MLB may have a deal in place.......

OregonDucks said:
Unfortunately they years they were supposed to be good he was hurt for 5 months out of the season
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The years they were supposed to be good, they made the playoffs early in his career. The Angels have had shit for pitching for years
 
I guess there's no good news today. Damnit.
 
Big Al Rogorson said:
I guess there's no good news today. Damnit.
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Illustrious Potentate said:
Baseball might really be dead this time. Braves the infinite champs
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IMO I felt baseball had a ton of momentum last season. Could've carried that momentum into the upcoming years. Last year for the first time since the late 90's I was actually following the game. This is a terrible time for them to have this issue because I think it will turn fans away, especially the casual ones.
 
OregonDucks said:
IMO I felt baseball had a ton of momentum last season. Could've carried that momentum into the upcoming years. Last year for the first time since the late 90's I was actually following the game. This is a terrible time for them to have this issue because I think it will turn fans away, especially the casual ones.
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None of these guys were even alive in 1994. Thanks to that strike, the whole season was locked out, and the return of baseball was marred by assholes like Sosa and McGwire having a roided up dinger-fest.

Screw baseball, with its overpriced beer and overrated $30 mil/yr bums. If this season is wiped out, I hope the sport dies.
 
Mofo said:
None of these guys were even alive in 1994. Thanks to that strike, the whole season was locked out, and the return of baseball was marred by assholes like Sosa and McGwire having a roided up dinger-fest.

Screw baseball, with its overpriced beer and overrated $30 mil/yr bums. If this season is wiped out, I hope the sport dies.
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Those guys saved baseball. If it wasn't for that home run chase i dont think baseball fully recovers from that lockout.

Baseball players IMO get paid a ridiculous amount of cash and a lot of these guys who get paid the mega bucks sit out months at a time.
 
OregonDucks said:
Those guys saved baseball. If it wasn't for that home run chase i dont think baseball fully recovers from that lockout.

Baseball players IMO get paid a ridiculous amount of cash and a lot of these guys who get paid the mega bucks sit out months at a time.
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...until it came back to bite them in the ass with all the PED revelations. A sport's got to have at least some semblance of integrity.

I agree that the agents have pushed to economics of the game to unsustainable levels. What's lost in all this negotiation is that fans will be screwed and are just expected to pay more for a shittier experience. Yeah, let's have more homeruns, bat flips, strikeouts and 7-inning games, but definitely more Manny Machados and Prince Fielders. The NFL got all the press about being a monopoly, but truly no pro sport is more crooked than MLB.
 
OregonDucks said:
Baseball players IMO get paid a ridiculous amount of cash and a lot of these guys who get paid the mega bucks sit out months at a time.
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Meanwhile many American workers are lucky to get a dollar per hour wage increase.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Players want the owners to quit crying poverty while also flouting record revenues for TV deals.

Owners are treating the CBT as a cap without a floor, and then gaming the shit out of roster construction to limit the arbitration eligibility of players so they can pay them less for longer.

Average salary is down half a million from 2017. The guys at the top are getting theirs, but the guys at the bottom are getting hosed. Owners have also cut minor league jobs, and are considering further cuts.

Owners now have basically decided not to play the first few weeks, because they don't have to start returning TV money until about 20 games are missed. They're fine with moving Opening Day because the fans will still show up for the first game. They lose a few shitty gates, get to dock the players for missing games, and pocket more money.

Also, fuck a 14-team playoff.
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The average salary deal was pretty striking to me and yes the entire structure of that is messed. Where I feel the players need adjustment is in the enormous deals handed to the top 2 percent. They virtually never pay off for the club and it takes money from the middle. If they were willing to budge on those I think you would see gains made for the other 98 percent.
 
stakesarehigh said:
The average salary deal was pretty striking to me and yes the entire structure of that is messed. Where I feel the players need adjustment is in the enormous deals handed to the top 2 percent. They virtually never pay off for the club and it takes money from the middle. If they were willing to budge on those I think you would see gains made for the other 98 percent.
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The problem with the megadeals is that it takes two to tango. Owners are more than willing to pay for 5 years of big numbers and 2-5 years of declining ones. I do personally think that deals shouldn't be more than 5 years, but if the owners are going to sign those deals, why shouldn't the players ask for them?
 
Guy Incognito said:
The problem with the megadeals is that it takes two to tango. Owners are more than willing to pay for 5 years of big numbers and 2-5 years of declining ones. I do personally think that deals shouldn't be more than 5 years, but if the owners are going to sign those deals, why shouldn't the players ask for them?
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You have to protect the owners from themselves in that case. As a trade off a minimum salary floor should be enacted. I know it won't happen but it's why the logistics of baseball contracts is more fucked up than other sports. The relationship between the NBA and NFL players associations and their owners are much more symbiotic.
 
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