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Long before GWH, he was in Awakenings and The Fisher King.But until GWH, Williams basically played the same character every time out (I know there are exceptions Like 1 Hour Photo). GWH opened doors for him, sure, but he was already a hugely popular big star when that came out.
if you want to include Williams, you could include Lesley Nielsen or Robert Deniro who both rebooted their careers as comedians late in life.
Dead Poets tooLong before GWH, he was in Awakenings and The Fisher King.
And Deniro has made comedy movies, but definitely wouldn't call him a comedian, and he didn't start in TV.
Have to disagree on GWH. That wasn’t his first dramatic role with significance. Dead Poets Society, Awakenings....these was many years before GWH. And while they aren’t quite on the same level for performance or recognition he was nominated for best actor in 1989 for Dead Poets.But until GWH, Williams basically played the same character every time out (I know there are exceptions Like 1 Hour Photo). GWH opened doors for him, sure, but he was already a hugely popular big star when that came out.
if you want to include Williams, you could include Lesley Nielsen or Robert Deniro who both rebooted their careers as comedians late in life.
Fuck. Now you ninja’d me. HaLong before GWH, he was in Awakenings and The Fisher King.
And Deniro has made comedy movies, but definitely wouldn't call him a comedian, and he didn't start in TV.
Sorry, so what is the question here? I haven't read all of the posts, but are you guys talking about actors that successfully transitioned from TV to movies?Have to disagree on GWH. That wasn’t his first dramatic role with significance. Dead Poets Society, Awakenings....these was many years before GWH. And while they aren’t quite on the same level for performance or recognition he was nominated for best actor in 1989 for Dead Poets.
My point is that Robin might have been one of the biggest ones to overcome a type cast rut. He kept taking all the zany Robin Williams type roles while keeping his ear out (and winning) roles that could highlight his dramatic chops. Hell, even a role like Good Morning Vietnam he came in to play his zany role and still made the most of more serious moments to highlight his ability to play the dramatic.
GWH was just to culmination of 10-15 years of rolling with the type casting while working his way into broader roles.
It's funny that my comment spawned this discussion, as it was ostensibly rhetorical in nature. lelHave to disagree on GWH. That wasn’t his first dramatic role with significance. Dead Poets Society, Awakenings....these was many years before GWH. And while they aren’t quite on the same level for performance or recognition he was nominated for best actor in 1989 for Dead Poets.
My point is that Robin might have been one of the biggest ones to overcome a type cast rut. He kept taking all the zany Robin Williams type roles while keeping his ear out (and winning) roles that could highlight his dramatic chops. Hell, even a role like Good Morning Vietnam he came in to play his zany role and still made the most of more serious moments to highlight his ability to play the dramatic.
GWH was just to culmination of 10-15 years of rolling with the type casting while working his way into broader roles.
he had a 1 season run at the tail end of a long running sitcom. And many don’t even remember he was there.
he had a 1 season run at the tail end of a long running sitcom. And many don’t even remember he was there.
And I seem to remember at the time that he was a highly touted new talent and Growing Pains was used as a vehicle to get him out there. I don’t think it was much after his stint of GP that WEGG came out. In fact, it may be that WEGG was already in the can and they used GP as a marketing tool for the movie??
(I understand you weren’t proposing him seriously)
It's funny that my comment spawned this discussion, as it was ostensibly rhetorical in nature. lel
I think Williams may be the best competition yet, though I doubt there were many that doubted his talent or potential at the time, as he was a well-known comedian.
For some reason, when I think of the word "typecast", Woody is all that comes to mind.Being in a TV comedy is not enough IMO. Being the zaniest character, in a LONG-RUNNING, top-rated show is what I think of. Like if Kramer went on to be Daniel Day Lewis er some shit.
Most actors generally start on TV, and certainly many of those stand far from their roots now, but for some odd reason not many seem to fit my idea of the word for some reason I can't really even explain?![]()
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Started with actors in TV who avoided being typecast and moved into movies. Woody might be the best example there.Sorry, so what is the question here? I haven't read all of the posts, but are you guys talking about actors that successfully transitioned from TV to movies?
Boredom does things like this. I’ve forsaken the Pf and not a college basketball fan. Baseball hasn’t started yet, footballs in the doldrums. Etc.It's funny that my comment spawned this discussion, as it was ostensibly rhetorical in nature. lel
I think Williams may be the best competition yet, though I doubt there were many that doubted his talent or potential at the time, as he was a well-known comedian.
For some reason, when I think of the word "typecast", Woody is all that comes to mind.Being in a TV comedy is not enough IMO. Being the zaniest character, in a LONG-RUNNING, top-rated show is what I think of. Like if Kramer went on to be Daniel Day Lewis er some shit.
Most actors generally start on TV, and certainly many of those stand far from their roots now, but for some odd reason not many seem to fit my idea of the word for some reason I can't really even explain?![]()
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How are you defining "avoided being typecast"?Started with actors in TV who avoided being typecast and moved into movies. Woody might be the best example there.
We’ve kind of suffered from scope creep since that point
I didn’t make the initial claim on the topic, @beardown07 did. I just helped blow the topic way out of scope. I believe the original premise was actors that avoided being type cast after a successful tv show and worked into movies (Woody Harrelson being maybe the best example). From there we’ve just been riffing.How are you defining "avoided being typecast"?
Ok.I didn’t make the initial claim on the topic, @beardown07 did. I just helped blow the topic way out of scope. I believe the original premise was actors that avoided being type cast after a successful tv show and worked into movies (Woody Harrelson being maybe the best example). From there we’ve just been riffing.
At this point I think we are just going with “didn’t get locked into the same role they played in TV”.
Good examples. For me the difference is Levitt was a kid when on TV. Can’t be type cast as something physically you grow out of. Gosling....I’m looking over his IMDB. I see the TV earlier in his career as a teen, but I don’t recognize anything definitive.Ok.
Joseph Gordon Levitt and Ryan Gosling started on TV I believe and they both branched out into way different things. If that fits lol. Not sure what makes Woody such a great example, he has definitely done a lot of different stuff - much different than his character on Cheers, but he has also done a fair amount that would be somewhat similar as well.
In that case, DiCaprio has to be #1. With the two I mentioned making the list as well....Good examples. For me the difference is Levitt was a kid when on TV. Can’t be type cast as something physically you grow out of. Gosling....I’m looking over his IMDB. I see the TV earlier in his career as a teen, but I don’t recognize anything definitive.
An interesting idea that popped to mind with Levitt....childhood stars that actually grew up not a basket case and had good careers. We can all make long lists of the child actor disasters, but what about the opposite?
Fuck, I’m hijacking this thread.....
Lulz. Yer hijacking the hijacked.Good examples. For me the difference is Levitt was a kid when on TV. Can’t be type cast as something physically you grow out of. Gosling....I’m looking over his IMDB. I see the TV earlier in his career as a teen, but I don’t recognize anything definitive.
An interesting idea that popped to mind with Levitt....childhood stars that actually grew up not a basket case and had good careers. We can all make long lists of the child actor disasters, but what about the opposite?
Fuck, I’m hijacking this thread.....
That creates a whole new discussion. I would nod to all of them. We get inundated with the kids from Different Strokes, Macaulay Culkin, Lindsay Lohan, etc. All the horror stories of children being actors and being fucked up.In that case, DiCaprio has to be #1. With the two I mentioned making the list as well....
Natalie Portman
Scarlett Johanson - I remember her as a teen I think.
Christian Bale
Drew Barrymore - she had her problems, but she has kept working and found some good roles over the years. She'd at least be borderline lol.