Poll Bears 2024 qb

Who will be Bears next qb

  • Caleb Williams

    Votes: 13 36.1%
  • Drake Maye

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • JJ McCarty

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Michael Penix

    Votes: 2 5.6%
  • Jayden Daniels

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • Justin Fields

    Votes: 14 38.9%
  • Kburjr,Nos annd Mofo put ketchup on potato salad

    Votes: 5 13.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    36
Off the top of my head: Stroud, Burrow, Watson comes to mind :noidea:
Stroud is otherworldly, no doubt about it.

Burrow was mediocre at best his first year and that was with Tee Higgins, Joe Mixon, Tyler Boyd, and what was left of AJ Green. He also clearly had a MUCH better coaching situation. Then they added Chase the next year and he blew up.

Watson came into Houston with D-Hop, Will Fuller, and at least a solid RB room and again, a decidedly better coaching situation than Fields has had.
 
Cool, it was meant to cut the shit about him being absolved from any blame. It was meant to disagree with the post that he just needs more around him. I disagree with that. I don't think that's his problem at all. I think the Bears fielded a team this year that was good enough to win. I think one of the weakest links on the team, happens to play the most important position, QB. Currently, he is not a good QB. He's a good football player, a tremendous athlete, and a nice kid. But he is not a good QB.

So ya, when you start spouting off about Denver and Cleveland, I pointed out the context and nuance that you deliberately ignore. Yes, he played a huge part in both of those losses. That is undeniable. From second half failures and untimely turnovers in the Denver game, to the D setting him up huge and him doing nothing with it in Cleveland.

Does that mean there weren't other factors? Of course not. As stated, it's all connected tho. There are ripples from every negative play.


We are 3 years in, and he is still lackadaisical in his drop back, he is still prone to ditch after the first read, he still has an awful windup, he is still habitually late on throws, he still struggles with accuracy, particularly with in routes, he still shrivels when it matters most, and he still only plays well against shitty teams, (save for Detroit).

I like the kid, but if the Bears pass on the number 1 for the second straight year, and next year at this time we are still having this conversation, the city of Chicago will burn.

I just don't see enough to warrant that. I'll support him the best I can, if that's the case, but I have my doubts, that he'll ever be much more than he is right now, which is not good enough.
Love how having multiple huge drops in the Cleveland game is "him doing nothing". Cleveland's defense at home this season was #1 in the NFL. They decimated a fully healthy Bengals team and made the 49ers offense look pedestrian at best. Only one QB came into Cleveland and had a good game and that was Lamar, and it was their only loss at home all year. Fields did enough to get them the win and his teammates let him down. Was he perfect? No of course not. Did he do enough to win? Absolutely. Also you're flatout never getting agreement about Denver. That's literally the stupidest argument any fan has ever tried to make about a loss. It proves you cannot be objective.

Bottom line is this: The Bears very well could move on from Fields and take Williams or whoever. If the coaching staff still sucks in Chicago, the OL remains in the bottom 3rd of the league, and his supporting cast continues to be mediocre outside of DJ Moore and Kmet, he will fail. There's simply no other way to put it. I know you say Fields is the problem, but how many QBs do you need to see come through there and fall flat before you realize that organization is simply a massive failure when it comes to developing QBs?
 
Fuck ya, what a first half he had, eh?

How'd he do in the second half again?

I mean, fuck, how many times you gonna throw that useless stat line out there, thinking it proves fucking anything? Holy shit man is right. Jesus.
Nothing useless about it for objective fans. Never in my life have I seen a team lose a game where the QB had 335 yards and 4 TD passes and see a fan say "yeah but what about that one play where he fumbled with an untouched blitzer in his face? See the loss is all his fault!"
 
Bears taking JJ McCarthy confirmed?

 
Doesn't that lend more importance towards drafting more QBs?
No, it involves treating them more like any other position. Like WR or OT or LB, if you find/develop a guy into that ‘elite’ status, then you can can pay him like it. Speculating that every draft produces more Ryan Leafs than Peyton Mannings, doesn’t mean you pay them all like Peyton Manning.
 
Burrow was mediocre at best his first year and that was with Tee Higgins, Joe Mixon, Tyler Boyd, and what was left of AJ Green. He also clearly had a MUCH better coaching situation. Then they added Chase the next year and he blew up.
He blew up even before Chase, anyone who watch Burrow could see he's a future franchise QB and that was with a bad OL, mid WR core and an unproven HC. Even his first year is better than anything Fields has put together so far in his career but to be fair Burrow came into the league as one of the most polish QBs to come out of college. For Fields coming out, he has some great upside with his arm strength, accuracy and mobility but he did come in the league with some concerns which is why he fell out the Top 10.

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And after 3 years he still struggle against blitzes, his feel within the pocket is below avg. and his major issue is lack of timing / lack of anticipatory throws. Sure an elite OL or WR core can help hide these issues. At this point, the question for the Bears is do want get more picks to help hide the issues or just draft a QB who comes in with less baggage? TBH I'm still on the fence on this, Justin is still a solid QB with plenty of upside who can win games with a good squad but on the other hand I do believe there are upgrades for QB in this draft and QB is the most important position
 
He blew up even before Chase, anyone who watch Burrow could see he's a future franchise QB and that was with a bad OL, mid WR core and an unproven HC. Even his first year is better than anything Fields has put together so far in his career but to be fair Burrow came into the league as one of the most polish QBs to come out of college. For Fields coming out, he has some great upside with his arm strength, accuracy and mobility but he did come in the league with some concerns which is why he fell out the Top 10.

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And after 3 years he still struggle against blitzes, his feel within the pocket is below avg. and his major issue is lack of timing / lack of anticipatory throws. Sure an elite OL or WR core can help hide these issues. At this point, the question for the Bears is do want get more picks to help hide the issues or just draft a QB who comes in with less baggage? TBH I'm still on the fence on this, Justin is still a solid QB with plenty of upside who can win games with a good squad but on the other hand I do believe there are upgrades for QB in this draft and QB is the most important position
This.

Well said.
 
Bears taking JJ McCarthy confirmed?



Ya,hes not going no.1......Thats just Michigan homerism at its finest.....

Harbaugh engaging in psy-op on the Bears. Get the Bears to misdirect to McCarthy and Harbaugh hopes he has still has a top 4 talent when the Chargers pick.
 
He blew up even before Chase, anyone who watch Burrow could see he's a future franchise QB and that was with a bad OL, mid WR core and an unproven HC. Even his first year is better than anything Fields has put together so far in his career but to be fair Burrow came into the league as one of the most polish QBs to come out of college. For Fields coming out, he has some great upside with his arm strength, accuracy and mobility but he did come in the league with some concerns which is why he fell out the Top 10.

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And after 3 years he still struggle against blitzes, his feel within the pocket is below avg. and his major issue is lack of timing / lack of anticipatory throws. Sure an elite OL or WR core can help hide these issues. At this point, the question for the Bears is do want get more picks to help hide the issues or just draft a QB who comes in with less baggage? TBH I'm still on the fence on this, Justin is still a solid QB with plenty of upside who can win games with a good squad but on the other hand I do believe there are upgrades for QB in this draft and QB is the most important position
He never blew up before Chase, what the hell are you talking about? 13 TD/5 INT is "blowing up" to you? His rookie year was mediocre at very best and was certainly not better than 2022 Fields or even 2023 Fields in totality.

Coming into the league Burrow had a WR group that was worlds better than anything Fields has had even without Chase (outside of one season of DJ Moore where he had a career year with Fields). His OL was trash but so has Chicago's since Fields has been there. His "unproven" HC is currently a top 5-10 coach in the league at worst, while Eberflus still looks like an infant out there after 2 years. How badly do you think Fields would love to have a 1200+yard/13 TD RB like Burrow has in Mixon and not have to be the leading rusher along with leading passer every year? Joe Burrow's OC for his entire career up to this point was just named HC of the Titans. Fields' OC was fired and is still unemployed. These situations are nowhere even remotely close to similar.

I'm a broken record saying this but apparently this is what dealing with other Bears fans is like. Fields isn't the problem. Other than giving him one year of DJ Moore, the Bears have done everything in their power to fuck up his development. If you want to disagree, I don't care, because you're ignoring history if you do. There's a very real reason why Chicago is the only team to never have a 4,000 yard passer, and why no rookie QB they draft ever gets a 2nd contract - they are the worst team in the league at developing QBs, and nothing has changed. The new OC brings some promise after seeing what he did with Geno, but unfortunately it doesn't look like Fields will get the respect he deserves from the Bears FO in actually having a decent coach on the staff who is going to be focused on actually improving the passing game.
 
He never blew up before Chase, what the hell are you talking about? 13 TD/5 INT is "blowing up" to you? His rookie year was mediocre at very best and was certainly not better than 2022 Fields or even 2023 Fields in totality.

Coming into the league Burrow had a WR group that was worlds better than anything Fields has had even without Chase (outside of one season of DJ Moore where he had a career year with Fields). His OL was trash but so has Chicago's since Fields has been there. His "unproven" HC is currently a top 5-10 coach in the league at worst, while Eberflus still looks like an infant out there after 2 years. How badly do you think Fields would love to have a 1200+yard/13 TD RB like Burrow has in Mixon and not have to be the leading rusher along with leading passer every year? Joe Burrow's OC for his entire career up to this point was just named HC of the Titans. Fields' OC was fired and is still unemployed. These situations are nowhere even remotely close to similar.

I'm a broken record saying this but apparently this is what dealing with other Bears fans is like. Fields isn't the problem. Other than giving him one year of DJ Moore, the Bears have done everything in their power to fuck up his development. If you want to disagree, I don't care, because you're ignoring history if you do. There's a very real reason why Chicago is the only team to never have a 4,000 yard passer, and why no rookie QB they draft ever gets a 2nd contract - they are the worst team in the league at developing QBs, and nothing has changed. The new OC brings some promise after seeing what he did with Geno, but unfortunately it doesn't look like Fields will get the respect he deserves from the Bears FO in actually having a decent coach on the staff who is going to be focused on actually improving the passing game.

Im not here to argue,but why is JF getting compared to Joe B......??

Poles added Darnell Wright and DJ Moore,not to mention two more olineman thru freeagency( yes we need s center),but his comp % only went up 1%........good for 22nd(??) In the league.
And that was with a rising Kmet.......
His qbr and rating is bottom 1/3 in the league.....

Joe Bs oline has been autrocious,but yet he led them to the SB,not to mention they came close to winning wirh out TWO OF HIS STARTING OLINEMAN.......He led qbs in sacks that year!!
You can argue better wrs,but Kmet is better than any te Cincy had.....
You can argue Mixon,but the fact is the Bears were the no.1 rushing team in 22.....

If Joe Burrow was on the trading block this season,Cincys phone would be ringing off the wall,while ours would be silent.....
Fact is,Burrow was the consensus no.1 pick,while we traded down to the 11th to get Justin,thats 10 teams passing over him and three other qbs drafted ahead of him......

No one in their right mind would take JF over JB.......no one.
 
Well, we all can't be professional armchair assholes.
Cracking Up Lol GIF
 
Im not here to argue,but why is JF getting compared to Joe B......??

Poles added Darnell Wright and DJ Moore,not to mention two more olineman thru freeagency( yes we need s center),but his comp % only went up 1%........good for 22nd(??) In the league.
And that was with a rising Kmet.......
His qbr and rating is bottom 1/3 in the league.....

Joe Bs oline has been autrocious,but yet he led them to the SB,not to mention they came close to winning wirh out TWO OF HIS STARTING OLINEMAN.......He led qbs in sacks that year!!
You can argue better wrs,but Kmet is better than any te Cincy had.....
You can argue Mixon,but the fact is the Bears were the no.1 rushing team in 22.....

If Joe Burrow was on the trading block this season,Cincys phone would be ringing off the wall,while ours would be silent.....
Fact is,Burrow was the consensus no.1 pick,while we traded down to the 11th to get Justin,thats 10 teams passing over him and three other qbs drafted ahead of him......

No one in their right mind would take JF over JB.......no one.
I asked what rookie has come into the league with shit coaching, mediocre at best weapons, and a bad OL for 3 years and looked amazing. Chicago has all of that outside of 1 year of DJ Moore (when he set career highs with Fields throwing him the ball). The OL is still very much a work in progress. You mentioned his comp% is 22nd in the league; that's probably higher than the OL ranking on any site you can find.

Joe B is an elite QB, no doubt about it. He's also had an elite coaching staff, and the best WR room in the entire NFL along with a top 10 RB. Fields literally doesn't have a single one of those things and never has for his entire career, which is why they aren't comparable. Oh, the Bears were the #1 rushing team in 22? Fields led the team in rushing by a wide margin.

I've never said I'd take Fields over Joe B, that was never once a topic of conversation.
 
He never blew up before Chase, what the hell are you talking about? 13 TD/5 INT is "blowing up" to you? His rookie year was mediocre at very best and was certainly not better than 2022 Fields or even 2023 Fields in totality.
269 Yrds/G 13 TD/5 INT before he got hurt. Not necessary blowing up but definitely validate why he was picked at the top of the draft and confident he's a future franchise QB.

Coming into the league Burrow had a WR group that was worlds better than anything Fields has had even without Chase (outside of one season of DJ Moore where he had a career year with Fields). His OL was trash but so has Chicago's since Fields has been there. His "unproven" HC is currently a top 5-10 coach in the league at worst, while Eberflus still looks like an infant out there after 2 years. How badly do you think Fields would love to have a 1200+yard/13 TD RB like Burrow has in Mixon and not have to be the leading rusher along with leading passer every year? Joe Burrow's OC for his entire career up to this point was just named HC of the Titans. Fields' OC was fired and is still unemployed. These situations are nowhere even remotely close to similar.

I'm a broken record saying this but apparently this is what dealing with other Bears fans is like. Fields isn't the problem. Other than giving him one year of DJ Moore, the Bears have done everything in their power to fuck up his development. If you want to disagree, I don't care, because you're ignoring history if you do. There's a very real reason why Chicago is the only team to never have a 4,000 yard passer, and why no rookie QB they draft ever gets a 2nd contract - they are the worst team in the league at developing QBs, and nothing has changed. The new OC brings some promise after seeing what he did with Geno, but unfortunately it doesn't look like Fields will get the respect he deserves from the Bears FO in actually having a decent coach on the staff who is going to be focused on actually improving the passing game.
No I don't believe Fields is the problem. Bears is just a young team who's been rebuilding the last couple of years and currently have a ton of cap space. I like Justin Fields a lot and wouldn't mind keeping him and building around him. But I'm also realistic to know that there are upgrades in this draft at QB. If the Bears are so bad at developing QBs then maybe we should just trade Fields to a team who can and draft a QB who needs less developing
 
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