2022 College Football Playoff Discussion Thread

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

And I doubt the CFP folks will weigh in the fact that Tennessee absolutely destroyed LSU at LSU. Especially if LSU somehow wins the SEC champs game.

It is a crazy year. All the conferences are down, except the SEC. The ACC is a disaster. The B1G is two teams and then a huge drop. The PAC looks good...........if they are playing PAC teams. The Big 12 is all over the place and TCU was picked to finish toward the bottom and they are undefeated.

We shall see how it all plays out.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

I think if Georgia wins out -- 1 loss Tennessee would get in over Oregon, as they'd have much better wins and they didn't lose by 46 to Georgia.

Not a chance if both Oregon and Tennessee win out. Conference championship trumps it.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

It is going to be hilarious to see all the fans who are so pissed once that final ranking comes out, especially if TCU, loses.

PAC fans are going to be so bitter and I don't see any scenario they get in, as the conference played 2 OOC games against the SEC and we know how they ended up.

So many teams have reasons why they shouldn't be in the CFP. I honestly wouldn't be shocked to see the SEC get 3 teams in if LSU wins the SEC CG even with 2 losses, as they will have wins over Georgia and Bama, among others. Georgia is in no matter what right now, unless they miraculously lose two games. That leaves Tennessee with 1 loss and they'd have a much better resume with wins over LSU, Kentucky, Alabama.

So I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it were the winner of the OSU/UM game and 3 SEC teams, as long as TCU loses (if TCU is undefeated, they are in no matter what)

Well, it's quite likely that a PAC champ will have 2 losses, which would knock them out.

A 1-loss Oregon/USC champ is likely in...certainly in over Tennessee.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Well, it's quite likely that a PAC champ will have 2 losses, which would knock them out.

A 1-loss Oregon/USC champ is likely in...certainly in over Tennessee.

Tennessee's resume would be WAY stronger than any PAC team, for the simple fact, the PAC had two chances to play the SEC and went 0-2, with Oregon getting stomped and Utah losing to middling Florida. So how much is the PAC championship worth? And if it is Oregon -- NO WAY the CFP committee is going to make a rematch of Oregon and Georgia after the way the 1st game went.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Tennessee's resume would be WAY stronger than any PAC team, for the simple fact, the PAC had two chances to play the SEC and went 0-2, with Oregon getting stomped and Utah losing to middling Florida. So how much is the PAC championship worth? And if it is Oregon -- NO WAY the CFP committee is going to make a rematch of Oregon and Georgia after the way the 1st game went.

No conference championship = no dice when comparing 1-loss teams. Tennessee has a great chance vs. 2-loss conference champs.

Committee doesn't take into account rematches when deciding rankings...so your argument lost a bunch of steam right there.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

No conference championship = no dice when comparing 1-loss teams. Tennessee has a great chance vs. 2-loss conference champs.

Committee doesn't take into account rematches when deciding rankings...so your argument lost a bunch of steam right there.

In the vast majority of scenarios, I'd agree. When the two 1 loss teams (Oregon and Tennessee) in question would have their 1 loss to the same team (Georgia) -- they will WITHOUT A DOUBT use it as comparison. Also -- when the only reason the 1 loss Tennessee wouldn't be in a conference championship is Georgia just so happens to be in their division -- they aren't going to hold that against them.

There isn't a single person in all of CFB that would argue that the SEC isn't far and away the best conference this year. You could make argument in past year's, but this year, the SEC is in a class by itself.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

In the vast majority of scenarios, I'd agree. When the two 1 loss teams (Oregon and Tennessee) in question would have their 1 loss to the same team (Georgia) -- they will WITHOUT A DOUBT use it as comparison. Also -- when the only reason the 1 loss Tennessee wouldn't be in a conference championship is Georgia just so happens to be in their division -- they aren't going to hold that against them.

There isn't a single person in all of CFB that would argue that the SEC isn't far and away the best conference this year. You could make argument in past year's, but this year, the SEC is in a class by itself.

Of course they are going to. Are you new to how the committee operates? Conference championships is a an explicit criteria.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Of course they are going to. Are you new to how the committee operates? Conference championships is a an explicit criteria.

I know exactly how it operates. Now name me another time where it has come down to the 2 teams from different conferences whose 1 loss was to the same common opponent?

And you failed mention the other committee criteria:
Strength of Schedule -- Tennessee has the 2nd toughest schedule
Results vs top 25 teams -- Tennessee will have more wins
Results vs common opponents -- Tennessee didn't lose by 7 td's to Georgia

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

I know exactly how it operates. Now name me another time where it has come down to the 2 teams from different conferences whose 1 loss was to the same common opponent?

And you failed mention the other committee criteria:
Strength of Schedule -- Tennessee has the 2nd toughest schedule
Results vs top 25 teams -- Tennessee will have more wins
Results vs common opponents -- Tennessee didn't lose by 7 td's to Georgia

Oregon's SOS will be better than Tennessee's by seasons end.

Tennessee has 1 top 40 opponent remaining (#40). Oregon has #7, #13, #23, #41.
With a better SOS and a conference championship to boot, it won't be close.

Also, Tennessee's SOS is not currently #2. It's in the 20s.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Oregon's SOS will be better than Tennessee's by seasons end.

Tennessee has 1 top 40 opponent remaining (#40). Oregon has #7, #13, #23, #41.
With a better SOS and a conference championship to boot, it won't be close.

Except they won't pass Tennessee in strength of schedule, because those teams ranked so high right now with 2 losses in the SEC -- have already played Tennessee and lost (Alabama and LSU). The PAC teams are going to drop as they played and lose.

In the end -- it is all hypothetical right now. I get what you are saying, but I'd be willing to wager alot of money, If Georgia, OSU/UM winner and TCU go undefeated. The other team that gets in would be Tennessee, unless the 1 loss PAC champ is USC. I could see them putting USC in, because it is USC.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Except they won't pass Tennessee in strength of schedule, because those teams ranked so high right now with 2 losses in the SEC -- have already played Tennessee and lost (Alabama and LSU). The PAC teams are going to drop as they played and lose.

In the end -- it is all hypothetical right now. I get what you are saying, but I'd be willing to wager alot of money, If Georgia, OSU/UM winner and TCU go undefeated. The other team that gets in would be Tennessee, unless the 1 loss PAC champ is USC. I could see them putting USC in, because it is USC.

For the record, I think Oregon drops a game before the end of the season as well so I agree that it is hypothetical.
The part so many posters forget about is that this committee is comprised of members from the different conferences, it's not a poll like the AP Poll. The SEC has limited representation and the other committee members are not going to spite one of their own conferences with 1-loss to let another 1-loss champ in there.

There's as much to do with politics as there is about production.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

For the record, I think Oregon drops a game before the end of the season as well so I agree that it is hypothetical.
The part so many posters forget about is that this committee is comprised of members from the different conferences, it's not a poll like the AP Poll. The SEC has limited representation and the other committee members are not going to spite one of their own conferences with 1-loss to let another 1-loss champ in there.

There's as much to do with politics as there is about production.

I completely agree. But in the end, the OOC games kill any argument the PAC has. When two of your best teams go 0-2 against the SEC, with one being an epic beat down -- it is tough to argue how your conference member is more deserving.

And as much as we can say the committee doesn't take rematches into consideration -- it is safe to say, the LAST THING they want is to put Georgia against a team they beat by 46 already in a CFP matchup. These are their prized games -- they already deal with talks of CFP games that are blowouts. Georgia/Oregon would lose viewers because no one wants to see that again. It was a complete mismatch. It was so bad -- there isn't even a way for them to sell it.

 

[UbetterDUCK]

You could say the same thing about UGA rematch with Tennessee. UGA manhandled them. The score was wayyyyy closer than the game. Don’t want to see that again. Let’s face it - it’s Georgia and everyone else.

 

[osubuckeye89]

You could say the same thing about UGA rematch with Tennessee. UGA manhandled them. The score was wayyyyy closer than the game. Don’t want to see that again. Let’s face it - it’s Georgia and everyone else.

Yea problem is the scoreboard wasn't bad enough to knock Tennessee out of the convo.

UGA was just on cruise control at one point and gutting the clock just trying to get out of there. That garbage time TD by Tennessee to make it 27-13 really made it look a lot better than it was.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Yea problem is the scoreboard wasn't bad enough to knock Tennessee out of the convo.

UGA was just on cruise control at one point and gutting the clock just trying to get out of there. That garbage time TD by Tennessee to make it 27-13 really made it look a lot better than it was.

The committee will know better. They are football people, not fans. They aren’t going to be like UTJr fans … oh, they just had a bad game.

Bama losing didn’t help UTjr. If they drop another one, that win is tarnished.

 

[UbetterDUCK]

There have been 16 Semi Final games. All but 3 of them have been blowouts. (within 10 points) It happens a lot in CFB.

 

[osubuckeye89]

The committee will know better. They are football people, not fans. They aren’t going to be like UTJr fans … oh, they just had a bad game.

Bama losing didn’t help UTjr. If they drop another one, that win is tarnished.

Tennessee isn't getting in unless some fuckery happens.

UGA will be the team getting in as a 1 loss non champ if they happened to lose in the SECCG

I know Tennessee blew LSU out but I really don't think they are leaving the SEC champ out. If that's what it comes down to.

They will use the excuse that LSU is a different team now then when they got blasted by Tennessee.

 

[7samurai13]

Trying to figure out what it will take to get MSU into the playoffs.

 

[OlyDuck]

Yea problem is the scoreboard wasn't bad enough to knock Tennessee out of the convo.

UGA was just on cruise control at one point and gutting the clock just trying to get out of there. That garbage time TD by Tennessee to make it 27-13 really made it look a lot better than it was.

in some peoples minds. heard some talking heads on espnu radio say the opposite. say the difference wasnt as large because of a garbage TD and UGA seemingly letting off more than they did against Oregon. Oregon had more yards less points gave up more yards but oops Hooker just got sacked again

 

[osubuckeye89]

in some peoples minds. heard some talking heads on espnu radio say the opposite. say the difference wasnt as large because of a garbage TD and UGA seemingly letting off more than they did against Oregon. Oregon had more yards less points gave up more yards but oops Hooker just got sacked again

Oregon vs Georgia was also in week 1.

They claim it "matters" when losses take place and that they judge teams based off of how they are now and not early in the season. Oregon vs Tennessee for the final spot would be the ultimate test of that claim.