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duckboy33 said:
Can you imagine not being tier 1?
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GT finally going to get that natty I've been waiting on.
 
Kburjr said:
No Jump Around or Enter Sandman? Bogus

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I'll give them ¼ credit for at least thinking about adding them.

Truthfully, if I was the game developer I probably wouldn't have went that extra mile to license those two songs either - even though it would've been cool to do. "Jump Around" is House of Pain's only source of income these days so they're gonna capitalize on it as much as they can. Metallica has asked for excessive sums of money for any licensing of any songs since before the Napster saga long ago. There wouldn't have been enough bang for the buck to pull the trigger on either song.

I'm no copyright/licensing lawyer so I'm a bit ignorant here, but if I was the game developer I would've seriously investigated trying to use an obvious cover of both songs by bands with much more reasonable licensing fees (i.e. small-time bands who want to get their name out to the masses).
 
RP-29 said:
I'll give them ¼ credit for at least thinking about adding them.

Truthfully, if I was the game developer I probably wouldn't have went that extra mile to license those two songs either - even though it would've been cool to do. "Jump Around" is House of Pain's only source of income these days so they're gonna capitalize on it as much as they can. Metallica has asked for excessive sums of money for any licensing of any songs since before the Napster saga long ago. There wouldn't have been enough bang for the buck to pull the trigger on either song.

I'm no copyright/licensing lawyer so I'm a bit ignorant here, but if I was the game developer I would've seriously investigated trying to use an obvious cover of both songs by bands with much more reasonable licensing fees (i.e. small-time bands who want to get their name out to the masses).
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The licensing fee is still negotiated by the publisher no matter whose version you own.
 
Kburjr said:
The licensing fee is still negotiated by the publisher no matter whose version you own.
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The point was that it may have been a hell of a lot cheaper to license covers of those songs and therefore make it much more feasible to include in the game. Who actually negotiates licensing is rather inconsequential to the proposed objective.
 
RP-29 said:
The point was that it may have been a hell of a lot cheaper to license covers of those songs and therefore make it much more feasible to include in the game. Who actually negotiates licensing is rather inconsequential to the proposed objective.
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What I am saying is that the publisher of the music owns the rights, not the cover band. Metallica owns Enter Sandman. A cover band cannot sell their version without Metallica's permission. That's why songwriters selling their catalogs get the prices they do.
 
Kburjr said:
What I am saying is that the publisher of the music owns the rights, not the cover band. Metallica owns Enter Sandman. A cover band cannot sell their version without Metallica's permission. That's why songwriters selling their catalogs get the prices they do.
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Okay, I get what you're saying now; but that may not even be true. Oftentimes, bands negotiate with record labels to produce and release their music and - depending on the negotiated contract - the record label might have near complete control of the music, not the band itself. I hear cases like that constantly.

Since I know Metallica has a tight grip on their music; I imagine you're probably right in the case of Enter Sandman. It could be a completely different story with Jump Around. Regardless, that's why I claimed ignorance and cited 'investigate'. I don't know. Maybe legal workarounds are available for both songs. EA didn't care enough about that detail to put forth the effort. If I was running the game's dev team, I would've at least made a few diligent phone calls.
 
RP-29 said:
Okay, I get what you're saying now; but that may not even be true. Oftentimes, bands negotiate with record labels to produce and release their music and - depending on the negotiated contract - the record label might have near complete control of the music, not the band itself. I hear cases like that constantly.

Since I know Metallica has a tight grip on their music; I imagine you're probably right in the case of Enter Sandman. It could be a completely different story with Jump Around. Regardless, that's why I claimed ignorance and cited 'investigate'. I don't know. Maybe legal workarounds are available for both songs. EA didn't care enough about that detail to put forth the effort. If I was running the game's dev team, I would've at least made a few diligent phone calls.
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This is the basis to all the lawsuits over royalties in the music business.

P.S. I don't know if he still does, but at one time Paul McCartney owned the rights to On Wisconsin.

I, actually, have gotten a copy of the score to the music in the movie Jayne Mansfield's Car. There were some music in it that I wanted to write lyrics for. I had a few shallow conversations with the guy that owns the rights. That, with a little research is where I got my info.
 
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