More Michigan Cheating

[Red_Alert]

There is no NCAA rule against people not employed by the university going to games, filming them and providing that to any school. There's also no rule against past opponents sharing information with opponents of that school in the future. Michigan broke the bylaw 8 times. And given the punishment the baylor staffer received for the 1 game he attended, that's equivalent of suspending Stallions for 4 full games and a $40,000 fine. It was a secondary violation then. Unless you're going to argue the collective somehow violates another unnamed NCAA bylaw, there is no way to rule that previous infections were secondary but these infractions of the same bylaw or major.

Back to the "MiChigAn'S JuSt sMarTer ThAn EvErYoNe eLsE" loophole.

A Michigan staffer was funding an illegal scouting of future opponents scheme to benefit Michigan in game planning. Since Stalion was on Michigan's payroll, and his actions were meant to benefit Michigan in game planning, then Michigan was funding the illegal scouting of future opponents scheme.

 

[Red_Alert]

You are. You refuse to admit you called my video a screen grab even when I showed (angain) absolute proof you did. You just don’t want to admit that maize. There is nothing hidden in the context when you are asking me to show a video instead of a screen grab when a video is exactly what I showed.

No where does it say that staffer was on the sideline tapping the future opponents hand signals with a recording device. So, not really the same thing maize.

You've got to understand leftard distractions, rationalizations, and lies, when one of theirs is caught doing nefarious things.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Lots of people in this thread are about to be disappointed when this is settled

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

You are. You refuse to admit you called my video a screen grab even when I showed (angain) absolute proof you did. You just don’t want to admit that maize. There is nothing hidden in the context when you are asking me to show a video instead of a screen grab when a video is exactly what I showed.

No where does it say that staffer was on the sideline tapping the future opponents hand signals with a recording device. So, not really the same thing maize.

It’s not my problem that you’re unable to read. I did not call your video a screen grab.

The method of in person scouting is irrelevant.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

What you linked about Baylor was them attending a high school game to look at a recruit, but they had already hit the limit of times they were allowed to do that. It's nothing like what Michigan is being accused of

No. It isn’t. There’s two violations listed. The track meet and this.

A third assistant football coach attended a game of a future opponent, which was prohibited off-campus scouting.

 

[fordman84]

Lots of people in this thread are about to be disappointed when this is settled

I understand you writing this, that won't even make the top 100 stupidest things you said in this thread when it gets bumped to high-heavens.

 

[fordman84]

No. It isn’t. There’s two violations listed. The track meet and this.

You could be right. Michigan has been upfront and honest, and the coaching staff and former coach have been cooperative with the investigation so the NCAA will probably go light on them.



wait...

 

[fordman84]

It’s not my problem that you’re unable to read. I did not call your video a screen grab.

The method of in person scouting is irrelevant.

Uhm, say what? You didn't call a video @ralphiewvu posted a screen grab?

I'm beginning to think you're very much not smart.

The screen grab I'm talking about is the single frame of that video where the blue flash is evident. The point of me asking you to put up the video was not to declare it didn't exist (I had already seen it) but to illustrate to you that the blue light wasn't a constant. When removed from just looking at a single screenshot of the blue spot on the sunglasses, you can clearly see it's a reflection from something in the stadium. And it's the only point in any of the images/video where that occurs.

IE it's pretty ridiculous to claim he's wearing spy glasses and it isn't just a reflection.

To recap, you said you had seen the video @ralphiewvu is talking about and you claimed he was "a screen grab" and was wrong and it was a video board reflection. The icing on the cake is you calling him stupid.

 

[fordman84]

There is a long video, the blue light does not exist but for a moment on that video. It is almost certainly a reflection of something in teh stadium.

I'm beginning to think you're very much not smart.

The screen grab I'm talking about is the single frame of that video where the blue flash is evident. The point of me asking you to put up the video was not to declare it didn't exist (I had already seen it) but to illustrate to you that the blue light wasn't a constant. When removed from just looking at a single screenshot of the blue spot on the sunglasses, you can clearly see it's a reflection from something in the stadium. And it's the only point in any of the images/video where that occurs.

IE it's pretty ridiculous to claim he's wearing spy glasses and it isn't just a reflection.

Add you into the idiot category.

There is no video of the light constantly on. I had already seen the video. What's being shared in mass is a single screen grab of that video, because the rest of the video very clearly illustrates that it's a brief reflection of something. I was not, at any point, arguing that video of him there didn't exist; in spite of where you two dummies are making your stand on this.

Jesus you are dumb. What's being shared online is a screen grab of that moment from the video. In context, IE while viewing the video, you can clearly see it's a reflection.

And what kind of spy glasses do you think are out there that flash a giant blue light when you start recording? I think it's more hilarious that you think someone intentionally made secret spy glasses that blatantly give themselves away when turned on.

Jesus. This is almost certainly a reflection, and based on the video I would guess a reflection of the scoreboard.

No, I tried to tell you that what you were referencing was a couple frames of a longer video and that's not how recording devices work. I think it's hilarious you think he had secret spy glasses with a glaring blue light when they were recording.

What the video shows is a reflection as he turns and you see the scoreboard reflected. You know, the giant glowing orb in the stadium?

I think this is hilarious because the light reflecting in the video screengrab is very clearly in a different location. Weird that a light would exist on a lens…almost like a reflection?

Not only is this to the right of where it would be on the camera glasses posted but it’s on the lens….and square like a video board reflection would be. And that’s even assuming this random person is linked to Michigan in any way

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This is getting old. We're talking about a few frames within a video, of which was screen grabbed and shared online to make it seem like a camera light. It is not. It's a square shaped reflection in the lens of whoever that is.

It's a screen grab of a screen grab of a few frames in a video, this still doesn't help your argument....because that is most certainly not in the frame of the sunglasses and it's square. Exactly how you'd expect a reflection of a scoreboard to look, and absolutely not how you'd expect a circular camera light in the far left corner of the frame to look.

See my statement above. I very clearly said this:

Not only am I using it correctly, the deflection here is hilarious. You are all wrong, just say you didn't read the posts correctly and move on. It was, and is, a screen grab of the moment in the video where the light turns on. That is what I've been referencing this entire time. The video illustrates why that's important because the reflection is only shown at the end.

Derp back at you. See the pixalations in this image widely shared on twitter? This is what I've been referencing, this is what was independently posted here and it's from someone literally taking a picture of a computer screen. You are wrong, move on



There is no reason to double down on this idiocy, and yet -- here you are. The video itself, shows that this reflection doesn't exist but for a moment at the end.

lol, and what do you think this fucking is? Are you stupid?


It's literally a still image taken of a computer screen, of the single moment in the video where the reflection exists. This is a fucking stupid argument and you are being stupid.

I'm moving on from the screen grab semantics. 1 second, or 2 seconds, it's irrelevant. It happens for a moment in time because it's a reflection.

Spartan Stadium actually has two offset scoreboards on one end.

Which would perfectly line up with the way he's looking.

He's absolutely looking at the other sideline, which means that's absolutely the reflection of the corner scoreboard to the right of where he's looking....

Michigan is losing the public perception here because they can't say anything about it. Which is messed up. B10 coaches and AD's actively commenting on, and leaking information, while an NCAA investigation is insane.

It’s legal, it’s a reflection and the people perpetrating lies are about to get sued into oblivion. Welcome to the big leagues. Stay in the G5 where your team belongs. I’m sure your big game against Pitt is coming.

Sorry, just wanted to bring it home with a quick collection of all the times @MAIZEandBLUE09 stated the video (that he claims he had seen at the time) was just a reflection.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Sorry, just wanted to bring it home with a quick collection of all the times @MAIZEandBLUE09 stated the video (that he claims he had seen at the time) was just a reflection.

Right. I was wrong about that. Most likely. It’s really never actually been confirmed. I already admitted that pages ago. That was sure a waste of time for you though.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Uhm, say what? You didn't call a video @ralphiewvu posted a screen grab?



To recap, you said you had seen the video @ralphiewvu is talking about and you claimed he was "a screen grab" and was wrong and it was a video board reflection. The icing on the cake is you calling him stupid.

No. That’s not what happened at all. I called a screen grab of the video a screen grab. Don’t you start being stupid too.

 

[fordman84]

Right. I was wrong about that. Most likely. It’s really never actually been confirmed. I already admitted that pages ago. That was sure a waste of time for you though.

Took 5 seconds

 

[fordman84]

No. That’s not what happened at all. I called a screen grab of the video a screen grab. Don’t you start being stupid too.

Probably because the screen grab was a screen grab of a video. Not sure your point there. You were wrong about the reflection, you are retarded about this "it's not a video its a screen grab" or whatever you are trying to do here, and once again you were dead wrong.


So tell me, what fucking changed from last year to this year? You saw the video you said, but now all of a sudden it isn't a screen grab or some stupid shit like that and it also isn't a reflection.

What the fuck are you getting on about? Because no one but you seems to think you are making any sense. I think you have tin-foiled yourself more retarded

 

[cwerph]

This thread is a clearly example of what Michigan is trying to do.

Caught red-handed, they are trying to muddle the issues and wear people down until they can't be bothered any more.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Probably because the screen grab was a screen grab of a video. Not sure your point there. You were wrong about the reflection, you are retarded about this "it's not a video its a screen grab" or whatever you are trying to do here, and once again you were dead wrong.


So tell me, what fucking changed from last year to this year? You saw the video you said, but now all of a sudden it isn't a screen grab or some stupid shit like that and it also isn't a reflection.

What the fuck are you getting on about? Because no one but you seems to think you are making any sense. I think you have tin-foiled yourself more retarded

Literally what I said all the way back in 2023. Recently The reflection has never the point. @ralphiewvu has been accusing me for a year and a half of not knowing what a screen grab is and every time he brings it up, I can point to the entire context of the conversation where I am clearly referencing the screen grab of the video he posted and not his video. Whether or not the actual blinking light was a recorder has become irrelevant to the thing he keeps brining up. I'm nto sure why it's a hard concept for him to get.

Was it stallions? Probably, yes. Was he probably recording? sure. I was dead wrong about that.

 

[ralphiewvu]

It’s not my problem that you’re unable to read. I did not call your video a screen grab.

You didn’t? Hmmmm

Show me video of a blue flashy thing and not a screen grab. This is called confirmation bias. You want something to be true so you went looking for a way to make it. No, he wasn't wearing recording sunglasses.

Stop lying

The method of in person scouting is irrelevant.

That’s absurdly false.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Literally what I said all the way back in 2023. Recently The reflection has never the point. @ralphiewvu has been accusing me for a year and a half of not knowing what a screen grab is and every time he brings it up, I can point to the entire context of the conversation where I am clearly referencing the screen grab of the video he posted and not his video. Whether or not the actual blinking light was a recorder has become irrelevant to the thing he keeps brining up. I'm nto sure why it's a hard concept for him to get.

Was it stallions? Probably, yes. Was he probably recording? sure. I was dead wrong about that.

Let’s try this again maize, THERE IS NO SCREEN GRAB of the video I posted. It is a video. This is what you aren’t understanding. The whole reason I called you out yet again. Yet you are too proud to admit this. You are wrong on this maize. But yet we know you won’t admit it.

 

[Wild Turkey]

I'd ask for a summary but I literally quit caring around post 1,855.

 

[cwerph]

You didn’t? Hmmmm



Stop lying


That’s absurdly false.

This is peak Michigan. Faced with overwhelming evidence, they just deny it exists.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

You didn’t? Hmmmm



Stop lying


That’s absurdly false.

The entire context of that conversation was about the image of stallions with the lense flare. You posted the video. I continued to talk about the still image. This isn't hard.