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Pretty much how I see it.
And NONE OF THAT has anything to do with his Michigan coaching career. Not sure why Newphone wants to die on this hill
Harbaugh does the dishes for the mother of a recruit.
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And NONE OF THAT has anything to do with his Michigan coaching career. Not sure why Newphone wants to die on this hill
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I guess Harbaugh is a elite QB compared to us posting here.
But when it comes to the NFL, no not "elite".
But when it comes to the NFL, no not "elite".
Actually, he nailed it. He was an elite back up. That started
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Of course anyone who makes it and lasts in the NFL is a elite football player compared to the rest of the world.
But that doesn't make them elite by NFL standards.
But that doesn't make them elite by NFL standards.
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Come on now - Comedy would be the success rate of Ohio State QB's in the NFL.
All I stated is he was one of the elite QB's of his era and nothing about being named the MVP of the Big 10, 3rd in the Heisman, being named All-American, 1st round NFL draft pick, 14 years in the NFL, with 10 years as a starter says anything different.
Everyone else is the one making it solely about the NFL and who was the best NFL QB's. I call those guys the NFL greats or Future HOF'ers (or in most cases, current HOF'er).
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Yes -- the elite pine-rider that started 140 games in the NFL.
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Because that's what it's about lol
He's average at best by NFL standards. Of course he's "more elite" than some random college QB who never even made it to the league. But when talking NFL you go by NFL standards, not world standards.
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The average career for a NFL QB is 4 years. Lasting 14 years means he did something right. Was he a NFL great? No. Was he even a top tier QB in the NFL? No. Was he a journeyman NFL QB? Yes. But any QB who starts multiple years at a major university, named MVP of their conference, finishes 3rd in the Heisman, named to All-American teams his senior year, drafted in the 1st round of the NFL draft, started 140 games in 14 years in the NFL is one of the elite QB's in that era.
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Man, Brian Hoyer is now an elite QB of this era. You heard it here first.
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Jim Harbaugh has less career TD passes than the likes of Steve Bartkowski, Jeff Blake and Chris Chandler.
Totally elite though.
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It is a compilation of college and NFL. He had success in both. NOWHERE did i say he was one of the NFL greats at QB. I didn't call him a HOF'er. I said he was one of the elite QB's in his era, which consists of HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of QB's. So even if he is considered the 20th best QB -- THAT is elite, when you are talking about 100's and 100's of QBs.
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I guess at least Harbaugh BARELY has more career TD passes than Mark Bulger, Chris Miller & Aaron Brooks.
Maybe he is elite!!
Maybe he is elite!!
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Harbaugh went to QBU in college. Fun fact- Harbaugh is the first Michigan QB to throw for a touchdown in the NFL. That’s a big reason why he is an elite of his era.I guess at least Harbaugh BARELY has more career TD passes than Mark Bulger, Chris Miller & Aaron Brooks.
Maybe he is elite!!
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Oh i've seen Michigan fans argue that Brian Griese was "elite" in the NFL as well. They really go full retard sometimes.
Yes he was a good college QB. He was a starter for 10 years because there was a lot of garbage QBs then. All you have to do is hit the click button.
The dude started 15 games in 1993 with 7 TDs
Probably time to grab a beer
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Craig Krenzel 3 tdsI guess at least Harbaugh BARELY has more career TD passes than Mark Bulger, Chris Miller & Aaron Brooks.
Maybe he is elite!!
Troy Smith 8 tds
Terrell Pryor 9 tds
Braxton Miller 0 tds
JT Barrett 0 tds
Cardale Jones 0 tds
Dwayne Haskins 12 tds
Justin Fields 20 tds
Here are the Ohio State QB's drafted into the NFL the last 20 years. All of them combined have 52 tds. They have 56 ints between them.
Between the 8 guys coming from one of the premier CFB programs, they have less years at QB than Harbaugh did on his own. So as I said -- was he a NFL great? No. Was he an elite QB of his era? Yes.
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Yes he was a good college QB. He was a starter for 10 years because there was a lot of garbage QBs then. All you have to do is hit the click button.
The dude started 15 games in 1993 with 7 TDs
Probably time to grab a beer
Yea the quality of QB play in the league was pretty damn poor around that time. Outside of a few truly elite guys.
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Once again who cares? Nobody, literally nobody is arguing on behalf of Ohio State QBs. You have no real defenses toward Harbaugh being a "elite QB" so all you do is fire at the schools people mocking you are fans of. Poor deflection tactics.
someone locked this poor kid in a closet and has Hail to the Victors on repeat