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ralphiewvu said:
The share of their market is minuscule, not their market.

You even Admitted such. But now you are going back to doubling down on stupid.

Your insecurity in admitting you are wrong doesn’t make me any less right.

Keep posting those simple jack memes while you continue to argue incorrectly on this.
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TCU's market = their share of the market. What part of your puny brain has a hard time comprehending this?

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NIL in Vegas could be out outrageous, when you start partnering with their hotels.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
TCU's market = their share of the market. What part of your puny brain has a hard time comprehending this?

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That is absolutely wrong.

TCUs market is DFW. Which is not miniscule.

TCUs share of the market is.

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OregonDucks said:
Vegas is growing, again growing in full-time residents and growing in destination for all things sports. UNLV right this moment may not be a big program and people may not be paying attention to them locally, but give them a P5 conference, P5 money, and a big platform and why wouldn't UNLV blossom into a major successful program?

Who would have thought Hockey would work in Las Vegas? Within 10 years the Golden Knights have a stanley cup and there are Golden Knight stuff EVERYWHERE in Vegas. They love the Golden Knights. Once a team becomes successful in LV the locals take to it, hell I was in Vegas before the Knights first season and the city was so excited about them and they had Knight stuff everywhere. Imagine the hype train if their local university was propelled to a P5 conference?

You add in the potential donors/boosters from the casino's and the marketing put out there by the casino's through the use of the UNLV program and suddenly the Rebels have a huge budget.

Utah was a G5 program and came into the Pac12 and grew. Look at Utah now. Colorado was a crappy P5 program who moved to the Pac12 and remained crap. That move from the Big12 to Pac12 for Colorado did nothing for them. Meanwhile, Utah's move from the G5 conference to Pac-12 as propelled them to one of the top and most consistently successful programs in the country. Utah is doing this within Salt Lake City, not Las Vegas.

You're blind if you can't see the huge potential in UNLV in a P5 conference. They may be bad now, with no history of success, but you put someone in there with a vision, who can capitalize off it's location and it's market and this is a program that won't take long to explode into relevancy.
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Dude Utah was a GOOD G5 program and had plenty of success before joining the Pac 12. Utah had 5 10 win seasons in the 8 years leading up to joining the Pac 12, including 2 major BCS Bowl wins.

UNLV has had about zero success ever. Their All Time record as a FBS program is 190-327-3, they are a HORRIBLE program. Comparing them to Utah is incredibly stupid and they really aren't even comparable. Joining a watered down Pac 12 is not suddenly going to make a dreadful program a great program.
 
Also lol @ saying UNLV would be successful because the Vegas Golden Knights are a successful NHL team. Because the NHL is in anyway comparable to college football in how things work.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Dude Utah was a GOOD G5 program and had plenty of success before joining the Pac 12. Utah had 5 10 win seasons in the 8 years leading up to joining the Pac 12, including 2 major BCS Bowl wins.

UNLV has had about zero success ever. Their All Time record as a FBS program is 190-327-3, they are a HORRIBLE program. Comparing them to Utah is incredibly stupid and they really aren't even comparable. Joining a watered down Pac 12 is not suddenly going to make a dreadful program a great program.
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Utah's success prior to the PAC has nothing to do with the program itself but more so the coaching. They didn't have great recruiting classes prior to the PAC. They had good years, sure, but their first few years within the PAC they were bad. In fact, their first 2-3 years were very underwhelming and some thought they'd never get on track and get up and going and the Pac-12 would be too big and too tough for them. But they increased their recruiting over time and they have great coaching.

I'm sure you bring Boise into the PAC-12 their first 2-3 years is going to be growing pains. Even though they have been successful for decades now, but they simply haven't recruited on par with the PAC-12 teams and it is going to take them time to get up to par with the other teams on a weekly basis.

No matter whether your program was successful or not in the G5, it doesn't necessarily translate to success in the P5. Utah and Boise benefited from really good coaching. The talent wasn't there week in and week out to compete in the P5.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Yea just because a school is in a market does not mean they are going to bring huge dividends to a conference

Examine more of OD trying to pimp UNLV as a huge get for the Pac 12

UNLV Attendance

2022 Average Attendance: 22,112
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 34.02%

I'm sure the TV numbers are even more laughable.

Vegas BLEEDS for UNLV Football!, that market is going to be raging!
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Vegas does not bleed for UNLV football, but you are also talking out your ass. Vegas loves winners. If UNLV football would turn it around to a point of being competitive in every game, and winning a few, there would be a massive turn around. You are also using numbers from a stadium they have played in for one full season. 65k seats, and they played in a shithole for 30 years that only seated 20k.

If they actually could get their shit together on any level, the support would be there.
 
OregonDucks said:
Utah's success prior to the PAC has nothing to do with the program itself but more so the coaching. They didn't have great recruiting classes prior to the PAC. They had good years, sure, but their first few years within the PAC they were bad. In fact, their first 2-3 years were very underwhelming and some thought they'd never get on track and get up and going and the Pac-12 would be too big and too tough for them. But they increased their recruiting over time and they have great coaching.

I'm sure you bring Boise into the PAC-12 their first 2-3 years is going to be growing pains. Even though they have been successful for decades now, but they simply haven't recruited on par with the PAC-12 teams and it is going to take them time to get up to par with the other teams on a weekly basis.

No matter whether your program was successful or not in the G5, it doesn't necessarily translate to success in the P5. Utah and Boise benefited from really good coaching. The talent wasn't there week in and week out to compete in the P5.
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UNLV has had zero success ever. You think that program is going to attract quality coaches just because they jump into a watered down Pac 12? lol. You are delusional.
 
Peter Gozintite said:
Vegas does not bleed for UNLV football, but you are also talking out your ass. Vegas loves winners. If UNLV football would turn it around to a point of being competitive in every game, and winning a few, there would be a massive turn around. You are also using numbers from a stadium they have played in for one full season. 65k seats, and they played in a shithole for 30 years that only seated 20k.

If they actually could get their shit together on any level, the support would be there.
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What are the chances of that though. They've pretty much never shown anything ever that they are "trying to actually get it together" Why would anyone expect that would happen now?

Like I said, UNLV would be like Temple was in the Big East if they jumped into the Pac 12. I don't think that's a outlandish statement to make at all.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Dude Utah was a GOOD G5 program and had plenty of success before joining the Pac 12. Utah had 5 10 win seasons in the 8 years leading up to joining the Pac 12, including 2 major BCS Bowl wins.

UNLV has had about zero success ever. Their All Time record as a FBS program is 190-327-3, they are a HORRIBLE program. Comparing them to Utah is incredibly stupid and they really aren't even comparable. Joining a watered down Pac 12 is not suddenly going to make a dreadful program a great program.
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Randall Cunningham would like a word
 
osubuckeye89 said:
What are the chances of that though. They've pretty much never shown anything ever that they are "trying to actually get it together" Why would anyone expect that would happen now?

Like I said, UNLV would be like Temple was in the Big East if they jumped into the Pac 12. I don't think that's a outlandish statement to make at all.
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Icky woods would like a word
 
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