Last movie you watched and rating (1-10)

Cheaper by the Dozen

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has a couple of funny moments, but most of it is painful and drags out. Anytime I find myself asking "how much time is left" it's an instant 5 points off the score.
 
But until GWH, Williams basically played the same character every time out (I know there are exceptions Like 1 Hour Photo). GWH opened doors for him, sure, but he was already a hugely popular big star when that came out.

if you want to include Williams, you could include Lesley Nielsen or Robert Deniro who both rebooted their careers as comedians late in life.
Long before GWH, he was in Awakenings and The Fisher King.

And Deniro has made comedy movies, but definitely wouldn't call him a comedian, and he didn't start in TV.
 
Long before GWH, he was in Awakenings and The Fisher King.

And Deniro has made comedy movies, but definitely wouldn't call him a comedian, and he didn't start in TV.
Dead Poets too
 
But until GWH, Williams basically played the same character every time out (I know there are exceptions Like 1 Hour Photo). GWH opened doors for him, sure, but he was already a hugely popular big star when that came out.

if you want to include Williams, you could include Lesley Nielsen or Robert Deniro who both rebooted their careers as comedians late in life.
Have to disagree on GWH. That wasn’t his first dramatic role with significance. Dead Poets Society, Awakenings....these was many years before GWH. And while they aren’t quite on the same level for performance or recognition he was nominated for best actor in 1989 for Dead Poets.

My point is that Robin might have been one of the biggest ones to overcome a type cast rut. He kept taking all the zany Robin Williams type roles while keeping his ear out (and winning) roles that could highlight his dramatic chops. Hell, even a role like Good Morning Vietnam he came in to play his zany role and still made the most of more serious moments to highlight his ability to play the dramatic.

GWH was just to culmination of 10-15 years of rolling with the type casting while working his way into broader roles.
 
Long before GWH, he was in Awakenings and The Fisher King.

And Deniro has made comedy movies, but definitely wouldn't call him a comedian, and he didn't start in TV.
Fuck. Now you ninja’d me. Ha
 
Have to disagree on GWH. That wasn’t his first dramatic role with significance. Dead Poets Society, Awakenings....these was many years before GWH. And while they aren’t quite on the same level for performance or recognition he was nominated for best actor in 1989 for Dead Poets.

My point is that Robin might have been one of the biggest ones to overcome a type cast rut. He kept taking all the zany Robin Williams type roles while keeping his ear out (and winning) roles that could highlight his dramatic chops. Hell, even a role like Good Morning Vietnam he came in to play his zany role and still made the most of more serious moments to highlight his ability to play the dramatic.

GWH was just to culmination of 10-15 years of rolling with the type casting while working his way into broader roles.
Sorry, so what is the question here? I haven't read all of the posts, but are you guys talking about actors that successfully transitioned from TV to movies?
 
Have to disagree on GWH. That wasn’t his first dramatic role with significance. Dead Poets Society, Awakenings....these was many years before GWH. And while they aren’t quite on the same level for performance or recognition he was nominated for best actor in 1989 for Dead Poets.

My point is that Robin might have been one of the biggest ones to overcome a type cast rut. He kept taking all the zany Robin Williams type roles while keeping his ear out (and winning) roles that could highlight his dramatic chops. Hell, even a role like Good Morning Vietnam he came in to play his zany role and still made the most of more serious moments to highlight his ability to play the dramatic.

GWH was just to culmination of 10-15 years of rolling with the type casting while working his way into broader roles.
It's funny that my comment spawned this discussion, as it was ostensibly rhetorical in nature. lel

I think Williams may be the best competition yet, though I doubt there were many that doubted his talent or potential at the time, as he was a well-known comedian.

For some reason, when I think of the word "typecast", Woody is all that comes to mind. :noidea: Being in a TV comedy is not enough IMO. Being the zaniest character, in a LONG-RUNNING, top-rated show is what I think of. Like if Kramer went on to be Daniel Day Lewis er some shit. :lol:

Most actors generally start on TV, and certainly many of those stand far from their roots now, but for some odd reason not many seem to fit my idea of the word for some reason I can't really even explain?:think: :noidea:
 
This guy did that pretty well.

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he had a 1 season run at the tail end of a long running sitcom. And many don’t even remember he was there.

And I seem to remember at the time that he was a highly touted new talent and Growing Pains was used as a vehicle to get him out there. I don’t think it was much after his stint of GP that WEGG came out. In fact, it may be that WEGG was already in the can and they used GP as a marketing tool for the movie??



(I understand you weren’t proposing him seriously)
 
he had a 1 season run at the tail end of a long running sitcom. And many don’t even remember he was there.

And I seem to remember at the time that he was a highly touted new talent and Growing Pains was used as a vehicle to get him out there. I don’t think it was much after his stint of GP that WEGG came out. In fact, it may be that WEGG was already in the can and they used GP as a marketing tool for the movie??



(I understand you weren’t proposing him seriously)

I didn't know all of that was a stipulation. I just thought actors who were on TV before being in movies.

I thought of Leo right away.

It's weird, when I was young, I hated him (I was in HS when Titanic came out), but now I think he's one of the best actors ever.
 
It's funny that my comment spawned this discussion, as it was ostensibly rhetorical in nature. lel

I think Williams may be the best competition yet, though I doubt there were many that doubted his talent or potential at the time, as he was a well-known comedian.

For some reason, when I think of the word "typecast", Woody is all that comes to mind. :noidea: Being in a TV comedy is not enough IMO. Being the zaniest character, in a LONG-RUNNING, top-rated show is what I think of. Like if Kramer went on to be Daniel Day Lewis er some shit. :lol:

Most actors generally start on TV, and certainly many of those stand far from their roots now, but for some odd reason not many seem to fit my idea of the word for some reason I can't really even explain?:think: :noidea:

Tyler Perry is another one and he went the other way and did it with the same role. He took the comedic and slapstick Madea off of the big screen and really humanized her for television, showing dramatic skills on the tube that weren't appropriate for "Boo! A Madea Hallowe'en". That's how you become a fucking legend.

What font/colour do I put that in again?
 
Sorry, so what is the question here? I haven't read all of the posts, but are you guys talking about actors that successfully transitioned from TV to movies?
Started with actors in TV who avoided being typecast and moved into movies. Woody might be the best example there.

We’ve kind of suffered from scope creep since that point
 
It's funny that my comment spawned this discussion, as it was ostensibly rhetorical in nature. lel

I think Williams may be the best competition yet, though I doubt there were many that doubted his talent or potential at the time, as he was a well-known comedian.

For some reason, when I think of the word "typecast", Woody is all that comes to mind. :noidea: Being in a TV comedy is not enough IMO. Being the zaniest character, in a LONG-RUNNING, top-rated show is what I think of. Like if Kramer went on to be Daniel Day Lewis er some shit. :lol:

Most actors generally start on TV, and certainly many of those stand far from their roots now, but for some odd reason not many seem to fit my idea of the word for some reason I can't really even explain?:think: :noidea:
Boredom does things like this. I’ve forsaken the Pf and not a college basketball fan. Baseball hasn’t started yet, footballs in the doldrums. Etc.

I think you were right on with Woody as an example of a guy known for one thing (lovable goof) and who avoided that to turn in a good career.

Remembering the craziest part....people LOVED coach. When he died anyone that was going to replace him was going to have a tough sell. And here comes Woody out of no where and he did it, even with the same shtick as coach (lovable idiot)
 
Started with actors in TV who avoided being typecast and moved into movies. Woody might be the best example there.

We’ve kind of suffered from scope creep since that point
How are you defining "avoided being typecast"?
 
How are you defining "avoided being typecast"?
I didn’t make the initial claim on the topic, @beardown07 did. I just helped blow the topic way out of scope. I believe the original premise was actors that avoided being type cast after a successful tv show and worked into movies (Woody Harrelson being maybe the best example). From there we’ve just been riffing.

At this point I think we are just going with “didn’t get locked into the same role they played in TV”.
 
I didn’t make the initial claim on the topic, @beardown07 did. I just helped blow the topic way out of scope. I believe the original premise was actors that avoided being type cast after a successful tv show and worked into movies (Woody Harrelson being maybe the best example). From there we’ve just been riffing.

At this point I think we are just going with “didn’t get locked into the same role they played in TV”.
Ok.

Joseph Gordon Levitt and Ryan Gosling started on TV I believe and they both branched out into way different things. If that fits lol. Not sure what makes Woody such a great example, he has definitely done a lot of different stuff - much different than his character on Cheers, but he has also done a fair amount that would be somewhat similar as well.
 
Ok.

Joseph Gordon Levitt and Ryan Gosling started on TV I believe and they both branched out into way different things. If that fits lol. Not sure what makes Woody such a great example, he has definitely done a lot of different stuff - much different than his character on Cheers, but he has also done a fair amount that would be somewhat similar as well.
Good examples. For me the difference is Levitt was a kid when on TV. Can’t be type cast as something physically you grow out of. Gosling....I’m looking over his IMDB. I see the TV earlier in his career as a teen, but I don’t recognize anything definitive.

An interesting idea that popped to mind with Levitt....childhood stars that actually grew up not a basket case and had good careers. We can all make long lists of the child actor disasters, but what about the opposite?

Fuck, I’m hijacking this thread.....
 
Good examples. For me the difference is Levitt was a kid when on TV. Can’t be type cast as something physically you grow out of. Gosling....I’m looking over his IMDB. I see the TV earlier in his career as a teen, but I don’t recognize anything definitive.

An interesting idea that popped to mind with Levitt....childhood stars that actually grew up not a basket case and had good careers. We can all make long lists of the child actor disasters, but what about the opposite?

Fuck, I’m hijacking this thread.....
In that case, DiCaprio has to be #1. With the two I mentioned making the list as well....

Natalie Portman
Scarlett Johanson - I remember her as a teen I think.
Christian Bale
Drew Barrymore - she had her problems, but she has kept working and found some good roles over the years. She'd at least be borderline lol.
 
Good examples. For me the difference is Levitt was a kid when on TV. Can’t be type cast as something physically you grow out of. Gosling....I’m looking over his IMDB. I see the TV earlier in his career as a teen, but I don’t recognize anything definitive.

An interesting idea that popped to mind with Levitt....childhood stars that actually grew up not a basket case and had good careers. We can all make long lists of the child actor disasters, but what about the opposite?

Fuck, I’m hijacking this thread.....
Lulz. Yer hijacking the hijacked. :lol:
 
In that case, DiCaprio has to be #1. With the two I mentioned making the list as well....

Natalie Portman
Scarlett Johanson - I remember her as a teen I think.
Christian Bale
Drew Barrymore - she had her problems, but she has kept working and found some good roles over the years. She'd at least be borderline lol.
That creates a whole new discussion. I would nod to all of them. We get inundated with the kids from Different Strokes, Macaulay Culkin, Lindsay Lohan, etc. All the horror stories of children being actors and being fucked up.

We’ve clearly learned that being a child actor is a fucking minefield of possibly traumatic experiences....whether it’s just the job, how parents treat them like a cash cow and not a child, or worse.

For worse....read up on Dan Schneider and the latest generation of kids he’s fucked up. Top of that list...Amanda Bynes decline makes more sense now.

Digressing....I like a discussion on all the kids who came through. Drew Barrymore actually had that “will she spin out” moment in her teens....I remember Poison Ivy well. But, she got it back together. And good thing too....I heart her.

Are you putting Leo #1 because of the heights he’s reached? I have to say....the first I remember him from was Gilbert Grape (in which he was amazing). I don’t remember him from the tail years of Growinf Pains and am only aware of this because it’s come up since his ascension as an adult.
 
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