More Michigan Cheating

So, what will happen here?

- I actually think this is going to be bigger than anyone thinks.

- I think it will keep UM out of the CFP.

- People will be fired, including Harbaugh.


The evidence that Michigan was using/benefitting from someone inside or outside the program traveling to future opponents games for the purpose of videoing their sideline signals is overwhelming.

Worst case scenario would be the NCAA vacating Michigan wins and titles over the last 2-3 seasons, and maybe bowl bans.
 
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The level of conspiracy you guys are resorting to is hilarious.

I've been having fun with it. I've joked about it with TrustMe and I think it was nava. Only one I'm being serious with is you bc if the deep shade of your maize sunglasses
 
It isn't. Hard stop. But feel free to cite a rule you think it violates.

If Harbaugh pays for a hotel room, pays for someone's food and pays for someone's tickets, and that person goes and records a football game, that absolutely does not violate the letter of the NCAA rule. There is absolutely no rule about Harbaugh paying for some homeless dude's ticket and expenses to a game.

This one, you gaslighting idiot.

From the Detroit Free Press....

"NCAA Bylaw 11.6.1, which states: "Off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited."

You've been told this for 40 pages now.

If Harbaugh (or anyone else in the Michigan organization) does all those things you said and willingly uses the product to gain an advantage, it is certainly a rule violation.
 
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This one, you gaslighting idiot.

From the Detroit Free Press....

"NCAA Bylaw 11.6.1, which states: "Off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited."

You've been told this for 40 pages now.

If Harbaugh does all those things you said and willingly uses the product to gain an advantage, it is certainly a rule violation.
Right. And had you taken two seconds, you might have looked up the context of that rule and rules around it. Where it very specifically is dealing with an "institutional staff member"; which a friend of an institutional staff member sitting in the stands is not.

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I've been having fun with it. I've joked about it with TrustMe and I think it was nava. Only one I'm being serious with is you bc if the deep shade of your maize sunglasses
I'm having fun with it too. I do wish this wasn't happening. I also do think it's funny OSU fans think their dynasty was destroyed by a 20 something and his friends with iphones.
 
I'm having fun with it too. I do wish this wasn't happening. I also do think it's funny OSU fans think their dynasty was destroyed by a 20 something and his friends with iphones.
If last year's CFP and this season have showed us anything, the dynasty is far from over. I'd also pipe down about filing suit vs the CFP. You've still got a lot of work before you can start thinking about that.
 
Right. And had you taken two seconds, you might have looked up the context of that rule and rules around it. Where it very specifically is dealing with an "institutional staff member"; which a friend of an institutional staff member sitting in the stands is not.

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Let's try this again.....

Where do you see "institutional staff member" in the rule below?


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"institutional staff member" is not there, gaslighter.

"in-person" means any person.
 
It isn't. Michigan adjusting to an audible called by Ohio State, in a very clear passing formation and motioning the secondary to back up, is something any team should be able to do on normal scouting.


Sorry the primary cheater in question was not watching the field or the formation he was watching the other sideline. Your excuse is just another failed excuse as is tradition.
 
Right. And had you taken two seconds, you might have looked up the context of that rule and rules around it. Where it very specifically is dealing with an "institutional staff member"; which a friend of an institutional staff member sitting in the stands is not.

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You realize how stupid an argument that is, right? You can’t have others do your dirty work and say, oh, no big deal, it was a friend of a friend.
 
You realize how stupid an argument that is, right? You can’t have others do your dirty work and say, oh, no big deal, it was a friend of a friend.

maze&blew is in such denial or distraction that he has to add words to the rule. LOL

If Michigan was using the off-campus video for game preparation of a future opponent it's a violation.
It matters not who the "person" is that obtained the ill-gotten video.
 
Right. And had you taken two seconds, you might have looked up the context of that rule and rules around it. Where it very specifically is dealing with an "institutional staff member"; which a friend of an institutional staff member sitting in the stands is not.

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Here's the thing: It says off campus, in person scouting of future opponents in the same season is prohibited. Those exceptions talk about things an institutional staff member can do. However, those exceptions by no means excuse the use of illegal scouting means performed on behalf of the university by someone regardless of their standing. You aren't interpreting this correctly.
 
I'm having fun with it too. I do wish this wasn't happening. I also do think it's funny OSU fans think their dynasty was destroyed by a 20 something and his friends with iphones.

OSU still could've won a title last year with or without this. It only gets less impactful when it goes to 12. OSU will pretty much always be in the playoffs. Probably a year here or there they are not...but not often.
 
Let's try this again.....

Where do you see "institutional staff member" in the rule below?


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"institutional staff member" is not there, gaslighter.

"in-person" means any person.
The entire paragraph, before and after, is referencing institutional staff members. It also simply doesn't make sense if that line isn't also applied to the same things every single line before and after is applied to. It doesn't make sense if that line applies to the population at large, and would make pretty much every school, and fans thereof, offenders of this. The NCAA would have a hell of a time arguing that it applies beyond institutional staff members, not only in the language they use in the subsection but also in how on earth that could possibly be applied.
 
Here's the thing: It says off campus, in person scouting of future opponents in the same season is prohibited. Those exceptions talk about things an institutional staff member can do. However, those exceptions by no means excuse the use of illegal scouting means performed on behalf of the university by someone regardless of their standing. You aren't interpreting this correctly.
The entire context of the section of that regulation is talking about institutional staff members. The implication of what "institutional members CAN do" is that the first section is about what they can't do. There is no other way around that.
 
OSU still could've won a title last year with or without this. It only gets less impactful when it goes to 12. OSU will pretty much always be in the playoffs. Probably a year here or there they are not...but not often.
Oh for sure. The loss last year was a failure of coaching IMO. They still played a great game and took the champs down to the wire.
 
The entire paragraph, before and after, is referencing institutional staff members. It also simply doesn't make sense if that line isn't also applied to the same things every single line before and after is applied to. It doesn't make sense if that line applies to the population at large, and would make pretty much every school, and fans thereof, offenders of this. The NCAA would have a hell of a time arguing that it applies beyond institutional staff members, not only in the language they use in the subsection but also in how on earth that could possibly be applied.
The guy in question bought the tickets. So once again your excuse is BS as is tradition.
 
The entire context of the section of that regulation is talking about institutional staff members. The implication of what "institutional members CAN do" is that the first section is about what they can't do. There is no other way around that.
What you just said made 0 sense. Word for word, it says "Off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited". The next two bylaws do not by any means absolve michigan of wrongdoing if they used material that was acquired in violation of 11.6.1. You are trying to bend words to make it seem like it's a loophole, but it's not. If they used recordings that were obtained through illegal means, they've violated this rule. Somehow every single person can see that except you.
 
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