He wasn’t shot in the back and it exited his throat. I recall reading an explanation for those sketches but I’m running a bit this morning. Perhaps @Orlando_Eagles who has more insight into this.
I’m still waiting to hear this blood and 15 pints thing. What do you have on that?
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You and your conspiracy theory...
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understanding how bolt rifles work is a conspiracy.You and your conspiracy theory...
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You don't understand squat.
it hit a tree.