Raiders fire Gruden

Grant Ward said:
He called Goodell a faggot, Michael Sam a queer and sent redskins cheerleader titty pics.
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The whole thing stems from Washington's clusterfuck of an organization. These emails were uncovered as a result of the probe looking into multiple staff members trafficking prescription drugs. It comes on the heels of a scandal where a large number of women reported a myriad of sexual harassment and abuse.

As horrible as the WFT/Redskins are run, I wonder how many other emails are floating around other organizations. Let the witch hunt commence! (Start with John Lynch- that mo'fukka's whole name is racists!)
 
Former friends and colleagues dumping on Gruden. Nothing like kicking a guy when he is down.
 
I’ll say this much. This whole thing is more proof that we are not trying to make a better world by winning hearts and minds. This will not move the issue of racism forward. It’s only going to make it hotter.

Yes, Grudens comment on Smith alone was extremely poor. Whatever gripe he had with Smith wasn’t driven by the size of Smiths lips.

But, the wholesale cancel and distancing of people like this isn’t appropriate if the issues that come up in his emails are meant to progress forward and improve.
 
williewilliejuan said:
So what? I swear you guys have no fucking clue how the real world works. Let me clue you in on something: If you do something (or did something in the past) that reflects negatively on your current employer, they will fire you. That’s how employers in the real world operate.
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This…
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
I’ll say this much. This whole thing is more proof that we are not trying to make a better world by winning hearts and minds. This will not move the issue of racism forward. It’s only going to make it hotter.

Yes, Grudens comment on Smith alone was extremely poor. Whatever gripe he had with Smith wasn’t driven by the size of Smiths lips.

But, the wholesale cancel and distancing of people like this isn’t appropriate if the issues that come up in his emails are meant to progress forward and improve.
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What does that even mean? Like, we’re supposed to expect organizations to put up with shitty people and let them represent them because of this weird new idea that every shitty take should be accepted and coddled?
 
DJ said:
He's done.
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Yep. Maybe the people still crying about Kaepernick not having a job in the nfl will finally start to understand now. Because Gruden is now in that same boat. Good enough to still have a job in the league...but not good enough to justify the negative attention that comes with him.
 
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Orlando_Eagles said:
I’ll say this much. This whole thing is more proof that we are not trying to make a better world by winning hearts and minds. This will not move the issue of racism forward. It’s only going to make it hotter.

Yes, Grudens comment on Smith alone was extremely poor. Whatever gripe he had with Smith wasn’t driven by the size of Smiths lips.

But, the wholesale cancel and distancing of people like this isn’t appropriate if the issues that come up in his emails are meant to progress forward and improve.
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So what’s the answer? Just accept people who do and say shitty things, regardless of the impact that may have on your team or organization?
 
broncosmitty said:
Nope.

Marv Albert physically assaulted a hooker 25 years ago, I listened to him all playoffs long this summer.
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Shame on you. He bit her on the back, wore women's lingerie, and is mega-ugly.
 
williewilliejuan said:
Dumbass. He ain’t getting his old job back, either. When are these fools gonna learn?
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He's done for the rest of his life. The woketards have permanently cancelled him. It would be insteresting to check everyone's email in the NFL. Likely be a pretty empty house after that.
 
Gruden was at best mediocre as the Raiders head coach. I wouldn't be surprised if Mark Davis is relieved this is how it ended. Gruden got rid of Mack and for some odd reason got rid of a good offensive line. They started off the year good 3-0, but one of those wins was in OT and as recent weeks has shown, it wasn't a sustainable 3-0 start. Raiders were likely going to finish 7-9 or another 8-8 type year. They are way behind the Chargers and Chiefs within their division.

4 years into the 10 year 100 million dollar contract probably didn't look too promising to Davis and the Raiders.
 
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Center Ice said:
He's done for the rest of his life. The woketards have permanently cancelled him. It would be insteresting to check everyone's email in the NFL. Likely be a pretty empty house after that.
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Give some examples of anyone who’s been permanently ‘cancelled.’

He was forced out of his current job because his shitty takes came out. After some apologies and comments about soul searching he’ll be back on TV in a few years if he wants.
 
TheDayMan said:
Give some examples of anyone who’s been permanently ‘cancelled.’

He was forced out of his current job because his shitty takes came out. After some apologies and comments about soul searching he’ll be back on TV in a few years if he wants.
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Back in the old days when I said something that a co-worker didn't like, they just sent me to the training department for a refresher on non-discrimination thing-a-mummies.

Then I would come back and waive that certificate in their faces and go "how ya like me NOW, ya cross-dressing dago guinea fagola?"

And it would be another year before they could send me back to the training department.

Man, those were the days
 
williewilliejuan said:
So what’s the answer? Just accept people who do and say shitty things, regardless of the impact that may have on your team or organization?
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I don’t have answers. I also don’t believe we are at a point of answers….but I think it’s always worth trying to reach a mind and change it than banish one like this. At least as a first step.

That….would be the compassionate approach, like Edelman did when he reached out to DeSean Jackson and Meyers Leonard. But, the compassionate of us are falling away from this approach.

What if they fined and suspended Gruden to make the message clear that this is not representative of the Raiders org? Do you really think they would suffer ratings and ticket sales coming off of such a move?

But, that’s all for answers to the exact problem. What concerns me more….to your point about the “…impact that MAY have on the team and organization….”

What is that true impact? In our current world how much true backlash is coming from the public at large? I’m really feeling like the true impact is small. A relatively small group of bitchers and complainers.

But, as an alternative view on all of this let’s see what happens with Netflix backing Chapelle here. This is at least the 2nd or 3rd time the outrage and threats to boycott Netflix have come up.

But, yet, those same bitchers and moaners were watching Chapelles latest special. So……what’s the real threat
 
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