2022 College Football Playoff Discussion Thread

[osubuckeye89]

Here’s the difference … we played an uninspired game against an inferior opponent. That’s on us, and we were good enough to overcome our turnovers and poor play to win. That’s highly unlikely to happen in the CFP against a top opponent where in every game I can think of, the better team won. Laying eggs in that environment almost always is more about the other team simply being better and executing better, not some team that couldn’t get motivated.

Tennessee was soundly beaten by a superior team who dictated the game. I’m getting tired of what I am reading from Tenn fans who are saying their team had a bad day, didn’t show up, etc. There is no question our crowd helped, but UGA controlled that game in all phases from start to finish. It takes some serious fact twisting to argue otherwise. Anyone who watched that game and says “we only lost by 2 touchdowns” simply doesn’t understand what happened in the second half, and hasn’t followed UGA football under Kirby.

Now this doesn’t mean we win re-match. UTjr is a very good team. I would expect a good game should we get there. But the Mizzou game is not in any way representative of what might happen in a re-match, IMO.

When you're a team like UGA, Bama, Ohio State you are every teams super bowl every time you play them as well. This happens every year when those teams have a clunker against some bad team people overreact.

It would be different maybe if UGA was scraping by every week, but that's of course not the case.

 

[Volbound1700]

When you're a team like UGA, Bama, Ohio State you are every teams super bowl every time you play them as well. This happens every year when those teams have a clunker against some bad team people overreact.

It would be different maybe if UGA was scraping by every week, but that's of course not the case.

I get what UGA is saying and I think he believes people are taking away from Georgia's result which they are not but you cannot say Tennessee was on when we had 3 plays with wide open WRs that were overthrows. We connected those plays against Alabama, Kentucky, LSU, and Florida.

You can talk about defense, crowd, etc. but 2 of those overthrows are TDs that were left off the board that were connected in other games.

 

[osubuckeye89]

I get what UGA is saying and I think he believes people are taking away from Georgia's result which they are not but you cannot say Tennessee was on when we had 3 plays with wide open WRs that were overthrows. We connected those plays against Alabama, Kentucky, LSU, and Florida.

You can talk about defense, crowd, etc. but 2 of those overthrows are TDs that were left off the board that were connected in other games.

That's the territory that comes with throwing downfield, unfortunately lol. Sometimes its just not your day

 

[Gatorchip]

It’s unclear to me why anyone thinks a PAC team deserves the playoffs. The Gators are very average this season, yet they beat the best team in the PAC. If The Ducks gets in then the Gators should be there too.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Tennessee was soundly beaten by a superior team who dictated the game. I’m getting tired of what I am reading from Tenn fans who are saying their team had a bad day, didn’t show up, etc. There is no question our crowd helped, but UGA controlled that game in all phases from start to finish.

Yeah -- I've seen it on here a couple times people saying Tennessee laid an egg?!?! You lay an egg in games you don't get up for and think you are going to win if you simply show up. What happened in the Georgia/Tennessee game is -- Georgia controlled every aspect of the game and actually could have won by a lot more if they didn't go into clock burning mode in the 2nd half. Georgia only threw 4 passes in the 2nd half and ran the ball 22 times.

Georgia's ran the ball better than Tennessee. Stetson Bennett completely outplayed Hooker and did so in only 2 quarters. Georgia's defense was way better. Turnovers didn't play a factor as each had 2.

There was nothing about that game where it left a football fan saying -- if these two play again, the result could be different. Same with the Oregon/Georgia game. Neither team could throw on Georgia, neither team could consistently run on Georgia.

If you don't have a really good defense -- Georgia is going to hammer you, because they will get stops on defense. With Tennessee -- that is what will kill them if they played again. With Oregon -- I don't think it matters -- I think Georgia beats them by 3+ TDs as they aren't stopping Georgia's offense and I don't care what Bo Nix has done to PAC defenses -- I've watched him get completely shut down so many times by SEC defenses and again this year by Georgia, no chance Oregon is keeping up with scoring.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

I get what UGA is saying and I think he believes people are taking away from Georgia's result which they are not but you cannot say Tennessee was on when we had 3 plays with wide open WRs that were overthrows. We connected those plays against Alabama, Kentucky, LSU, and Florida.

You can talk about defense, crowd, etc. but 2 of those overthrows are TDs that were left off the board that were connected in other games.

Come on brotha. Hooker was running for his life almost the entire game. He was sacked 8 times. And if Georgia wanted to score 40+ in the Tennessee game -- they could have. Stetson Bennett threw for 225 yards and 2 td's in the first half. Georgia only threw the ball 4 times in the 2nd half. Bennett could have thrown for 400 yards if Georgia wanted.

As long as Tennessee wasn't scoring, they were going to line up and run the clock. That's why they ran the ball 90% of the plays in the 2nd half.

So the talk of missing a throw or two wouldn't have changed anything in the outcome of the game. It was only a 14 point Georgia win because of their 2nd half strategy. The passed to build the big lead in the 1st half and then ran the ball repeatedly to run the clock in the 2nd half.

 

[Volbound1700]

Yeah -- I've seen it on here a couple times people saying Tennessee laid an egg?!?! You lay an egg in games you don't get up for and think you are going to win if you simply show up. What happened in the Georgia/Tennessee game is -- Georgia controlled every aspect of the game and actually could have won by a lot more if they didn't go into clock burning mode in the 2nd half. Georgia only threw 4 passes in the 2nd half and ran the ball 22 times.

Georgia's ran the ball better than Tennessee. Stetson Bennett completely outplayed Hooker and did so in only 2 quarters. Georgia's defense was way better. Turnovers didn't play a factor as each had 2.

There was nothing about that game where it left a football fan saying -- if these two play again, the result could be different. Same with the Oregon/Georgia game. Neither team could throw on Georgia, neither team could consistently run on Georgia.

If you don't have a really good defense -- Georgia is going to hammer you, because they will get stops on defense. With Tennessee -- that is what will kill them if they played again. With Oregon -- I don't think it matters -- I think Georgia beats them by 3+ TDs as they aren't stopping Georgia's offense and I don't care what Bo Nix has done to PAC defenses -- I've watched him get completely shut down so many times by SEC defenses and again this year by Georgia, no chance Oregon is keeping up with scoring.

I will give you a classic example of two good teams and one laid an egg and it wasn't that far ago, it was Georgia last year in Atlanta.

Heck Georgia was notorious for laying eggs prior to last year. Remember the Hope reference with SEC Shorts?

This post in Vol Nation sums up a lot of things. This isn't a dig at Georgia but rather a dig about how Tennessee wasn't ready to compete and live up to the hype. If you don't think good teams don't lay eggs in big games, reference all the matchups in this post below involving Georgia.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

I will give you a classic example of two good teams and one laid an egg and it wasn't that far ago, it was Georgia last year in Atlanta.

Heck Georgia was notorious for laying eggs prior to last year. Remember the Hope reference with SEC Shorts?

This post in Vol Nation sums up a lot of things. This isn't a dig at Georgia but rather a dig about how Tennessee wasn't ready to compete and live up to the hype. If you don't think good teams don't lay eggs in big games, reference all the matchups in this post below involving Georgia.

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Georgia didn't lay an egg -- It was actually a good game in the SEC championship game, Bama just got the bounces go their way in the turnover department. Bama had an interception in the red zone and another interception they returned for a TD. Georgia had 450 yards of offense in the SEC championship game.

And truth be told -- if Jameson Williams and Metchie aren't out -- I think Bama wins last year. Hell -- if just Williams didn't go down -- Bama could have still won. If you are playing a top level defense -- you had better have top level receivers. Williams and Metchie were exactly that -- they had 13 catches for 281 yards and 3 touchdowns in the SEC CG against Georgia. Metchie was out of the NCG completely and Williams played just over 1 quarter, had 4 catches for 65 yards, and then he was out hurt.

 

[Deep Creek]

Now this doesn’t mean we win re-match. UTjr is a very good team. I would expect a good game should we get there. But the Mizzou game is not in any way representative of what might happen in a re-match, IMO.

True. But it did happen. Even in his heyday, Tiger Woods had bad days. If it were only based off talent and the past, then there wouldn't be any reason to play the games. Just decide 'em on paper.

 

[OlyDuck]

It’s unclear to me why anyone thinks a PAC team deserves the playoffs. The Gators are very average this season, yet they beat the best team in the PAC. If The Ducks gets in then the Gators should be there too.

Team sitting in 4th place is the best team to you?

 

[Gatorchip]

Team sitting in 4th place is the best team to you?

What team is the PAC champs?

Hint, it aint the team that lost twice in a row to Utah

 

[UbetterDUCK]

What team is the PAC champs?

Hint, it aint the team that lost twice in a row to Utah

Dan Lanning & Bo Nix have never lost to Utah. Teams are totally different. Last year before the first game was the leaked rumor Mario was leaving. Hence the heated exchange in the tunnel with Thibodeaux calling Cristobal a fraud.

 

[OlyDuck]

What team is the PAC champs?

Hint, it aint the team that lost twice in a row to Utah

Well its 2022 so right now no team is this seasons champs.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I get what UGA is saying and I think he believes people are taking away from Georgia's result which they are not but you cannot say Tennessee was on when we had 3 plays with wide open WRs that were overthrows. We connected those plays against Alabama, Kentucky, LSU, and Florida.

You can talk about defense, crowd, etc. but 2 of those overthrows are TDs that were left off the board that were connected in other games.

This is where you guys are getting absurd. Tell me this … when Hooker missed those “sure TDs” was he sitting in a clear pocket or was he about to get his bell rung? There is a reason he missed those passes and it isn’t just because he decided to be inaccurate for a day. This is the problem with your analysis … you aren’t taking into consideration that the reason he missed those passes was because our defense is way better than Bama, Kentucky, LSU, Florida. We are the reason he had a bad game.

I posted this in the other thread:

-Hooker came in with 40 completions of over 30 yards, but Saturday the longest was a 28-yarder with four minutes to go in the game.
- UTjr came in averaging 200 yards rushing a game but managed only 94.
- 6 sacks were a season high for Georgia.
- Georgia pressured Hooker 24 times on Saturday … in all your other games he was pressured 39 times (8 games).

Why I object to you and the UTjr fanbases “we laid an egg” posts its because it doesn’t give credit to what really happened … you got your ass whupped by a superior team in every aspect - our offense was way better, our defense was dominating, and you got outcoached from start to finish. Start there instead of this “we had a bad game” nonsense not acknowledging why you had a bad game.

I will use another post of yours where you pointed out our loss to Bama in last year’s SECCG … here is how you do this … Bama kicked our ass in the SECCG last year … their offense was way better than ours, and their D forced turnovers. Most importantly, Bama outcoached us big time in that game. We didn’t have a bad game, we didn’t lay and egg … we got our asses whipped by a team that was way better than us that day. But here is the difference … we matched up to them talent-wise, and our coaches did their job better, and our players learned. And we beat them in the NCG. I believe the talent difference between UGA and your team is too great to overcome. I am not saying it can’t happen, anything can happen. But on a neutral field, there is nothing I have seen this year that tells me your D can stop our O, and even if our D gives up a few big plays to you - something I thought would happen last weekend - I believe we still win convincingly. We are simply the better team.

FWIW, this isn’t a fluke … we figured out Hooker both years we have played him.

 

[Gatorchip]

Well its 2022 so right now no team is this seasons champs.

Huh? Just google “current PAC champ” and see what happens.

 

[Volbound1700]

This is where you guys are getting absurd. Tell me this … when Hooker missed those “sure TDs” was he sitting in a clear pocket or was he about to get his bell rung? There is a reason he missed those passes and it isn’t just because he decided to be inaccurate for a day. This is the problem with your analysis … you aren’t taking into consideration that the reason he missed those passes was because our defense is way better than Bama, Kentucky, LSU, Florida. We are the reason he had a bad game.

I posted this in the other thread:

-Hooker came in with 40 completions of over 30 yards, but Saturday the longest was a 28-yarder with four minutes to go in the game.
- UTjr came in averaging 200 yards rushing a game but managed only 94.
- 6 sacks were a season high for Georgia.
- Georgia pressured Hooker 24 times on Saturday … in all your other games he was pressured 39 times (8 games).

Why I object to you and the UTjr fanbases “we laid an egg” posts its because it doesn’t give credit to what really happened … you got your ass whupped by a superior team in every aspect - our offense was way better, our defense was dominating, and you got outcoached from start to finish. Start there instead of this “we had a bad game” nonsense not acknowledging why you had a bad game.

I will use another post of yours where you pointed out our loss to Bama in last year’s SECCG … here is how you do this … Bama kicked our ass in the SECCG last year … their offense was way better than ours, and their D forced turnovers. Most importantly, Bama outcoached us big time in that game. We didn’t have a bad game, we didn’t lay and egg … we got our asses whipped by a team that was way better than us that day. But here is the difference … we matched up to them talent-wise, and our coaches did their job better, and our players learned. And we beat them in the NCG. I believe the talent difference between UGA and your team is too great to overcome. I am not saying it can’t happen, anything can happen. But on a neutral field, there is nothing I have seen this year that tells me your D can stop our O, and even if our D gives up a few big plays to you - something I thought would happen last weekend - I believe we still win convincingly. We are simply the better team.

FWIW, this isn’t a fluke … we figured out Hooker both years we have played him.

Here is my issue, why can't both be right?

Tennessee fans say that Tennessee didn't play good and there is a lot of truth to that. We didn't play good but Georgia also won big. Both are true.

However, can you blame not just the fanbase but even the team for acknowledging they didn't play very well and push to improve their play? The reason Atlanta is so important to point out is that Georgia got its ass kicked but then improved and turn around and beat Alabama. In some ways, I do think Georgia laid an egg because what surprised me in Atlanta was that Georgia had a bigger team than Alabama and looked more talented.

Keep in mind that this Tennessee team has overachieved versus original expectations (Most predictions were 8-4) so this team probably got a little jittery in the lime light. Georgia went through similar growing pains. We are probably where Alabama was in 2008 or Georgia was in 2016 or 2017 time frame. I do agree with you that we need to step up recruiting to be at Alabama and Georgia's level but getting to that level maybe a tall order. Right now, most fans still be happy at least securing our spot regularly as #2 in the SEC East. That is a lot better than where the program was in 2020.

 

[OlyDuck]

Huh? Just google “current PAC champ” and see what happens.

do me a favor and google 2022 pac 12 season champ and see what happens.
last years champs are last years champs
different season different players different team

 

[Gatorchip]

do me a favor and google 2022 pac 12 season champ and see what happens.
last years champs are last years champs
different season different players different team

You’re the champ until someone else takes it. I know this is a difficult concept for Oregon fans to understand.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

We didn’t have a bad game, we didn’t lay and egg … we got our asses whipped by a team that was way better than us that day. But here is the difference … we matched up to them talent-wise, and our coaches did their job better, and our players learned. And we beat them in the NCG.

i agree with the first part, but a HUGE part of what changed the outcome of the 2nd game the two teams played is -- No Metchie for the entire game and no Jameson Williams for the last 3 quarters.

Georgia couldn't cover those guys. Taking those guys out is what leveled the playing the field more than coaches and players doing their job better or players learning. Jameson Willams still had 65 yards receiving in just over 1 quarter in the NC game, so it isn't like Georgia slowed him down at all.

Bama's offense was just completely different once you removed those two guys and it shrunk the field for Georgia's defense when you remove the two guys who stretch the defense out.

That being said -- Georgia nad Bama were BY FAR the two best teams in CFB last year.

 

[OlyDuck]

You’re the champ until someone else takes it. I know this is a difficult concept for Oregon fans to understand.

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Utah was the 2021 champs no one can take that away. ever.
they are not the 2022 champs yet. they still have a chance at it.
also you are arguing conference championships and an empty case against an Oregon team who has more Pac 12 championships (and trophys of such) than any other team in the conference.
Tied for the most Pac 10/12 championships since 2000.
this is also not the football area. the pictures on the wall look like track on the near and basket ball on the back. which is also odd since oregon does have a National Championship in basketball too.
those are called display cases not trophy cases. see the back wall one has pictures maybe plaques of some sort to look at.
is that one small case empty? yes is that the size your school uses as a trophy case? thats sad.

all in all your post is a fail.