More Michigan Cheating

WhosYourDawggy said:
No one thought to ask, "how do you have these plays on laminated sheets during the first drive of the game?"

It is their job to know the methods he used. If that is your excuse, that they didn't know, that's not get you very far.
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I would wager any amount of money that every team has some version of those in probably just as much detail. Somehow everyone ignored ours until now. They were in plain sight.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Just because they were incompetent cheats doesn't mean they weren't cheating.

Answer this ... why didn't the OC, DC, or HC ask, "where is this guy getting his info from?"

That's it ... answer that one question. They all knew this guy was (1) on the sideline - that's really odd if you know so much about football as you seem to imply others of us don't; (2) they knew he had good intel. Why didn't they ask that question?
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They likely would have known if they watched the videos in the film room when breaking down their upcoming opponent.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I would wager any amount of money that every team has some version of those in probably just as much detail. Somehow everyone ignored ours until now. They were in plain sight.
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Ah hah! The deny stage is over. We've moved into the everyone does it stage just as I predicted
 
Red_Alert said:
LOL

You're truly a brain-dead idiot homer. It's more you "hoping" it doesn't "happen".

"Tennessee avoided a bowl ban after the NCAA Committee on Infractions found the program responsible for more than 200 individual violations, including 18 Level I in nature. Former coach Jeremy Pruitt was hit with a six-year show cause order, while the university will face probation, vacated wins and scholarship reductions, among numerous other penalties.

In lieu of a bowl ban, the football program will be put on probation for five years, pay an $8 million fine and will be subject to an independent compliance review of the program each year. Additionally, there will be a legislated fine of $5,000, 3% of the football budget and an additional fine to recoup money earned while the program was ineligible during the 2020 Gator Bowl. The program must also vacate 11 wins from the 2019-20 seasons."

Plus "A six year show-cause for ex-coach Jeremy Pruitt."

www.cbssports.com

'Hundreds' of NCAA violations land Tennessee $8M fine plus six-year show cause for ex-coach Jeremy Pruitt

Tennessee will also lose 28 scholarships as a result of the NCAA concluding its investigation into the program
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You continue to throw shit at the wall to see if it sticks, and make other people prove you wrong.

Watch and Learn, homer.
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Right, so you just confirmed you can't read. Which, I knew.

But like I said, what you're suggesting will happen to Michigan didn't even happen in a case where Tennessee violated level 1 rules 200 times. Their major punishment was an asterisk, minor scholarship reductions and a laughable $8 million fine. And I'll repeat 200 level 1 violations.

If it's deemed Michigan broke these rules, the punishments won't even be in the ballpark of what you're suggesting. Hell, they might even be satisfied by the firing of the staffer. We don't even know if these rules would fall in level 1 or level 2 violations. Nor do we know how much evidence they'll be able to collect to conclude when and where the violations happened.

At worst, Michigan gets slapped with a some level 1 violations, the staffer is fired, maybe some scholarship reductions (at most) and that's about it. probation? That's what I see the ceiling for this is. Any morons hoping for vacated wins are doing nothing but that, hoping because of their biases against Michigan....not because it's a legitimate conclusion based on the accused crime.
 
fishinabarrel said:
Ah hah! The deny stage is over. We've moved into the everyone does it stage just as I predicted
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Sign stealing is legal. Having stolen signs on the sidelines isn't evidence of anything. As discussed, every team attempts to sign steal.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Right, so you just confirmed you can't read. Which, I knew.

But like I said, what you're suggesting will happen to Michigan didn't even happen in a case where Tennessee violated level 1 rules 200 times. Their major punishment was an asterisk, minor scholarship reductions and a laughable $8 million fine. And I'll repeat 200 level 1 violations.
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"You can't read" and then proceeds to say something showing he didn't read.

It was only 18 level 1 violations
 
fishinabarrel said:
Ah hah! The deny stage is over. We've moved into the everyone does it stage just as I predicted
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Lol that or "BUT TENNESSEE!" or whoever else.

Paying recruits pre NIL illegal but what Michigan seems to have done here is definitely a major integrity of the competition issue.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Actually, it does. Boosters - you can find the definition - are the responsibility of the school. You also can't explain where he go the money. And, you can't explain why no one asked where he got the intel. You are being disingenuous at this point. And passing it on to another party brinngs in the concept of agency. Dude you are so screwed.
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The regulations on boosters in the NCAA Rulebook are almost exclusively applied to recruiting. They are not actually in any way connected to the scouting rules. #1. And #2, in order to be a booster there are a set list of like 5 items you would need to meet to be considered one. And just asking friends to go to games to record them would not qualify you as an athletics booster under the NCAA's own definition.

The money is also irrelevant. there's no NCAA rule against buying tickets for people or giving money to people to buy tickets for people.
 
fishinabarrel said:
"You can't read" and then proceeds to say something showing he didn't read.

It was only 18 level 1 violations
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Derp
www.ncaa.org

Hundreds of violations occurred in Tennessee football program over 3 seasons - NCAA.org

Over the course of three seasons, the Tennessee football program committed 18 Level I violations — encompassing more than 200 individual infractions — most of which
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Over the course of three seasons, the Tennessee football program committed 18 Level I violations — encompassing more than 200 individual infractions
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MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Right, so you just confirmed you can't read. Which, I knew.

But like I said, what you're suggesting will happen to Michigan didn't even happen in a case where Tennessee violated level 1 rules 200 times. Their major punishment was an asterisk, minor scholarship reductions and a laughable $8 million fine. And I'll repeat 200 level 1 violations.

If it's deemed Michigan broke these rules, the punishments won't even be in the ballpark of what you're suggesting. Hell, they might even be satisfied by the firing of the staffer. We don't even know if these rules would fall in level 1 or level 2 violations. Nor do we know how much evidence they'll be able to collect to conclude when and where the violations happened.

At worst, Michigan gets slapped with a some level 1 violations, the staffer is fired, maybe some scholarship reductions (at most) and that's about it. probation? That's what I see the ceiling for this is. Any morons hoping for vacated wins are doing nothing but that, hoping because of their biases against Michigan....not because it's a legitimate conclusion based on the accused crime.
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LMAO!!!

Hey knucklehead....

There are at least 60 violations that we know of here.

Watch and Learn.
 
fishinabarrel said:
And how many of those 200 were Level 1 violations? Bc you are quoted saying all 200 are Level 1.
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Literally all 200. There were 18 different level 1 violations, spanning 200 incidents.
 
fishinabarrel said:
Ah hah! The deny stage is over. We've moved into the everyone does it stage just as I predicted
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MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Sign stealing is legal. Having stolen signs on the sidelines isn't evidence of anything. As discussed, every team attempts to sign steal.
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Red_Alert said:
maze&blew will be back to denying anything was illegal in short order.

It's a circle of denial.

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MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
The regulations on boosters in the NCAA Rulebook are almost exclusively applied to recruiting. They are not actually in any way connected to the scouting rules. #1. And #2, in order to be a booster there are a set list of like 5 items you would need to meet to be considered one. And just asking friends to go to games to record them would not qualify you as an athletics booster under the NCAA's own definition.

The money is also irrelevant. there's no NCAA rule against buying tickets for people or giving money to people to buy tickets for people.
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LOL

TOLD YA!!
 
Red_Alert said:
LOL

TOLD YA!!!
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He quoted your post that said Tenn committed over 200 infractions, 18 of them level 1 and said "see 200 level 1 violations"

I call him out on it and he quotes a sentence again saying 200 violations 18 of them Level 1 as if he got me.

I don't know how to win an argument with that
 
Red_Alert said:
LMAO!!!

Hey knucklehead....

There are at least 60 violations that we know of here.

Watch and Learn.
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No, there wasn't. There have been 31 tickets purchased. And of those, you'd need to prove how many had people recording at them or video footage used. And of those, we don't even know if they would be categorized as level 1 infractions. And they'd all be grouped under only 1-2 level 1 infractions (depending if you want to argue that "recording signs" is a level 1 infraction and deemed a violation by the NCAA.

All in all there's no physical way for this to reach the scope of Tennessee and you're suggesting the punishment will be more severe.
 
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