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redseat said:
Honestly I do not pay much attention to what is or isn't said here so I guess I totally missed it
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redseat said:
Downtown still exisits?
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despite what people in rural Minnesota think, yes, still there

It'll have to reshape itself, which it has done in the past, but still going along. Theater district, Target Field, Target Center. I spend more time in the North Loop with is Downtown Adjacent, but for our anniversary we have a nice hotel booked and a steakhouse downtown
 
redseat said:
Honestly I do not pay much attention to what is or isn't said here so I guess I totally missed it
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He routinely shits on Minnesota and Minneapolis in particular, often with a political slant

But yet him and his girlfriend routinely travel from Fargo to Minneapolis/St Paul for sporting events and who knows what else
 
PnkPanther said:
despite what people in rural Minnesota think, yes, still there

It'll have to reshape itself, which it has done in the past, but still going along. Theater district, Target Field, Target Center. I spend more time in the North Loop with is Downtown Adjacent, but for our anniversary we have a nice hotel booked and a steakhouse downtown
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I am glad things are starting to turn around for the better there. Hope it continues
 
redseat said:
I am glad things are starting to turn around for the better there. Hope it continues
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It had and certainly still has problems, but overblown by people who don't go there and see news story or two. Some act if you step foot anywhere in Minneapolis you have a 100% of being victim of crime

The biggest thing is how to rebound from work from home and impact on business, that's a lot of happy hours, work lunches, etc no longer happening

I took my mom to highly rated Pizza place in South Minneapolis (which is very nice, expensive, low crime area) and told her she can tell old ladies back in AZ she braved the brutal gang violence in Minneapolis to get some Pizza

(she had a good time, but she bitched non stop about the 18% added they use to pay higher wages, I do tip less in places that do that, if you're getting a higher wage, I shouldn't need to tip)
 
PnkPanther said:
(she had a good time, but she bitched non stop about the 18% added they use to pay higher wages, I do tip less in places that do that, if you're getting a higher wage, I shouldn't need to tip)
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What? They do that even with a small party? I've seen "if you have a party of 8 or more, an 18% gratuity will automatically be added to your bill," but I've never seen that for every check.

I wouldn't tip shit in that case. You want to take 18% for your servers, that's fine, but that's all they're getting.
 
SlinkyRedfoot said:
What? They do that even with a small party? I've seen "if you have a party of 8 or more, an 18% gratuity will automatically be added to your bill," but I've never seen that for every check.

I wouldn't tip shit in that case. You want to take 18% for your servers, that's fine, but that's all they're getting.
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PnkPanther said:
It had and certainly still has problems, but overblown by people who don't go there and see news story or two. Some act if you step foot anywhere in Minneapolis you have a 100% of being victim of crime

The biggest thing is how to rebound from work from home and impact on business, that's a lot of happy hours, work lunches, etc no longer happening

I took my mom to highly rated Pizza place in South Minneapolis (which is very nice, expensive, low crime area) and told her she can tell old ladies back in AZ she braved the brutal gang violence in Minneapolis to get some Pizza

(she had a good time, but she bitched non stop about the 18% added they use to pay higher wages, I do tip less in places that do that, if you're getting a higher wage, I shouldn't need to tip)
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Media loves to stir shit up
 
SlinkyRedfoot said:
What? They do that even with a small party? I've seen "if you have a party of 8 or more, an 18% gratuity will automatically be added to your bill," but I've never seen that for every check.

I wouldn't tip shit in that case. You want to take 18% for your servers, that's fine, but that's all they're getting.
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Yes, it's not a gratuity, it goes to supporting higher wages and benefits for the staff, but specifically not a "tip". They have to disclose and say it's not a tip and each restaurant does it different. Some that use don't allow for additional tipping, some still allow for tipping, some don't use and just use old system so it confuses and annoys customers. It was a way to address the pay divide between the back and front of the house, but results are mixed. I don't sweat it too much. I feel if restaurant just raised their price 18% and did same thing, there would be less people bitching despite bill being exact same amount (I'm sure there is tax incentive to do it way they're doing it though)

Personally I would like to get rid of gratuity/tipping all together and just pay people fair wages, few restaurants here have tried that and it hasn't worked and most go back to tipping system. One restaurant briefly tried tip line for Bar/Waitstaff and a tip line for Kitchen, but that just confused people even more and it last about 2 weeks

I've talked to few bartenders/servers to get their feelings and it's a bit mixed. One said overall they made similar on higher wages, but their big earning nights were gone so sometimes feels like less, but they forget about the days where they made next to nothing on tips. The biggest drawback for servers was their full wages were taxed as they under reported their cash tips.

Boomers get very upset by it all


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PnkPanther said:
Yes, it's not a gratuity, it goes to supporting higher wages and benefits for the staff, but specifically not a "tip". They have to disclose and say it's not a tip and each restaurant does it different. Some that use don't allow for additional tipping, some still allow for tipping, some don't use and just use old system so it confuses and annoys customers. It was a way to address the pay divide between the back and front of the house, but results are mixed. I don't sweat it too much. I feel if restaurant just raised their price 18% and did same thing, there would be less people bitching despite bill being exact same amount (I'm sure there is tax incentive to do it way they're doing it though)

Personally I would like to get rid of gratuity/tipping all together and just pay people fair wages, few restaurants here have tried that and it hasn't worked and most go back to tipping system. One restaurant briefly tried tip line for Bar/Waitstaff and a tip line for Kitchen, but that just confused people even more and it last about 2 weeks

I've talked to few bartenders/servers to get their feelings and it's a bit mixed. One said overall they made similar on higher wages, but their big earning nights were gone so sometimes feels like less, but they forget about the days where they made next to nothing on tips. The biggest drawback for servers was their full wages were taxed as they under reported their cash tips.

Boomers get very upset by it all


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I don't get very upset about it, but it all seems dumb as fuck. If a restaurant tells me they're charging me an extra 18% for the servers, I'm not tipping, whether they say it's specifically not a tip or not. It's a tip.

If a restaurant can't afford to pay its employees, raise the prices or lower the costs and let the market decide. Don't bring me into that any further than I already am.

COVID encouraged a lot of businesses to start acting like fucks and so far, we've mostly allowed them to do so. Places that are completely cashless? Fuck them.
 
SlinkyRedfoot said:
I don't get very upset about it, but it all seems dumb as fuck. If a restaurant tells me they're charging me an extra 18% for the servers, I'm not tipping, whether they say it's specifically not a tip or not. It's a tip.

If a restaurant can't afford to pay its employees, raise the prices or lower the costs and let the market decide. Don't bring me into that any further than I already am.

COVID encouraged a lot of businesses to start acting like fucks and so far, we've mostly allowed them to do so. Places that are completely cashless? Fuck them.
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And that's your right

Typically in those situations when they have full fee I only tip ~5-10%, I usually tip 20-25% so cover the gap. I don't penalize the server/bartender because restaurant adds fee to pay everyone higher wages. I also support the no-tip movement and just pay people their wage. I like restaurants that do that, but many that did went back to tipping as they lost good servers AND some customers didn't like the change.

I do agree it would be better to just raise the price and eliminate the confusion.

I'm also getting tired of people flipping the ipad over every purchase.
 
I'd also add, in Minnesota tips by law have to go to servers which is why the restaurant has to specifically say it's not a tip, they otherwise wouldn't be able to use it as a pool to pay higher wages for back staff. I believe some restaurants actually use it as a pool for all employees as well. Restaurants have had to find new ways to get employees and pay them more, probably why most beers are now at least $8.....Oh, I miss my 5 dollar pitchers in college

Each restaurant does it a little different, which only adds to confusion
 
Fuck all that shit.

Put your prices on your menu, I'll decide if I want to buy anything off of it, and I'll tip the wait staff an appropriate percentage based on their service.
 
PnkPanther said:
I'd also add, in Minnesota tips by law have to go to servers which is why the restaurant has to specifically say it's not a tip, they otherwise wouldn't be able to use it as a pool to pay higher wages for back staff. I believe some restaurants actually use it as a pool for all employees as well. Restaurants have had to find new ways to get employees and pay them more, probably why most beers are now at least $8.....Oh, I miss my 5 dollar pitchers in college

Each restaurant does it a little different, which only adds to confusion
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MN has a law for this?
 
SlinkyRedfoot said:
Fuck all that shit.

Put your prices on your menu, I'll decide if I want to buy anything off of it, and I'll tip the wait staff an appropriate percentage based on their service.
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He's not joking either. I once saw Slink bring an entire line of HS students to tears at Chipotle
 
PnkPanther said:
I'd also add, in Minnesota tips by law have to go to servers which is why the restaurant has to specifically say it's not a tip, they otherwise wouldn't be able to use it as a pool to pay higher wages for back staff. I believe some restaurants actually use it as a pool for all employees as well. Restaurants have had to find new ways to get employees and pay them more, probably why most beers are now at least $8.....Oh, I miss my 5 dollar pitchers in college

Each restaurant does it a little different, which only adds to confusion
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75 cent pint night was awesome for me back in college (2001-2005 - so NO I am not old)
 
What pisses me off now a days is everyone has those white tablets that they flip over and ask you what percentage you want to tip!

FUCK that! I am not tipping you for reaching behind you and grabbing a already made bucket of popcorn or chicken!
 
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