More Michigan Cheating

I think when one team doesnt follow the rules and the other does, it makes that situation worse. Especially if the one not following is one of the big boys.
If you want to frame it like that. I agree. Talking about a level playing field is asinine in college football though. There is no such thing as a level playing field in CFB. You have teams spending more on locker room upgrades than some teams have in their entire football budget for multiple years.

CFB is, and always will be, the have and the have nots.
 
1. We don't know that "nobody else was", because it very much sounds like other people WERE
2. It very much sounds like we hired a lunatic who was operating independently without most knowing where that information was coming from
2a. Sign stealing was so prevalent in the league that other coaches (DC/OC/HC) had no idea that hte information was coming from these 3rd parties
The Washington Post article already released confirmed information that the hard drive with all of Stalions' information was accessed by other coaches on the team, so 2/2a aren't true. Care to try again?
 
1. We don't know that "nobody else was", because it very much sounds like other people WERE
2. It very much sounds like we hired a lunatic who was operating independently without most knowing where that information was coming from
2a. Sign stealing was so prevalent in the league that other coaches (DC/OC/HC) had no idea that hte information was coming from these 3rd parties
We dont know you are not a talking monkey, but it very much soulnds like you are. See how that works...
Sorry I had to edit this, yes #2 is correct. Harbs is exactly how you describe.
 
Everybody is trying to "gather in person", "collect", and "decipher" an opponents sideline signals DURING a game with said opponents.

We all know this and it's been reiterated over 1,000 times in this thread.
Yes. And if used for your own use that's fine. IF given to opponents of that team, that's literally scouting of future opponents (the team giving the information doesn't seem like they're in violation but certainly the team asking for/receiving the information).
 
The Washington Post article already released confirmed information that the hard drive with all of Stalions' information was accessed by other coaches on the team, so 2/2a aren't true. Care to try again?
I have not seen anything that actually supports this. There was a claim floating around twitter, that so far seems unsupported. Stallions being hte one one suspended/fired seems to very much suggest there is no connections beyond him on staff.
 
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Certainly opened up a can. And certainly makes the impact of any individual offense more minimal than previously claimed. Or they rule that this isn't an offense. (The NCAA hasn't even notified of any offense)

It doesn't really open up a thing. If multiple teams violate a rule, it doesn't make the rule invalid. Furthermore, there isn't any real evidence that any other school was doing the same thing.

And forget about the NCAA. They won't rule on this until 2030 and their ruling will be to punish Central Michigan. It's the Big Ten that could potentially punish Michigan.
 
The Washington Post article already released confirmed information that the hard drive with all of Stalions' information was accessed by other coaches on the team, so 2/2a aren't true. Care to try again?
So who confirmed the information? Let me guess. Is it a Mr. Jeff Unnamed Source?
 
I'm still waiting to see a good explanation of why the B1G would be out to get Michigan because of their success, but has just allowed Ohio State to get away with their success for most of the new century so far? Hilarious to think the B1G would handicap themselves from making more money because they were "jealous of Harbaugh" or whatever shit Michigan fans want to clam.
 
It doesn't really open up a thing. If multiple teams violate a rule, it doesn't make the rule invalid. Furthermore, there isn't any real evidence that any other school was doing the same thing.

And forget about the NCAA. They won't rule on this until 2030 and their ruling will be to punish Central Michigan. It's the Big Ten that could potentially punish Michigan.
We're talking two things here, though. B10 and NCAA. We don't know if this violates the NCAA rule.

The B10 has issued a notice that this violates a sportsmanship rule.
 
We're talking two things here, though. B10 and NCAA. We don't know if this violates the NCAA rule.

The B10 has issued a notice that this violates a sportsmanship rule.

You may be talking about two things. I'm not thinking about the NCAA. They aren't going to do shit, as usual.
 
I'm still waiting to see a good explanation of why the B1G would be out to get Michigan because of their success, but has just allowed Ohio State to get away with their success for most of the new century so far? Hilarious to think the B1G would handicap themselves from making more money because they were "jealous of Harbaugh" or whatever shit Michigan fans want to clam.
There's some obvious answers out there, especially for the better teams in the conference. It also behooves a lot of teams long term to get Harbaugh out.
 
There's some obvious answers out there, especially for the better teams in the conference. It also behooves a lot of teams long term to get Harbaugh out.

I'm talking about the CONFERENCE leadership, not the other schools.

The B1G as a governing body isn't going to shoot itself in the foot and handicap one of their big money makers for "no reason"
 
You may be talking about two things. I'm not thinking about the NCAA. They aren't going to do shit, as usual.
Right, so there is no "rule" violation in the B10. This is just a determination being made by the commissioner, given broad leeway to independently make that determination. Hence the controversy. There is no B10 rule Michigan violated in plain text.
 
It doesn't really open up a thing. If multiple teams violate a rule, it doesn't make the rule invalid. Furthermore, there isn't any real evidence that any other school was doing the same thing.

And forget about the NCAA. They won't rule on this until 2030 and their ruling will be to punish Central Michigan. It's the Big Ten that could potentially punish Michigan.
The B1G isn't going to be able to much of anything. Only way they do is if there is evidence of Harbaugh knowing about this. They may suspend him for a game.

I bet they hold off on the his suspension thru this weekend, then on monday, suspend him for a game, then he will be back for OSU.
 
I'm talking about the CONFERENCE leadership, not the other schools.

The B1G as a governing body isn't going to shoot itself in the foot and handicap one of their big money makers for "no reason"
And conference leadership is...the schools. The B10 governing body is...the schools; specifically the presidents.
 
The B1G isn't going to be able to much of anything. Only way they do is if there is evidence of Harbaugh knowing about this. They may suspend him for a game.

I bet they hold off on the his suspension thru this weekend, then on monday, suspend him for a game, then he will be back for OSU.

I think they can say Harbaugh failed to control his program an allowed it to go rouge. If he were so oblivious that all of this was going on around him. Harbaugh is still responsible as the captain of the ship.
 
So who confirmed the information? Let me guess. Is it a Mr. Jeff Unnamed Source?
Good point, the Washington Post is putting out articles biased against michigan without any kind of solid sources
 
I think they can say Harbaugh failed to control his program an allowed it to go rouge. If he were so oblivious that all of this was going on around him. Harbaugh is still responsible as the captain of the ship.
The NCAA did make that a rule. There seems to be enough evidence here, or lack thereof, to reasonably suggest that Harbaugh probably didn't know a crazy person on staff was donning a disguise on the sidelines of the CMU/MSU game. The NCAA isn't bound by rule to make that conclusion. They can if necessary. But, again, we still don't know if they even view this as a rule violation and if they do, what level (1, 2 or 3)

There’s a technical violation to the stallions in person scouting stuff that may or may not be present here, but the argument that it was somehow unsportsmanlike or a competitive advantage or “the biggest scandal ever” has completely fallen apart in the last 20 hours.
 
The B1G isn't going to be able to much of anything. Only way they do is if there is evidence of Harbaugh knowing about this. They may suspend him for a game.

I bet they hold off on the his suspension thru this weekend, then on monday, suspend him for a game, then he will be back for OSU.

That may very well end up being what happens. I'm expecting Harbaugh to be suspended for Penn State an Maryland and then be back for OSU.
 
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