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i think he sticks.. if you kept the coach that just went back to UF.. think y'all would have been the pick yesterday.. he visited y'all the most out of everyone
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You guys have to be mindful that NIL is supposed to be changing. If the House settlement allows wild-west NIL, then it will have been for naught. Per the House settlement starting with class of 2026:
- each school can give up to $22 million to student athletes from TV revenue. No more. Could be less. Schools decide how to allocate it. So, no one school is going to have more than another unless the other school decides to allocate it differently.
- NIL has to be commercially driven, and has to approved by a panel designated by the courts. Now, I think this will get challenged and the real answer is a CBA, but for now the House settlement won't allow teams to just pay an OL a million in NIL unless they can prove that they provided NIL services worth a million dollars. That isn't likely to happen.
- each school can give up to $22 million to student athletes from TV revenue. No more. Could be less. Schools decide how to allocate it. So, no one school is going to have more than another unless the other school decides to allocate it differently.
- NIL has to be commercially driven, and has to approved by a panel designated by the courts. Now, I think this will get challenged and the real answer is a CBA, but for now the House settlement won't allow teams to just pay an OL a million in NIL unless they can prove that they provided NIL services worth a million dollars. That isn't likely to happen.
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Both of those are going to be challenged. Not sure how they could get away with throwing a dart and saying "that is how much every school can spend", it needs to have some science behind it and it's not going to be a one size fits all. That would outright ruin college basketball, but I don't think it would hurt football or baseball. As for the NIL board, also going to get challenged because there will be intrinsic values that a disconnected oversight board can't account for. For instance, I can't quantify the bragging rights or future business I may gain by having the starting QB for A&M appear at a dinner party I'm throwing for clients but it exists. And if to me that's worth $1m, then how is some bureaucrat going to say the value doesn't exist? it's the entire basis of our economy, hell even our monetary system. Nothing is worth anything unless someone else says it is and is willing to pay it. The case would write itself.
So in the end this will all drag out in courts for years and the Wild West will continue to roll. The outcome will be like you said, some sort of CBA and it will certainly be at the conference level. At that point OOC games will just become the equivalent of exhibitions and friendlies.
And I hope it all stays tied up in court for at least 6 years, so my son can participate in the wild world of NIL before all the limits ruin it.
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so tv revenue is cap'd at $22mil.. so on top of that collectives and corporate sponsorships money will continue to set the pace?
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but those supposedly will need to be approved before they can go to the players.
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That's the point I am trying to make ... no, the $22 million is a cap. The players can get NIL, but it can't be the pay-for-play type of NIl where they are just given money for some bullshit transaction. The transactions have to be registered and they are vetted by a neutral arbiter who determines whether it is really a good faith NIL deal, or whether a booster/collective is just giving someone a bunch of money to to the school.
If you want to sign a big OL, you can use money from the $22 million, but you aren't supposed to be able to add another million from a collective and say that he's going to sign some shirts. If the OL can sign a true million dollar NIL deal, good for him. But you can probably count those on one hand - Bryce did the Dr. Pepper commercials, someone was in a State Farm ad, some guys from UGA and tOSU and others were in national gatoraid ads. Even those likely aren't worth a million bucks, or whatever OL are getting paid.
Now, I fully expect these rules that are to be supervised by the court in House to be challenged quickly. The first time someone tells UTjr that the million dollars is bullshit, they will move for an injunction. The federal courts might not be so quick to back them in that the players are getting real money to play directly from the school's TV revenue. But it will get challenged for sure.
To agree to the $22 million would have been stupid if you didn't stop the pay for play NIL. The problem is the NCAA is stupid, so it will get challenged and someday they are going to have to get a CBA with the players. Then they can pass rules that can't be challenged.
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they seem to want to handicap collectives but they would be doing a huge disservice.. I know the TexasOneFun legit has those players attend charities fundraisers that attract people who donate for those programs.
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That's fine. If that is worth $5K, great. But if they try to say that having them there is worth a million dollars, or even a $100,000, they are going to get bitch slapped. Basically they want NIL to be what it is in the NFL ... if you can drive revenue like Kelce and Mahommes, great. If you can only get local car dealership ads for a couple thousand, great. But they aren't going to let pay-for-play NIL when the players are now getting paid to play, plus scholarship and full benefits.
Never underestimate the ability of the aggie faithful to throw money away. Exhibit A - Jimbo Fisher
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lol how can you handicap collectives like that though? worth 5k?
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That was my point above, you can't. Something is worth what someone is willing to pay. If I'm willing to pay $1k a plate to rub elbows with the Aggie OL then that is what it's worth. Now extrapolate that across the entire alumni base and what no-name NCAA board is going to say that collectives NIL isn't really worth that much?
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What do you mean "handicap" them? It is simply saying that you can't just give money away with no connection to commercial reality. You and I both know that collectives, at the direction of the schools, were just giving money to players for doing little or nothing. There was no correlation between the amount of money they were given and any real commercial activity they were doing to earn it. It was pure pay-for-play.
That is what the House settlement is trying to get rid of. Let the schools pay from TV revenue, but then stop boosters and collectives from just giving money to recruits to entice them to come to their school. If you can't see how you really can't have both, not sure what I can tell you. Now, I am not sure the House method of doing this will withstand judicial scrutiny, but they are trying. At the end of the day I think the only way to make this problem go away is to collectively bargain, but the NCAA is hellbent against that.
A couple summaries of this:
Student-athletes may continue to enter into NIL agreements on their own with outside individuals or corporate partners. These NIL payments with outside third parties would not apply toward the 22% cap but any agreement in excess of $600 must be disclosed to a designated clearinghouse for review to ensure they are legitimate, fair market value agreements and not used for pay-for-play. If the clearinghouse concludes that the proposed NIL deal does not satisfy the necessary requirements to be an NIL deal, including fair market value of the deal, the current settlement language proposes an arbitration system, where an arbitrator approved by both parties would issue a finding and award relating to the proposed NIL deal. The establishment of a clearinghouse for NIL payments over $600 would give institutions access to information about external NIL activities, providing a level of transparency that does not currently exist to allow for better management of third-party influence and better assurance of legitimate NIL activity.
NIL deals and oversight
NCAA rules have been tweaked to allow schools to be more involved in providing NIL opportunities for college athletes, but they will still be allowed to strike deals with third parties.However, athletes will be required to report deals with third parties that surpass $600 to an outside clearinghouse.
The NCAA is also creating a public database that it hopes will allow athletes to assess fair market value.
Booster-funded NIL collectives have become a common way athletes are compensated, but now those deals will be subject to review through an arbitration process to determine if it is for a “valid business purpose,” according to the agreement.
Violations could lead to eligibility penalties for athletes and sanctions for schools.
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As I have posted, that's great and all, but being top 10 - they are actually currently 11th - puts them, checks list, 7th in the SEC. It will drive you nuts, I assure you. Richt was top 10 all the time, but if you ain't top 3 regularly, you will be losing 2-3 games per year in the SEC because half the SEC teams you will play have rosters as good if not better than yours.
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you will learn, ou fans think recruiting is over whenever they crack the top 10.. pump their chests, troll the other bases.. then will pivot in the fall (when they get passed up like always) into talking on field results.. then in November it goes back to development with draft picks.. after the draft they start the process over with how many bluechips they are about to get.. the cycle always continues..
if they want to go by today.. why do they only have 2 top 100 players committed..assuredly a class that is in the top 10 (or 11) has more than that..right? RIGHT?
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I'm talking to both you guys. As I've pointed out, I lived this for 15 Richt years. It was one thing to be top 10 when in the B12 because you were going to be 1 and 2, and other than playing each other you were always going to have the most talent. But in the SEC you have Auburn, UTjr, and ATM - teams that are not at the top of the league right now - recruiting better than you. You guys look at the SEC as being Bama, UGA, and LSU to a degree. But if you are getting out-recruited by those other teams consistently, they are the ones that jump up and bite you in the ass and give you losses you weren't expecting. That's why UGA was 8-4, 9-3, 10-2 forever under Richt and never won a natty.