More Michigan Cheating

stakesarehigh said:
I just really feel like that is asking for a lot

Especially for a first year guy
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That's what you get paid the big bucks for.

If you can investigate it in a month, and it turns out to be true, you bitch slap them. It's really simple. He has the authority to do that. Look this directly affects the competitive balance in this current year. To kick it down the road a few years is one of the problems the NCAA has always had. Then you are penalizing the wrong people.

As an attorney and do some quick thinking, I'd do this:

1. I want you to provide me with every thing you have about Stalions.
2. I want access to all cell phones, cell phone records, laptops, and every other mode of communication.
3. I want access to all bank accounts in any way related to the athletic department.
4. And, so on.

If they hesitate for one second. One "well, we don't think you are entitled to that" type of moment and I'd say fine, I'll rule with what I have. I'd vacate all their wins in 2021, 2022, and 2023, and disqualify them from post-season this year. I'd suspend the HC, and anyone else that had any knowledge of it.

This has been going on for a couple of weeks. They have intel from before. They have intel now.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
That's what you get paid the big bucks for.

If you can investigate it in a month, and it turns out to be true, you bitch slap them. It's really simple. He has the authority to do that. Look this directly affects the competitive balance in this current year. To kick it down the road a few years is one of the problems the NCAA has always had. Then you are penalizing the wrong people.

As an attorney and do some quick thinking, I'd do this:

1. I want you to provide me with every thing you have about Stalions.
2. I want access to all cell phones, cell phone records, laptops, and every other mode of communication.
3. I want access to all bank accounts in any way related to the athletic department.
4. And, so on.

If they hesitate for one second. One "well, we don't think you are entitled to that" type of moment and I'd say fine, I'll rule with what I have. I'd vacate all their wins in 2021, 2022, and 2023, and disqualify them from post-season this year. I'd suspend the HC, and anyone else that had any knowledge of it.

This has been going on for a couple of weeks. They have intel from before. They have intel now.
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I think the longer the NCAA and B1G stay silent the worse it is for Michigan. If there was really "nothing to see here" I think all of this woulda ended fairly quickly.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
"Yeah, we cheated, but it's up to the other guys to waste their valuable time and energy to adapt to our cheating."
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I can't say we cheated or we didn't ... my day is too busy to worry about such things. If you know someone is cheating and you choose to whine about it and not combat on the field, I have no pity for you. Regardless of the outcome ... I am still a Michigan fan. GO BLUE!!!! See you in the Championship Game (hopefully).
 
Voltaire said:
I don't know ... seems kinda dumb ... Michigan is stealing our signs, but we can't change them. Apparently, TCU did.
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You assume everyone knew the cheaters were cheating. Only after if was exposed did the other Universities check ticket sales and stadium video tape.
 
Huskers4me said:
You assume everyone knew the cheaters were cheating. Only after if was exposed did the other Universities check ticket sales and stadium video tape.
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Alleged cheaters. It appears that TCU knew it, and they were prepared. Why wasn't Nebraska prepared?
 
Voltaire said:
Alleged cheaters. It appears that TCU knew it, and they were prepared. Why wasn't Nebraska prepared?
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Well, one team had a week to prepare, the other had a month.

Is this really your excuse ... we cheated but you should have adjusted to our cheating. Jeezus.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Well, one team had a week to prepare, the other had a month.

Is this really your excuse ... we cheated but you should have adjusted to our cheating. Jeezus.
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Lol that's like a casino saying players who got cheated by a card counter "SHOULDA CAME MORE PREPARED!" instead of booting the card counter.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
What exactly has he won? No Super Bowl, no NC in CFB. It's highly likely his two B1G championships will be forfeited, or they will carry an asterisk for everyone other than delusional UM fans. He's a weirdo who basically wears out his welcome wherever he goes, and has never won the big one.
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He took over San Diego, who had never won a conference title and in year 2 and 3 they won their conference. He went to Stanford, who was 1-11 and he turned them around where they went 12-1 and won the Orange Bowl within 4 years. He went to the 49ers, who hadn't had a winning record in over a decade and he went 44-19-1 with 3 division titles, a conference title and super bowl appearance. He came to Michigan when we were terrible and we have won back to back B1G titles and back to back CFP appearances.

The guy is definitely out there, but he is a helluva football coach and while he rubs those in charge the wrong way -- his players absolutely love him.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Lol that's like a casino saying players who got cheated by a card counter "SHOULDA CAME MORE PREPARED!" instead of booting the card counter.
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Huh? A card counter isn't going to cheat the players. A card counter simply bases his wagers on what the count is.
 
Voltaire said:
Alleged cheaters. It appears that TCU knew it, and they were prepared. Why wasn't Nebraska prepared?
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Is there some TCU - Nebraska connection that you’re alluding to that no one knows about? You think every University Athletic Department in America Communicates with each other? It seems according to you that TCU knew fuckery was going on but didn’t know how it was happening or it would have been exposed through what? EVIDENCE. To assume every team in the country knew Michigan was cheating is quite childish.
 
Voltaire said:
For your convenience, we should eliminate the Michigan Wolverines Football team. Eliminate them for stealing signs - not electronically, not stealing a playbook - , but stealing signs that are given on the field of play in front of a crowd of spectators. WTF? A foot that knew this was happening and was too stupid to change their signals. No one says we should have radio communications like they have in the NFL or MLB. Before radio communications, and catcher suspected someone was stealing his signs, he would go out to the mound and change signs. What is wrong with our universities?
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Cheaters
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Huh? A card counter isn't going to cheat the players. A card counter simply bases his wagers on what the count is.
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Your team are Cheaters that cheated their way to back to back this and back to back that - be proud of cheating over integrity, honor, and fair play. Perhaps they could have done as well when not cheating but we’ll never know because cheaters cheat and deflect & deny from the honest truth.
 
Huskers4me said:
Is there some TCU - Nebraska connection that you’re alluding to that no one knows about? You think every University Athletic Department in America Communicates with each other? It seems according to you that TCU knew fuckery was going on but didn’t know how it was happening or it would have been exposed through what? EVIDENCE. To assume every team in the country knew Michigan was cheating is quite childish.
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Someone on this thread said that TCU and other teams knew Michigan was cheating … I am not looking through 2000+ posts. But is a team is cheating against me, I will let every other team know.
 
Voltaire said:
Someone on this thread said that TCU and other teams knew Michigan was cheating … I am not looking through 2000+ posts. But is a team is cheating against me, I will let every other team know.
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TCU had 4 weeks from the Big 12 title game to the CFP game to change everything up, and also Michigan didn't have nearly close the info on TCU that they had on their regular B1G opponents. So it was likely much easier for TCU to throw them off because of that.
 
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