Poll Better Job: Wisconsin or Nebraska?

[Red_Alert]

I’m announcing that I have withdrawn my name from the Nebraska Coaching search. However I’m very optimistic about the Calhoun Community College job.

You're not doin' it rite.

You're supposed to say you were offered but declined.

The WhoPhoneDis method of coaching search facts.

 

[Red_Alert]

Since you seem to think no one is turning down the Nebraska job, even though it is on record -- I will bet you a lifetime avy bet, Nebraska doesn't bring in one of the top coaches to take over the program, like LSU and USC did.

Nebraska fans seem to think they have a blank check to give to whoever they want to take over the program, so obviously one of the elite coaches in CFB should be taking over the program.

I would almost bet my life it ends up being Mickey Joseph or some coordinator from an actual elite program that ends up being HC. No established head coach in CFB is leaving a job to go to Nebraska knowing they truly believe they should be competing with the Alabama's, Georgia's, Ohio State's, etc. when you have zero talent in state or around you, the two states you used to be solid recruiting (texas and cali) are no longer truly options as you play in the Midwest now and you have no national rivals anymore.

There are only 3 elite coaches right now. Those are Saban, Dabo, and Urbs.

I agree neither of those will be going to Nebraska.

If Oklahoma were 5-0 right now, you'd have Venables on your list. If tejas were 5-0 you'd have Sark on your list.

Anyone other than the 3 elite I mentioned are a gamble.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Yea good luck with that though. Lol.

You can see on here from their fan base how crazy they are -- they actually believe they are a coach away from competing with Ohio State for B1G supremacy and elite status nationally. I'm a die hard Michigan fan and even I'm not that delusional.

Ohio State has more talent on their roster than the rest of the B1G combined. Michigan finally got a win last year, but no chance is UM surpassing OSU, as we simply do not recruit on the same level as OSU and we never will.

CFB is completely different than the 70's, 80's, 90's. The elite recruits are no longer in the Midwest, they are almost all in the South/SW/West. Recruits don't slip thru the cracks anymore with the internet and social media. National camps, strength and conditioning coaches, etc have recruits closer to their ceiling than ever before, it is why schools spend a fortune on recruiting. The days of recruiting and developing 2 and 3 star recruits and competing nationally are over.

 

[Deep Creek]

There are only 3 elite coaches right now. Those are Saban, Dabo, and Urbs.

I agree neither of those will be going to Nebraska.

If Oklahoma were 5-0 right now, you'd have Venables on your list. If tejas were 5-0 you'd have Sark on your list.

Anyone other than the 3 elite I mentioned are a gamble.

Wait a minute. Sparty and Aggie must have elite coaches because they are paying elite wages to them. That was the consensus the other day wasn't it?

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

There are only 3 elite coaches right now. Those are Saban, Dabo, and Urbs.

I agree neither of those will be going to Nebraska.

If Oklahoma were 5-0 right now, you'd have Venables on your list. If tejas were 5-0 you'd have Sark on your list.

Anyone other than the 3 elite I mentioned are a gamble.

Ahhhhh so you are setting yourself for failure already. I like your style. It won't be the fact Nebraska is now a school playing in the B1G with no national rivals and no in state talent, but it was a gamble and the coach wasn't the right choice again.

So which coach are you most looking forward to blaming next?

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Wait a minute. Sparty and Aggie must have elite coaches because they are paying elite wages to them. That was the consensus the other day wasn't it?

Mel Tucker should be charged with a felony for the amount they are paying him. At least Jimbo Fisher had won a title and showed he could compete nationally.

That being said -- both of those guys are laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[Red_Alert]

Mel Tucker should be charged with a felony for the amount they are paying him. At least Jimbo Fisher had won a title and showed he could compete nationally.

That being said -- both of those guys are laughing all the way to the bank.

Hindsight is 20/20, you idiot.

If they were doing well you'd have them on your list of elites like @Deep Creek alluded.

You're swinging on Georgia's nads because they won the natty last season.

A search reveals you had not even one mention of "Georgia" until Jan 31st of 2022.

"What is now will always be, see how right I am today?" - WhoPhoneDis

 

[Tomhusker]

If Nebraska finally gets a grip on reality and understand that their ceiling in today's CFB is 8, 9, 10 win type team and there isn't a chance in hell they will compete with the nationally elite, because they have no shot at recruiting at the same level as the national elite -- then I'd say Nebraska is the better job.

Based on expectations -- Wisconsin is the better job, as they just want to compete in their division each year. They don't have pipe dreams of being nationally elite.

Nebraska isn't the one who keeps bringing

You can see on here from their fan base how crazy they are -- they actually believe they are a coach away from competing with Ohio State for B1G supremacy and elite status nationally. I'm a die hard Michigan fan and even I'm not that delusional.

Ohio State has more talent on their roster than the rest of the B1G combined. Michigan finally got a win last year, but no chance is UM surpassing OSU, as we simply do not recruit on the same level as OSU and we never will.

CFB is completely different than the 70's, 80's, 90's. The elite recruits are no longer in the Midwest, they are almost all in the South/SW/West. Recruits don't slip thru the cracks anymore with the internet and social media. National camps, strength and conditioning coaches, etc have recruits closer to their ceiling than ever before, it is why schools spend a fortune on recruiting. The days of recruiting and developing 2 and 3 star recruits and competing nationally are over.

You know who keeps bringing up the 70's,80's & 90's?
People like you. You think you know what a Nebraska fan is thinking.
I'm gonna let you in on a secret.
You're don't.
Husker fans, outside of a few maroons, aren't expecting a return to the old days.
They are expecting to watch a game and not have the team shit down their leg in front of the entire nation.
They are expecting the team to win the games the should, and compete in the other games. Maybe an upset here and there.
They are expecting to see a disciplined team. A team that knows how to line up. A team that won't fold when they are punched in the mouth. A tough team.
That's not a return to the glory years.

 

[Red_Alert]

Nebraska isn't the one who keeps bringing

You know who keeps bringing up the 70's,80's & 90's?
People like you. You think you know what a Nebraska fan is thinking.
I'm gonna let you in on a secret.
You're don't.
Husker fans, outside of a few maroons, aren't expecting a return to the old days.
They are expecting to watch a game and not have the team shit down their leg in front of the entire nation.
They are expecting the team to win the games the should, and compete in the other games. Maybe an upset here and there.
They are expecting to see a disciplined team. A team that knows how to line up. A team that won't fold when they are punched in the mouth. A tough team.
That's not a return to the glory years.

WhoPhoneDis clearly has a crystal ball shoved up his ass, is constipated, and has been trying for years to shit it out.

He/She can't post without regurgitating the same ol' tantrums ad nauseam.

I'd bet he/she just cuts and pastes them from a list, as opposed to writing out the TLDR's every time.

 

[Tomhusker]

Nebraska isn't the one who keeps bringing

You know who keeps bringing up the 70's,80's & 90's?
People like you. You think you know what a Nebraska fan is thinking.
I'm gonna let you in on a secret.
You're don't.
Husker fans, outside of a few maroons, aren't expecting a return to the old days.
They are expecting to watch a game and not have the team shit down their leg in front of the entire nation.
They are expecting the team to win the games the should, and compete in the other games. Maybe an upset here and there.
They are expecting to see a disciplined team. A team that knows how to line up. A team that won't fold when they are punched in the mouth. A tough team.
That's not a return to the glory years.

Holy fucking quote fail!

I'm gonna have to have a talk with the boss man about interrupting my posting with work bullshit. He needs to understand that I got some shit to say.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

WhoPhoneDis clearly has a crystal ball shoved up his ass, is constipated, and has been trying for years to shit it out.

He/She can't post without regurgitating the same ol' tantrums ad nauseam.

I'd bet he/she just cuts and pastes them from a list, as opposed to writing out the TLDR's every time.

It isn't a crystal ball. I called it as soon as Nebraska left from the Big 12 to come to the B1G. Great move for the university financially -- HORRIBLE move for their football program.

Have I been wrong?

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Nebraska isn't the one who keeps bringing

You know who keeps bringing up the 70's,80's & 90's?
People like you. You think you know what a Nebraska fan is thinking.
I'm gonna let you in on a secret.
You're don't.
Husker fans, outside of a few maroons, aren't expecting a return to the old days.
They are expecting to watch a game and not have the team shit down their leg in front of the entire nation.
They are expecting the team to win the games the should, and compete in the other games. Maybe an upset here and there.
They are expecting to see a disciplined team. A team that knows how to line up. A team that won't fold when they are punched in the mouth. A tough team.
That's not a return to the glory years.

Then i agree -- Nebraska can get to an Iowa/Wisconsin level, compete with those teams for a division title once in a while. But competing with the Ohio State, the Bama, the Georgia, etc. is never happening.

And if you don't think Nebraska brings up the past -- you obviously don't follow the board much. They talk about 1997 as if it was yesterday.

 

[CorpRebel]

 

[Red_Alert]

It isn't a crystal ball. I called it as soon as Nebraska left from the Big 12 to come to the B1G. Great move for the university financially -- HORRIBLE move for their football program.

Have I been wrong?

3, 2, 1 for another ad nauseam cut & paste.

Not one post from you mentioning Georgia before they won the natty on a do-over.
Since Jan 31, 2022 you're all over their nuts as the greatest program ever, the new Bama, and will reign until the end of time.

LMAO!!!

 

[Deep Creek]

Mel Tucker should be charged with a felony for the amount they are paying him. At least Jimbo Fisher had won a title and showed he could compete nationally.

That being said -- both of those guys are laughing all the way to the bank.

Yep. They damn sure shouldn't have turned the money down.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

3, 2, 1 for another ad nauseam cut & paste.

Not one post from you mentioning Georgia before they won the natty on a do-over.
Since Jan 31, 2022 you're all over their nuts as the greatest program ever, the new Bama, and will reign until the end of time.

LMAO!!!

I didn't say anything -- all I asked was, have I been wrong?

 

[TaikoTiger]

Much easier to recruit at Nebraska.
Its actually impressive how many games Chryst has won with the classes they get. Good luck replacing that

How did you come up with that opinion?

On paper over the past few years both Nebraska and Wisconsin has brought in the same amount of talent. The thing is Nebraska is recruiting at their floor and keeping up without having good teams to show off to recruits. I have respect for what Chryst accomplished at Wisconsin with the talent he has had, right now there's bigger shoes to fill at Wisc. than Nebraska and higher expectations which is why I would lean Nebraska if I was looking for a HC job

Year	Nebraska (avg recruit rating per 247)	Wisconsin (avg recruit rating per 247)
2022	87.03	87.66
2021	87.64	89.04
2020	88.26	87.83
2019	88.50	87.86
2018	87.65	86.48
2017	87.81	85.82
2016	86.86	84.96
2015	86.16	85.50

Year	Nebraska (W-L)	Wisconsin (W-L)
2022	2-3	2-3
2021	3-9	9-4
2020	3-5	4-3 (Covid)
2019	5-7	10-4
2018	4-8	8-5
2017	4-8	13-1
2016	9-4	11-3
2015	6-7	10-3

 

[Huskers4me]

No they aren't my quotes -- And yes, it is on record that multiple coaches turned down the Nebraska job in 2004. It is why it took you so damn long to hire a coach. The quote was from a 2004 ESPN headline.

It is also why I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see Mickey Joseph given the job, because no big name coach is going to Nebraska and putting themselves in a huge recruiting hole with a fan base who thinks they have a legit shot to be elite again. It simply isn't happening.

So Coaches from 2004 are relevant now how? Pederson fired a well respected 9 win coach then EXACTLY like Wisconsin did yesterday. Nebraska certainly didn’t just do that so what you meant to say was…..

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

3, 2, 1 for another ad nauseam cut & paste.

Not one post from you mentioning Georgia before they won the natty on a do-over.
Since Jan 31, 2022 you're all over their nuts as the greatest program ever, the new Bama, and will reign until the end of time.

LMAO!!!

And you can add in all you'd like regarding Georgia -- I simply stated, they are the one program who could pull off the type of run that Bama has had, as no team in all of CFB, has the type of recruiting advantage they have.

 

[Huskers4me]

You can see on here from their fan base how crazy they are -- they actually believe they are a coach away from competing with Ohio State for B1G supremacy and elite status nationally. I'm a die hard Michigan fan and even I'm not that delusional.

Says who, some Meatchicken Sausage head?