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care to point me in the right direction…
What If JFK Wasn’t a Conspiracy
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I’ve always been of the mind that Johnson was also a target. But his hitman couldn’t get himself up to actually being a hitman.
There was a trial…. So I have never questioned as much. Weird how that works.
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Four seems good.care to point me in the right direction…
I don’t need fluff to fill out the story. Just don’t think he was killed in that raid. Wasn’t living there. Cuz he wasn’t living anywhere.
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got it. Yeah… by the time you were hitting adolescence the topic had pretty much been played out. There weren’t any more conspiracy books coming out so there wasn’t much buzz for your generation to feed off of.
The Zapruder film is the most watched film ever. It’s been dissected frame by frame untold amounts of time. You could get “lost” just looking at that and discussing it.
For example, be sure to ask uncle @Nosferatu and uncle @broncosmitty to explain to you the significance of umbrella man.
I mean WTF was a guy in a dark trench coat doing standing on the sidewalk on a perfectly sunny day with an open umbrella at the EXACT spot where the president of the United States gets assassinated?!?!?
Don’t tell me that’s just a coincidence !!!
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That there was a trial and him confessing to a priest is why I always say end up saying there's probably nothing to see here. But between his assassin being the only one not to attempt the assassination (and probably having the easiest path), the note Booth left Johnson that day, the assassin's quick execution and Booth being a confederate sympathizer who surely would've wanted a Southerner in office....idk I think it's more of a fun what if thought experiment than anything.
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See, this is the shit that makes me second guess you came in looking for a real discussion.
A majority of Americans have doubts.
Most of that majority isn’t going on tangents about the Babushka Lady and her role in the New World Order or Umbrella Man and his signaling abilities. Although the open umbrella is really weird. To the point of WTF.
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Tell me about the note from JWB to Johnson, if you don’t mind.
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hahaha
I was joking. I will admit… it’s weird as fuck though!!
haha.
He’s pumping that umbrella up and down like crazy. He sure does look like and act like a spotter. Hahaha
I love this quote from the guy…
Testifying before the HSCA, Witt said "I think if the Guinness Book of World Records had a category for people who were at the wrong place at the wrong time, doing the wrong thing, I would be No. 1 in that position, without even a close runner-up."
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That was the note left seeing if Johnson was home that day. It's believed it was either to confirm Johnson was there with the assassin George Atzerodt staying on the floor right above him, or it was a false flag attempt to try to redirect and hope to implicate Johnson (ironically leading to this discussion right now) because he was always worried Atzerodt was too squirrely and would back out, therefore taking Johnson down another way. Lincoln's wife actually wondered about that note and was of the belief it was proof Johnson might have been involved. Atzerodt actually might've gotten away if he didn't get drunk that night and asked suspicious questions/got careless with his weapon and discarding it on the street.
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We talked earlier about Tague, he took the shrapnel. He had no intention of being near the President that day. Wasn’t on his agenda. Life just took him to Dealy Plaza, that day, at that time. John Kennedy had no influence on his decisions in any way. Yet nearly 60 years later, we talked about him.hahaha
I was joking. I will admit… it’s weird as fuck though!!
haha.
He’s pumping that umbrella up and down like crazy. He sure does look like and act like a spotter. Hahaha
I love this quote from the guy…
Testifying before the HSCA, Witt said "I think if the Guinness Book of World Records had a category for people who were at the wrong place at the wrong time, doing the wrong thing, I would be No. 1 in that position, without even a close runner-up."
Umbrella Man was completely influence by JFK that day. He was there, with that umbrella, specifically for Kennedy. Because he was a nerd. The umbrella went up and down for the same reason, he was a nerd. Look at me, Mr. President….
Total WTF though.
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hahaha
GREAT point!!!
Yup… Tague was ONLY there bc traffic was backed up. Rather than just sit in traffic he decides to pull over, get out of his car and watch the motorcade go by. He ends up being the only bystander injured that day in Dealey Plaza. He also ends up being the confirmation of a missed shot. Without him who knows if they even find that Nick in the curb.
Unbelievable!!
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I think a major factor in Atzerodt not going through with it was retracing his steps as he waited.
That was the note left seeing if Johnson was home that day. It's believed it was either to confirm Johnson was there with the assassin George Atzerodt staying on the floor right above him, or it was a false flag attempt to try to redirect and hope to implicate Johnson (ironically leading to this discussion right now) because he was always worried Atzerodt was too squirrely and would back out, therefore taking Johnson down another way. Lincoln's wife actually wondered about that note and was of the belief it was proof Johnson might have been involved. Atzerodt actually might've gotten away if he didn't get drunk that night and asked suspicious questions/got careless with his weapon and discarding it on the street.
He was staying in the same hotel as Johnson, under his own name.
I’ve never spent much time thinking about the note tbh. Does really leave me wondering the intent.
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great little video!!
“this is so wacky it’s gotta be true!”
LOVE IT!!
haha.
well done.
I think the most likely scenario is he's just couldn't do it. Booth at one pointed wanted someone else because of the timidness and Atzerodt's defense attorney said in court his client was too much of a coward and therefore couldn't be involved.
The note does make it real compelling though. Was Booth's intent just simply to get people wondering if Johnson was involved? If Johnson was involved I tend to think Booth wouldn't have gotten so careless that he left such a damning piece of evidence that easy to find....could he have? Like I said before, I think it's more one of those things that's just interesting to ponder about.
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A headlining actor, leaving a note for the VP, the day he murdered the President, in the most public of ways.
So much surrounding Lincoln seems like a folk tale, but isn’t. It’s wild.
Fuck him. He made no contribution to this discussion.
It would be just like him to show up after you’ve made great contributions…..wait……
You’ve gotta like this guy. He fully admitted he was demonstrating (about what exactly I’ve never caught….doesn’t matter).hahaha
I was joking. I will admit… it’s weird as fuck though!!
haha.
He’s pumping that umbrella up and down like crazy. He sure does look like and act like a spotter. Hahaha
I love this quote from the guy…
Testifying before the HSCA, Witt said "I think if the Guinness Book of World Records had a category for people who were at the wrong place at the wrong time, doing the wrong thing, I would be No. 1 in that position, without even a close runner-up."
This guy got to be one of the silliest theories.
Honestly, I’ve never even sniffed these aspects of the conspiracy with Lincoln. I have not doubt there was one. This one is easy (as said….trials have a way of settling things often).
I know I’ve been in this thread playing the role or “guy who shits on conspiracies). But, they catch me too, at least as though experiments.
On the face of it simply that Johnson was a southerner is super intriguing. There was always going to be a high cost for the side that lost that war. Getting the winning side run by a southerner could greatly impact post war events.
Im intrigued and might have found the next rabbit hole to go down.
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