2022 College Football Playoff Discussion Thread

NewPhoneWhoDis said:
God no. Anyone with two eyes can see the best conference, by a landslide, is the SEC this year and it isn't even remotely close. The B1G is two really good teams and then everyone else -- the B1G West is arguably the worst division in CFB this year. The ACC is a disaster, ND did everyone a favor stomping Clemson. The PAC is better than in the past few years, but still not good and the teams are only ranked as high as they are because of that -- Oregon was murdered by Georgia. Utah lost to a bad Florida team. UCLA is somehow ranked 9th after almost losing to South Alabama. The Big 12 is all over the board -- TCU is the best of the bunch, but I don't think anyone in the CFP conversation would be worried if they had to play them.

If there were ever a year where 3 teams from the SEC made the CFP -- this would be the year. Georgia is a given. If LSU beat Georgia -- I think that win alone would trump any loss they had, as just winning the SEC CG should be an automatic bid. That'd leave Tennessee and Tennessee would more deserving than any other 1 loss team.
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3 SEC teams is very much still in play.

LSU beats UGA in the SECCG. TCU loses

That leaves the only undefeated being the B1G champ.

Could very well end up with LSU, UGA & Tennessee in that scenario.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Yea might as well just accept that the SEC is getting 2 teams regardless of what happens at this point. It's set up too well currently for it not to happen.

Would take a catastrophic upset loss by UGA, Tennessee or LSU to totally prevent it.
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Without a doubt they will have two and honestly, it will be rightfully so. They are far and away the best conference this year.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
3 SEC teams is very much still in play.

LSU beats UGA in the SECCG. TCU loses

That leaves the only undefeated being the B1G champ.

Could very well end up with LSU, UGA & Tennessee in that scenario.
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Yeah -- that is my thinking. There is still alot of football to be played, so alot of it will shake itself out. But I think it is almost a lock, at least 2 SEC teams get in and I wouldn't be shocked in the least bit if 3 got in. LSU is 7th in the ranking right now. If they beat #1 Georgia -- they'd leapfrog Oregon and the kicker will be, Tennessee is 5th and LSU isn't leapfrogging them, as Tennessee hammered LSU by 4 touchdowns AT LSU.

I don't think LSU is going to be beat Georgia though. So it probably doesn't matter.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
3 SEC teams is very much still in play.

LSU beats UGA in the SECCG. TCU loses

That leaves the only undefeated being the B1G champ.

Could very well end up with LSU, UGA & Tennessee in that scenario.
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Yeah, what people don't realize is that it won't be about SEC bias if somehow the SEC gets 3 teams, it will be about other teams just dropping out and making themselves not an option.

The Pac12 could very well see cannibalization over November since most of the top 3 Pac12 teams play their hardest schedules in November. Oregon, UCLA, and USC all could very much drop a game or two over this month.

TCU just gives out this vibe that they are eventually going to drop a game.

ACC is probably gone with how bad Clemson lost to Notre Dame.

Basically with these losses, the ACC, Big12, and Pac12 are out of the picture.

I will say this, though, a third SEC team will have an uphill battle passing up the Michigan/Ohio State loser unless Michigan and Ohio State get upset prior to the game.

The most likely scenario is 2 B1G and 2 SEC teams.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Yeah, what people don't realize is that it won't be about SEC bias if somehow the SEC gets 3 teams, it will be about other teams just dropping out and making themselves not an option.

The Pac12 could very well see cannibalization over November since most of the top 3 Pac12 teams play their hardest schedules in November. Oregon, UCLA, and USC all could very much drop a game or two over this month.

TCU just gives out this vibe that they are eventually going to drop a game.

ACC is probably gone with how bad Clemson lost to Notre Dame.

Basically with these losses, the ACC, Big12, and Pac12 are out of the picture.

I will say this, though, a third SEC team will have an uphill battle passing up the Michigan/Ohio State loser unless Michigan and Ohio State get upset prior to the game.

The most likely scenario is 2 B1G and 2 SEC teams.
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I don't think the committee really cares much for Michigan. They showed that by putting them 5th last week, they basically had to put them 3rd this week.

They'd take a 3rd SEC team over Michigan if they were the team to finish with 1 loss.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'm not sure Tennessee is better than Oregon currently.

Yea they beat Bama but how good is Bama really this year?
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Actually LSU looks like the biggest win now for Tennessee because we won @ LSU by a large margin.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I don't think the committee really cares much for Michigan. They showed that by putting them 5th last week, they basically had to put them 3rd this week.

They'd take a 3rd SEC team over Michigan if they were the team to finish with 1 loss.
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Yeah but keep in mind that TCU was looked at worse and if they drop a game (which I have high confidence they will), they are basically done.

Also Oregon has a tougher slate in November this year plus Pac12 Championship game.

USC has both UCLA and Notre Dame to contend with (they could lose both)

UCLA has the easiest road with just USC and maybe a trap game @ Cal left plus Pac12 Championship game

I think Oregon and UCLA met in title game, not USC. I am not sure if Oregon is 11-1 or 10-2 going into the game.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Actually LSU looks like the biggest win now for Tennessee because we won @ LSU by a large margin.
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I still wouldn't be shocked if LSU flopped and lost to Arkansas or A&M. I know both of them suck but LSU just seems like the type of team that could be vulnerable to a upset.

How does the tie breaker work in a 3 way tie if Bama Ole Miss and LSU all finish with 2 SEC losses?
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I still wouldn't be shocked if LSU flopped and lost to Arkansas or A&M. I know both of them suck but LSU just seems like the type of team that could be vulnerable to a upset.

How does the tie breaker work in a 3 way tie if Bama Ole Miss and LSU all finish with 2 SEC losses?
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Appears LSU would still go as they beat both Bama and Ole Miss.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
That'd leave Tennessee and Tennessee would more deserving than any other 1 loss team.
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How so Tennessee was demolished by Georgia also. The committee will look at Oregon had more yards vs UGA. First downs were even, TOP was even. 1st game of season with, New coach, new OC, new DC, 2,100 miles away, 3 time zones away. If Oregon and Tennessee both have one loss, Oregon will get in with 12 wins and a conference championship. With wins against 3 top 20 teams and 5 wins against ranked teams at time of game. Which I don’t like that stat but committee will use it.

If Oregon losses one more time - it’s off to the Alamo or Holiday bowl depending on who they lose to.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I still wouldn't be shocked if LSU flopped and lost to Arkansas or A&M. I know both of them suck but LSU just seems like the type of team that could be vulnerable to a upset.

How does the tie breaker work in a 3 way tie if Bama Ole Miss and LSU all finish with 2 SEC losses?
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There was a three-way tie in the SEC East in 2003 between Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee. They went with highest AP Ranked team which was Georgia. Tennessee fans were frustrated because they had beaten Florida and won at a top ten Miami team and were only 3 spots behind Georgia in the polls.
 
UbetterDUCK said:
How so Tennessee was demolished by Georgia also. The committee will look at Oregon had more yards vs UGA. First downs were even, TOP was even. 1st game of season with, New coach, new OC, new DC, 2,100 miles away, 3 time zones away. If Oregon and Tennessee both have one loss, Oregon will get in with 12 wins and a conference championship. With wins against 3 top 20 teams and 5 wins against ranked teams at time of game. Which I don’t like that stat but committee will use it.
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I think you could be right but not for the reasons you state. I think the committee will favor a conference champion over a general at-large team.

However, Oregon's schedule wouldn't matchup with Tennessee unless USC wins out (I don't think that will happen, I think Oregon gets UCLA in a rematch in the Championship).

Oregon ranked/difficult teams:

@ Georgia
BYU
@ Washington State
Washington
Utah
@ Oregon State
UCLA 2x


So I am giving you a benefit of the doubt and putting BYU on it. The issue with Oregon's schedule is the lack of meaningful road games minus Georgia which was an ugly loss.

Tennessee ranked/difficult teams:

@ Pittsburgh
Florida
@ LSU
Alabama
Kentucky
@ Georgia
@ South Carolina

Ultimately, Tennessee plays more road games. LSU is actually the most attractive win on Tennessee's resume and not Alabama. Tennessee also had to travel to Athens and not neutral site against Georgia.

Tennessee's slate looks a little stronger. However, I think Conference Champion will be the trump card.
 
BTW, Although Tennessee is currently ahead of Oregon in CFB Rankings, I think that is meaningless to the argument right now. Oregon has a greater chance to impress the pollsters finishing out the season than Tennessee since they have a stronger remaining slate.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I think you could be right but not for the reasons you state. I think the committee will favor a conference champion over a general at-large team.

However, Oregon's schedule wouldn't matchup with Tennessee unless USC wins out (I don't think that will happen, I think Oregon gets UCLA in a rematch in the Championship).

Oregon ranked/difficult teams:

@ Georgia
BYU
@ Washington State
Washington
Utah
@ Oregon State
UCLA 2x


So I am giving you a benefit of the doubt and putting BYU on it. The issue with Oregon's schedule is the lack of meaningful road games minus Georgia which was an ugly loss.

Tennessee ranked/difficult teams:

@ Pittsburgh
Florida
@ LSU
Alabama
Kentucky
@ Georgia
@ South Carolina

Ultimately, Tennessee plays more road games. LSU is actually the most attractive win on Tennessee's resume and not Alabama. Tennessee also had to travel to Athens and not neutral site against Georgia.

Tennessee's slate looks a little stronger. However, I think Conference Champion will be the trump card.
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I think Bama wins out, that means theyll probably finish around 6th in the final CFP poll.

That W over them is going to push Tennessee into the playoff.

Theyll have the best win of them and Oregon and their loss to UGA, while ugly, wasnt as bad on the scoreboard.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I think you could be right but not for the reasons you state. I think the committee will favor a conference champion over a general at-large team.

However, Oregon's schedule wouldn't matchup with Tennessee unless USC wins out (I don't think that will happen, I think Oregon gets UCLA in a rematch in the Championship).

Oregon ranked/difficult teams:

@ Georgia
BYU
@ Washington State
Washington
Utah
@ Oregon State
UCLA 2x


So I am giving you a benefit of the doubt and putting BYU on it. The issue with Oregon's schedule is the lack of meaningful road games minus Georgia which was an ugly loss.

Tennessee ranked/difficult teams:

@ Pittsburgh
Florida
@ LSU
Alabama
Kentucky
@ Georgia
@ South Carolina

Ultimately, Tennessee plays more road games. LSU is actually the most attractive win on Tennessee's resume and not Alabama. Tennessee also had to travel to Athens and not neutral site against Georgia.

Tennessee's slate looks a little stronger. However, I think Conference Champion will be the trump card.
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Ummmm please don’t call the UGA/Oregon a neutral site game. Would agree the teams you selected I’d give an edge to Tenn also
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I think Bama wins out, that means theyll probably finish around 6th in the final CFP poll.

That W over them is going to push Tennessee into the playoff.

Theyll have the best win of them and Oregon and their loss to UGA, while ugly, wasnt as bad on the scoreboard.
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Tennessee also has the win @ LSU which is actually more impressive right now than Alabama.

Pittsburgh is finally starting to turn the corner after being crap and beat # 20 Syracuse. I can see Pitt going 8-4 or 7-5.

Florida will beat Vanderbilt and South Carolina to finish SEC play 7-4 and could then beat FSU to finish 8-4. That win know looks fairly good.

Kentucky will likely finish at least 8-4 as well.

The schedule will have other good games on it.
 
UbetterDUCK said:
Ummmm please don’t call the UGA/Oregon a neutral site game. Would agree the teams you selected I’d give an edge to Tenn also
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It is an edge but not by much. To me, it isn't the list of teams but rather the fact that Oregon hasn't played any of the stronger Pac12 teams on the road. I think that is the MAIN difference. Had the win been @ UCLA, I think your resume looks more in line with Tennessee.
LOL at neutral site comment. Yeah it wasn't neutral but it was "neutral" on paper.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Tennessee also has the win @ LSU which is actually more impressive right now than Alabama.

Pittsburgh is finally starting to turn the corner after being crap and beat # 20 Syracuse. I can see Pitt going 8-4 or 7-5.

Florida will beat Vanderbilt and South Carolina to finish SEC play 7-4 and could then beat FSU to finish 8-4. That win know looks fairly good.

Kentucky will likely finish at least 8-4 as well.

The schedule will have other good games on it.
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If we are calling 8-4 and 7-5 teams quality wins

Then we should give Oregon the same credit for hypothetically beating Washington, Oregon State & Wazzu since they will likely fall into that category in the end.

But we all know those teams will just get shut down as "crappy Pac 12 teams"
 
UbetterDUCK said:
How so Tennessee was demolished by Georgia also. The committee will look at Oregon had more yards vs UGA. First downs were even, TOP was even. 1st game of season with, New coach, new OC, new DC, 2,100 miles away, 3 time zones away. If Oregon and Tennessee both have one loss, Oregon will get in with 12 wins and a conference championship. With wins against 3 top 20 teams and 5 wins against ranked teams at time of game. Which I don’t like that stat but committee will use it.

If Oregon losses one more time - it’s off to the Alamo or Holiday bowl depending on who they lose to.
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Tennessee lost 27-14 -- Georgia had less than 400 yards of offense. Georgia THREW for 440 yards on Oregon and scored 49. They had almost 600 yards of offense. And the ONLY reason Oregon ended up with more yards is Georgia emptied the bench and Oregon had an 88 yard drive in the final minutes against their backups.

Both teams were handled quite easily by Georgia, but Oregon was absolutely embarrassed by Georgia. Georgia had 8 different players carry the football in the game, 10 different guys catch passes. They even put their backups in on offense and they scored at will on Oregon.

And if you are going to use the wins against ranked teams at the time -- Tennessee beat Pitt when Pitt was ranked. They beat Kentucky when Kentucky was ranked. They beat Florida when Florida was ranked. They beat #7 LSU by 4 touchdowns AT LSU. They beat Alabama when Bama was ranked #1 and undefeated. Outside of Georgia -- no one has a resume that can touch Tennessee and the only reason they aren't in a conference championship game is because they are in the same division as the team who beat Oregon 49-3. Same thing will happen to either UM or OSU -- one won't play in a conference championship game because they are in the same division.

There is no chance for Oregon to have a resume to match Tennesee, simply because the PAC doesn't have the quality of teams that the SEC has. Are you going to tout a win over Utah? Tennessee beat the team who Utah lost to. UCLA? The best team they faced in their OOC was South Alabama -- they were down 31-23 going into the 4th quarter and had to score 9 unanswered to win 32-31. South Alabama is a team who plays top teams for the pay day -- they played Tennessee last year and lost 60-14.

The worst possible thing the PAC did was schedule SEC teams in their OOC this year. By Oregon getting murdered by Georgia and Utah losing to Florida -- no one takes the PAC serious right now.
 
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