Big 12 announces Bob Bowlsby will step down as commissioner later this year

[Volbound1700]

I'd imagine Vandy is a great destination for away fans.
- Its in a nice area and Nashville is right there if you want to go to town.
- Your team will most likely win

The stadium is horrible. I live in Middle Tennessee and have actually been to their games. The Titans is a far more pleasant experience if you want to watch a football game in Nashville.

You guys really don't get it. Let me sum it up this way, if Vanderbilt was without a league, would any Power 5 pick them up? The answer is NO. They would be stuck in the same boat as what you guys call the "Irate 8" and would struggle to find a league.

They are not competitive in any sport except Baseball, Bowling, and maybe a few Olympic sports that I don't know about. They are NOT even good at Men's Basketball and the SEC really isn't that much of a powerhouse in Men's Basketball. Kentucky is the only perennial power from our league. Florida made some noise with Donovan and Arkansas with Nolan Richardson but both schools haven't done a lot without those coaches (although Arkansas is making noise with Musselman right now).

 

[Volbound1700]

You obviously don't. Part of the reason the B1G is such a powerhouse conference is because they have a powerful academic consortium they leverage to acquire research grant money. The SEC has something similar, but they are much newer to that side of things. If they want their academic alliance to rival what the B1G has, then they need schools like Vandy to both set the standard for the conference's academics and to give the rest of the institutions credibility by association. The SEC can leverage the funds and recognition their member schools get from their athletic success to enhance their academic prestige...which is exactly what school presidents want.

Define Powerhouse Conference?

B1G definitely doesn't win a lot of titles. Ohio State pretty much carries that league in Football and does have titles in 2002 and 2014. B1G hasn't won it in Basketball since 2000 with Michigan State. They haven't won a Baseball title in modern era and haven't won in Softball since Michigan in 2005. You are a major force in College Hockey. I think that is about it.

If you say Financial Powerhouse, I totally agree with you.

 

[Volbound1700]

I just looked that up and your are full of shit. Now, I am not proud of our attendance, and we are certainly subject to criticism for it. But bring facts when you want to talk shit about my beloved Dores (ok, kidding on that).

2018:
MTSU fell short of drawing 10,000 fans to any football game during the 2018 season, according to information obtained by an open records request by USA TODAY Network – Tennessee.

The average tickets scanned for five regular-season games MTSU hosted was 8,038. That's down from the 2017 average of 8,428 reported by the Wall Street Journal.

Vandy 2021, which is pathetic:

ETSU - 22,029
Stanford - 21,124
Georgia - 32,178
UConn - 21, 218
Mississippi State - 22, 036
Missouri - 19.821
Kentucky - 25,798

Really surprised they didn't sell out for UGA ... we normally fill that place.

I guess that is an improvement over Derrick Mason's last season. It is still laughable for a Power 5 team. I know there are teams out there in G5 leagues with better attendance than Vanderbilt. I have been to many Vandy games because they are the closest major college to me and my sister went there. Typically 3/4 of a 40k stadium is empty unless they are playing a major SEC opponent, then it is filled with the opponent's fans.

Sure you can say hard for alumni to travel but the other SEC schools are not depending on alumni, they pull from non-alumni as well. Realignment is based on $$$ and sports money is primarily brought in by fanbase and brand. There are far more Alabama, Tennessee, and even Auburn fans in Middle Tennessee than Vanderbilt fans. Vanderbilt does not bring a new market, is not competitive, and really doesn't generate a lot of value and would not be missed other than perhaps their Academic profile and maybe the nice conference win on most team's schedule every year.

Your profile also summarizes most Vandy Alums, they cheer for rivals over their school. You are primarily a Georgia fan. Would you give up Georgia for Vandy? I would say the answer would be Hell No.

 

[Tharvot]

Define Powerhouse Conference?

....

If you say Financial Powerhouse, I totally agree with you.

You'll figure it out eventually. I have faith

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I guess that is an improvement over Derrick Mason's last season. It is still laughable for a Power 5 team. I know there are teams out there in G5 leagues with better attendance than Vanderbilt. I have been to many Vandy games because they are the closest major college to me and my sister went there. Typically 3/4 of a 40k stadium is empty unless they are playing a major SEC opponent, then it is filled with the opponent's fans.

Sure you can say hard for alumni to travel but the other SEC schools are not depending on alumni, they pull from non-alumni as well. Realignment is based on $$$ and sports money is primarily brought in by fanbase and brand. There are far more Alabama, Tennessee, and even Auburn fans in Middle Tennessee than Vanderbilt fans. Vanderbilt does not bring a new market, is not competitive, and really doesn't generate a lot of value and would not be missed other than perhaps their Academic profile and maybe the nice conference win on most team's schedule every year.

Your profile also summarizes most Vandy Alums, they cheer for rivals over their school. You are primarily a Georgia fan. Would you give up Georgia for Vandy? I would say the answer would be Hell No.

I am a Georgia fan because I went to UGA for law school. I am not cheering for my rival, I am cheering for one of my alma maters. Of course I am a UGA fan, who wouldn't be. But, when Vandy is any good I go to games. They just are rarely good. Who cares that I wouldn't give up UGA for Vandy ... I'll support both if Vandy gets good. I used to watch Vandy basketball, and I will go to Omaha the next time they are in the WS. Couldn't go before because my kids were still local in school.

I never said it was hard for alumni to travel. UGA travels well. To no one's surprise, Vandy doesn't.

As for realignment, Vanderbilt is already in the SEC ... why would you say they don't bring in a new market? What the hell are you talking about? Do you honestly think that Vandy is going to get kicked out of the SEC. LOL. Get a grip dude.

Quit making shit up. 3/4 of the stadium isn't empty ... the attendance numbers I showed prove that. So, no, you've not gone to games where 3/4 is empty. It's full of other teams fans. And, it might be 1/4 full by the end of the game, but not against non-SEC teams because we would actually be competitive in that game.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

The stadium is horrible. I live in Middle Tennessee and have actually been to their games. The Titans is a far more pleasant experience if you want to watch a football game in Nashville.

You guys really don't get it. Let me sum it up this way, if Vanderbilt was without a league, would any Power 5 pick them up? The answer is NO. They would be stuck in the same boat as what you guys call the "Irate 8" and would struggle to find a league.

They are not competitive in any sport except Baseball, Bowling, and maybe a few Olympic sports that I don't know about. They are NOT even good at Men's Basketball and the SEC really isn't that much of a powerhouse in Men's Basketball. Kentucky is the only perennial power from our league. Florida made some noise with Donovan and Arkansas with Nolan Richardson but both schools haven't done a lot without those coaches (although Arkansas is making noise with Musselman right now).

The problem with what you say is that Vandy has a league, the SEC. So there isn't a problem.

You don't follow college hoops if you keep saying that the SEC isn't a basketball league. While they didn't do well in March Madness, during the regular season they were the second best conference. UTjr, UK, Arky, Auburn, Bama and LSU are all very good at hoops. I think we got 9 teams into the tourney this year.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I'd imagine Vandy is a great destination for away fans.
- Its in a nice area and Nashville is right there if you want to go to town.
- Your team will most likely win

It is ... with NashVegas being what it is it is a great place to go to a game. You have plenty of tickets, it's a small stadium so good seats everywhere. Good tailgating, and they are dropping 300 million in the stadium and surroundings. And, yes, unless you are Texas, you are likely to win (Vandy is the only team Texas has a losing record to).

It's one of my favorite away games, and not because I went to Vandy.

 

[Deep Creek]

I am not sure what Vanderbilt has to do with expansion. We are already in the SEC. I agree with your assessment that it's all about money when adding teams, but you aren't adding Vanderbilt.

Doesn't have a damn thing to do with expansion. I don't ever see any of the conferences "kicking out" any teams.

But let's be real here, many P5 schools that are getting big checks really don't bring any more to the table than other P5 or G5 schools would that are getting smaller checks. In fact, many others would bring more to the table than the Vandy types. No way Vanderbilt adds any more value to the SEC than Stanford does to the Pac 12. No way Miss State adds any more value to the SEC than a Virginia does for the ACC. But they both get a hell of a lot bigger check because they are a member of a more prestigous country club. They ain't more valuable though.

 

[Knight&Day]

And, it might be 1/4 full by the end of the game, but not against non-SEC teams because we would actually be competitive in that game.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Doesn't have a damn thing to do with expansion. I don't ever see any of the conferences "kicking out" any teams.

But let's be real here, many P5 schools that are getting big checks really don't bring any more to the table than other P5 or G5 schools would that are getting smaller checks. In fact, many others would bring more to the table than the Vandy types. No way Vanderbilt adds any more value to the SEC than Stanford does to the Pac 12. No way Miss State adds any more value to the SEC than a Virginia does for the ACC. But they both get a hell of a lot bigger check because they are a member of a more prestigous country club. They ain't more valuable though.

You've been hammering this line of thought for weeks now. I don't get it. The SEC makes more money because it's conference as a whole has teams that drive more revenue. All the teams provide different values at different times. MSU, for example, just won baseball. They were ranked no. 1 at one point under Mullen. Vandy won baseball, and historically has been good at basketball. They obviously are the best academic school. No one is denying that if we were to break everything up tomorrow and pick teams like we did when we were kids Vandy, Duke, even MSU would be picked last. But that isn't the situation we are in ... the conferences have a culture and history that was built for over a century. There was a time, believe it or not that Vandy was the most valuable of the SEC schools. You have to look at it holistically, not just line up the Forbes list of most valuable teams and whine about it not being fair.

Thinking about it, I take it back about Vandy being picked last. You can't have a conference that is just all the best teams. That's the NFL that gives you 8-8 teams in the playoffs. Vandy would get picked ahead of all the G5 teams because of its academics, because of their baseball and hoops potential. They would get picked exactly because they have a lot going for them and they are a weaker team on football ... conferences made up today would have to have some bottom dwelling teams.

 

[Deep Creek]

Define Powerhouse Conference?

B1G definitely doesn't win a lot of titles. Ohio State pretty much carries that league in Football and does have titles in 2002 and 2014. B1G hasn't won it in Basketball since 2000 with Michigan State. They haven't won a Baseball title in modern era and haven't won in Softball since Michigan in 2005. You are a major force in College Hockey. I think that is about it.

If you say Financial Powerhouse, I totally agree with you.

I thought this coon dog aggie had lost his mind. But, I looked things up and he may have a point. I used the big 3 for men and women and none of the "Olympic Sports". For those that have changed conferences, I credited the natty to the conference they were in at the time.

Some interesting things I noticed.......
Stanford only has one women's hoops title. I'd have thought more. UCONN's dominance was a given.
SEC has dominated football, duh
B1G and Pac 12 have dominated volleyball
If you take OU out of the equation, Pac 12 is the queen of softball
B1G has one, uno, basketball championship among men and women and it was 22 years ago.
Five non power conferences have won nattys in baseball since 2000

Football
ACC-Florida State 2013, Clemson 2016, 2018
B1G-Ohio State 2002, 2014
Big 12-Oklahoma 2000, Texas 2005,
Pac 12-USC 2003*,2004
SEC- LSU 2003*2007, 2019 Florida 2006, 2008, Bama 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020, Auburn 2010, Georgia 2021
Other-Miami 2001
Men's Hoops
ACC- Duke 2001, 2010, 2015 Maryland 2002, Syracuse 2003, UNC 2005,2009, 2017, Virginia 2019,
B1G- Sparty 2000,
Big 12- Kansas 2008, 2022, Baylor 2021
Pac 12-
SEC- Florida 2006, 2007, Kentucky 2012
Other UCONN 2004, 2011, 2014, Louisville 2013, Villanova 2016, 2018
Women's Hoops
ACC-Maryland 2006, Notre Dame 2018
B1G-
Big 12-Baylor 2005, 2012, 2019 Texas A&M 2011
Pac 12- Stanford 2021
SEC-Tennessee 2007, 2008 South Carolina 2017, 2022
Other- UCONN 2000, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 Notre Dame 2001
Volleyball
ACC-
B1G-Penn State 2007 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, Nebraska 2015, 2017, Wisconsin 2021
Big 12-Nebraska 2000, 2006 Texas 2012
Pac 12-Standord 2001,2004, 2016, 2018, 2019 USC 2002, 2003, Washington 2005, UCLA 2011
SEC-Kentucky 2020
Other-
Baseball
ACC-Virginia 2015
B1G-
Big 12-Texas 2002, 2005
Pac 12-Oregon State 2006, 2007, 2018 Arizona 2012, UCLA 2013,
SEC-LSU 2000, 2009, South Carolina 2010, 2011, Vandy 2014, 2019, FLorida 2017, Miss State 2021
Other-Miami 2001, Rice 2003, Cal Fullerton 2004, Fresno State 2008, Coastal Carolina 2016,
Softball
ACC-Florida State 2018,
B1G- Michigan 2005
Big 12-Oklahoma 2000, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2021
Pac 12- Arizona 2001,2006, 2007, Cal 2002, UCLA 2003, 2004, 2010, 2019 Arizona State 2008, 2011, Washington 2009,
SEC-Bama 2012, Florida 2014, 2015,
Other-

 

[Deep Creek]

You've been hammering this line of thought for weeks now. I don't get it. The SEC makes more money because it's conference as a whole has teams that drive more revenue. All the teams provide different values at different times. MSU, for example, just won baseball. They were ranked no. 1 at one point under Mullen. Vandy won baseball, and historically has been good at basketball. They obviously are the best academic school. No one is denying that if we were to break everything up tomorrow and pick teams like we did when we were kids Vandy, Duke, even MSU would be picked last. But that isn't the situation we are in ... the conferences have a culture and history that was built for over a century. There was a time, believe it or not that Vandy was the most valuable of the SEC schools. You have to look at it holistically, not just line up the Forbes list of most valuable teams and whine about it not being fair.

Thinking about it, I take it back about Vandy being picked last. You can't have a conference that is just all the best teams. That's the NFL that gives you 8-8 teams in the playoffs. Vandy would get picked ahead of all the G5 teams because of its academics, because of their baseball and hoops potential. They would get picked exactly because they have a lot going for them and they are a weaker team on football ... conferences made up today would have to have some bottom dwelling teams.

Your cherry picking. And I ain't whining about it not being fair. Why can't you have a conference that is just all the best teams? Isn't that what was talked about with Superconferences?

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Your cherry picking. And I ain't whining about it not being fair. Why can't you have a conference that is just all the best teams? Isn't that what was talked about with Superconferences?

Because college football is about undefeated or one loss. You want teams with 8 losses winning the natty, then do Superconferences.

What was talked about ... there is a reason that will never happen. Because college conferences are more than divisions in the NFL. You look down on MSU, and that's fine. I like going there with their crazy ass fans and those damn cow bells. Its why I never take part in super conference discussions ... they ignore the core of what college football is all about.

There comes a time when you kill the goose that lays the golden egg. You bring 16 super teams together that don't have 100 years of history, your best team is losing 3 games, you kill the goose.

 

[Deep Creek]

Because college football is about undefeated or one loss. You want teams with 8 losses winning the natty, then do Superconferences.

What was talked about ... there is a reason that will never happen. Because college conferences are more than divisions in the NFL. You look down on MSU, and that's fine. I like going there with their crazy ass fans and those damn cow bells. Its why I never take part in super conference discussions ... they ignore the core of what college football is all about.

There comes a time when you kill the goose that lays the golden egg. You bring 16 super teams together that don't have 100 years of history, your best team is losing 3 games, you kill the goose.

Quite the opposite. I don't look down on MSU at all. I just use them as an SEC example. Every conference has similar teams. I'm for the underdog...a UTEP fan HAS TO BE! It is all we know. Besides MSU has The Pirate. That makes 'em likeable even if they weren't underdogs.

I just don't think MSU is any more (or less) valuable to a conference than say an Iowa State or an NC State is. Yet they reap far more benefits.

I agree 100% about ignoring what it is all about...and not just college football. But, if conferences aren't pursuing "super" status, why are they expanding and getting so large?

 

[Volbound1700]

I am a Georgia fan because I went to UGA for law school. I am not cheering for my rival, I am cheering for one of my alma maters. Of course I am a UGA fan, who wouldn't be. But, when Vandy is any good I go to games. They just are rarely good. Who cares that I wouldn't give up UGA for Vandy ... I'll support both if Vandy gets good. I used to watch Vandy basketball, and I will go to Omaha the next time they are in the WS. Couldn't go before because my kids were still local in school.

I never said it was hard for alumni to travel. UGA travels well. To no one's surprise, Vandy doesn't.

As for realignment, Vanderbilt is already in the SEC ... why would you say they don't bring in a new market? What the hell are you talking about? Do you honestly think that Vandy is going to get kicked out of the SEC. LOL. Get a grip dude.

Quit making shit up. 3/4 of the stadium isn't empty ... the attendance numbers I showed prove that. So, no, you've not gone to games where 3/4 is empty. It's full of other teams fans. And, it might be 1/4 full by the end of the game, but not against non-SEC teams because we would actually be competitive in that game.

I have friends and relatives that grew up cheering for Vandy. The constant conversation was about whether Vanderbilt should stay in the SEC or not.

My Uncle use to chime that they should go form a league with other private schools such as Duke, Wake Forest, Baylor (who was bad back then), Tulane, Northwestern, etc. They are not competitive.

They also don't bring any new markets. Tennessee brings the Nashville market more than Vanderbilt and if they left the SEC, tomorrow, they would not be missed from a revenue generation standpoint.

Maybe their academics would be missed but this isn't academics, this is athletics.

 

[Volbound1700]

The problem with what you say is that Vandy has a league, the SEC. So there isn't a problem.

You don't follow college hoops if you keep saying that the SEC isn't a basketball league. While they didn't do well in March Madness, during the regular season they were the second best conference. UTjr, UK, Arky, Auburn, Bama and LSU are all very good at hoops. I think we got 9 teams into the tourney this year.

Name one major SEC power that is considered a historical basketball power other than Kentucky? I guess you have Florida with Donovan and Arkansas with Nolan Richardson but that is about it. We are no way on the level of other leagues in basketball such as the ACC. We have been great lately but we need to show sustained success to be considered a great basketball conference.

The SEC doesn't have a good reputation in Basketball. Part of it is due to the bad performance in the post season. Tennessee is one of the worse offenders, we regularly are competitive all season but then bow out early when March pressure hits us.

We got 6 teams into the tournament (Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, and LSU). Out of those 6, only 3 made it out of the first round despite all 6 being the higher seed in the opening week. Not good. B1G got 9 teams and they fell flat like the SEC as well and didn't have any teams in the Elite 8 (at least Arkansas made Elite 8 for SEC. Arkansas was the only team that really showed up for March Madness from the SEC).

 

[Tharvot]

I thought this coon dog aggie had lost his mind. But, I looked things up and he may have a point. I used the big 3 for men and women and none of the "Olympic Sports". For those that have changed conferences, I credited the natty to the conference they were in at the time.

Some interesting things I noticed.......
Stanford only has one women's hoops title. I'd have thought more. UCONN's dominance was a given.
SEC has dominated football, duh
B1G and Pac 12 have dominated volleyball
If you take OU out of the equation, Pac 12 is the queen of softball
B1G has one, uno, basketball championship among men and women and it was 22 years ago.
Five non power conferences have won nattys in baseball since 2000

Football
ACC-Florida State 2013, Clemson 2016, 2018
B1G-Ohio State 2002, 2014
Big 12-Oklahoma 2000, Texas 2005,
Pac 12-USC 2003*,2004
SEC- LSU 2003*2007, 2019 Florida 2006, 2008, Bama 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020, Auburn 2010, Georgia 2021
Other-Miami 2001
Men's Hoops
ACC- Duke 2001, 2010, 2015 Maryland 2002, Syracuse 2003, UNC 2005,2009, 2017, Virginia 2019,
B1G- Sparty 2000,
Big 12- Kansas 2008, 2022, Baylor 2021
Pac 12-
SEC- Florida 2006, 2007, Kentucky 2012
Other UCONN 2004, 2011, 2014, Louisville 2013, Villanova 2016, 2018
Women's Hoops
ACC-Maryland 2006, Notre Dame 2018
B1G-
Big 12-Baylor 2005, 2012, 2019 Texas A&M 2011
Pac 12- Stanford 2021
SEC-Tennessee 2007, 2008 South Carolina 2017, 2022
Other- UCONN 2000, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 Notre Dame 2001
Volleyball
ACC-
B1G-Penn State 2007 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, Nebraska 2015, 2017, Wisconsin 2021
Big 12-Nebraska 2000, 2006 Texas 2012
Pac 12-Standord 2001,2004, 2016, 2018, 2019 USC 2002, 2003, Washington 2005, UCLA 2011
SEC-Kentucky 2020
Other-
Baseball
ACC-Virginia 2015
B1G-
Big 12-Texas 2002, 2005
Pac 12-Oregon State 2006, 2007, 2018 Arizona 2012, UCLA 2013,
SEC-LSU 2000, 2009, South Carolina 2010, 2011, Vandy 2014, 2019, FLorida 2017, Miss State 2021
Other-Miami 2001, Rice 2003, Cal Fullerton 2004, Fresno State 2008, Coastal Carolina 2016,
Softball
ACC-Florida State 2018,
B1G- Michigan 2005
Big 12-Oklahoma 2000, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2021
Pac 12- Arizona 2001,2006, 2007, Cal 2002, UCLA 2003, 2004, 2010, 2019 Arizona State 2008, 2011, Washington 2009,
SEC-Bama 2012, Florida 2014, 2015,
Other-

I think the lack of basketball titles is the biggest shocker for the B1G. They've had several years where a handful of schools should have competed for the title, only to crap out in the tourney early on. The spring sports being dominated by warm weather schools is no surprise. If the B1G gets a team to Omaha at all, its a massive success.

 

[Thiefery]

lol.. Bowlsby was fired

That perception of performance failure stems from last summer and the abrupt departure of blue blood football schools University of Texas and University of Oklahoma to the Southeastern Conference. It looked poor as Bowlsby had worked two years plus in a small-assigned working group for the College Football Playoff on expansion with three others including SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey. How could Bowlsby work with Sankey so closely for an extended period and be caught completely off guard when two of his top schools left for Sankey’s conference?

Actually, Big 12 Presidents and Chancellors that make up the Big 12 Board of Directors later learned that Bowlsby had been warned. First by former Oklahoma State University athletic director Mike Holder and then later new Oklahoma State University President Dr. Kayse Shrum had warned Bowlsby that the University of Oklahoma was contemplating a move to the SEC.

Bowlsby’s response reportedly was that he slept well at night knowing that Oklahoma and Texas loved the Big 12 and would never leave.

It would later prompt a remark made in a teleconference meeting between the Big 12 Board and Bowlsby after OU and Texas departed where the commissioner was asked, “How he was sleeping now?”

Man what a goof;

Bowlsby admitted to D Magazine last October that the ordeal was rough. It started as soon as he landed in Dallas from a trip to Kansas on the day the rumors broke of Texas and Oklahoma departing.

“As I got off the plane, the first thing I did was call the athletic directors and presidents at UT and OU, then I called [SEC commissioner] Greg Sankey to try and find out what in the world is going on,” Bowlsby told D Magazine. “It took much longer than I would’ve wanted to get ahold of them. I kept getting their voicemails.

 

[OlyDuck]

The stadium is horrible. I live in Middle Tennessee and have actually been to their games. The Titans is a far more pleasant experience if you want to watch a football game in Nashville.

You guys really don't get it. Let me sum it up this way, if Vanderbilt was without a league, would any Power 5 pick them up? The answer is NO. They would be stuck in the same boat as what you guys call the "Irate 8" and would struggle to find a league.

They are not competitive in any sport except Baseball, Bowling, and maybe a few Olympic sports that I don't know about. They are NOT even good at Men's Basketball and the SEC really isn't that much of a powerhouse in Men's Basketball. Kentucky is the only perennial power from our league. Florida made some noise with Donovan and Arkansas with Nolan Richardson but both schools haven't done a lot without those coaches (although Arkansas is making noise with Musselman right now).

titans are NFL.

we are not talking about the best experience we are talking about experiencing vanderbilt.
i have been to stadiums literally coast to coast (and beyond-Hawaii). P5 and G5. its about experiencing what different schools in different areas have to offer.

 

[CoalTrain]

Academic prestige, baseball which is a top 3 men's sport, women's tennis and bowling. They are an easy win, which every conference needs - you can't have a conference with nothing but top 25 teams - that should be obvious. We have Nashville, one of the best away game destinations. We also have history. As for the future, we are undergoing a 300 million dollar upgrade to facilities, and have a new Chancellor who is supportive of sports. First in a while. Like I clearly stated above, Vanderbilt is in the SEC and isn't going anywhere unlesss they want to. Get used to it.

Stop livin in the past and have a look at this, who's #1?:

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Baseball... HA!

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