So what is the latest news on the OU and Texas to SEC situation?

Damn. SEC about to claim this WCWS title OU is about to get soon.
 
might as well add in Mens track too then


and Tennis lol
 
And gymnastics
 
The clues will be through the SEC leadership. They are working through the structure right now of how it will look and the logistics of it. When they start making announcements about what the structure is going to be and how many conference games are played then things will heat up.

Right now the conference leadership wants to go to 9 games but can’t get the votes. Once that is figured out they will know if teams need to buy games out and how to restructure.

I honestly don’t think the conference is in a hurry because it’s an absolute pain to make all these changes in all sports. What seems like a long time really isn’t when you realize what needs to happen behind the scenes. Won’t be surprised if it’s 2025.
 
Wild Turkey said:
The clues will be through the SEC leadership. They are working through the structure right now of how it will look and the logistics of it. When they start making announcements about what the structure is going to be and how many conference games are played then things will heat up.

Right now the conference leadership wants to go to 9 games but can’t get the votes. Once that is figured out they will know if teams need to buy games out and how to restructure.

I honestly don’t think the conference is in a hurry because it’s an absolute pain to make all these changes in all sports. What seems like a long time really isn’t when you realize what needs to happen behind the scenes. Won’t be surprised if it’s 2025.
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lol it's not a pain.. we all saw how quickly schedules can be changed with covid.. you really think it's more difficult a year out to determine a '23 schedule? I would look towards the SEC media days in July for the format to be announced
 
Thiefery said:
Call me crazy, but I think the new big 12 will be more competitive than the ACC and Pac
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WhosYourDawggy said:
I’ve posted all sorts of posts with links that predict that to be the case. SEC - $115 mil per team, B1G - about $110, the other 3 PF somewhere about $52-$58 million. It’s not that the other 3 will be all that different … it’s that the SEC and B1G are going to be way ahead of the other 3.
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a lot of those kinds of predictions have been skewed. its going off data of the schools in their current settings. saying Cinci won 13 games in the AAC, nothing against the AAC, but its not the same as the P5. if you made a schedule would you rather play, 7-6 Tulsa, 8-4 SMU, 6-6 Memphis or play 7-6 Iowa State, 8-5 Kansas State, 6-7 West Virginia.
saying adding those 3 ranked teams means the Big XII has 6 in the top 20 is false because some of those wins from AAC would be replaced with tougher competition from the Big XII.
One of the problems for the new Big XII will be no big name. good teams good programs but not a marquee program.
 
Lots of NC's being won by the Big XII in minor sports. But how many of you would make a deal that your school would never win another NC in a pipsqueak sport but you would regularly win a NC in football about every 5 years?
 
OlyDuck said:
a lot of those kinds of predictions have been skewed. its going off data of the schools in their current settings. saying Cinci won 13 games in the AAC, nothing against the AAC, but its not the same as the P5. if you made a schedule would you rather play, 7-6 Tulsa, 8-4 SMU, 6-6 Memphis or play 7-6 Iowa State, 8-5 Kansas State, 6-7 West Virginia.
saying adding those 3 ranked teams means the Big XII has 6 in the top 20 is false because some of those wins from AAC would be replaced with tougher competition from the Big XII.
One of the problems for the new Big XII will be no big name. good teams good programs but not a marquee program.
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On the contrary, they are done by people that know the details of the contracts, etc. These people have looked at what the conferences will look like at that time.

Big 12 announces Bob Bowlsby will step down as commissioner later this year

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/tcu-horned-frogs/2022/04/05/big-12-announces-bob-bowlsby-will-be-step-down-as-commissioner-later-this-year/?msclkid=f248ea7bb51f11ec9e44cbd5d09e170d This might open the door for OU and texas to get out sooner.
hooplanation.com
 
OlyDuck said:
a lot of those kinds of predictions have been skewed. its going off data of the schools in their current settings. saying Cinci won 13 games in the AAC, nothing against the AAC, but its not the same as the P5. if you made a schedule would you rather play, 7-6 Tulsa, 8-4 SMU, 6-6 Memphis or play 7-6 Iowa State, 8-5 Kansas State, 6-7 West Virginia.
saying adding those 3 ranked teams means the Big XII has 6 in the top 20 is false because some of those wins from AAC would be replaced with tougher competition from the Big XII.
One of the problems for the new Big XII will be no big name. good teams good programs but not a marquee program.
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There are very few BigXii conference games not featuring OU or UT that draw ratings.
 
Goldbug said:
Lots of NC's being won by the Big XII in minor sports. But how many of you would make a deal that your school would never win another NC in a pipsqueak sport but you would regularly win a NC in football about every 5 years?
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Well OU is not going to win a football NC every 5 years, so we can stop that delusion now.

1 out of every 20 is more likely.
 
Thiefery said:
lol it's not a pain.. we all saw how quickly schedules can be changed with covid.. you really think it's more difficult a year out to determine a '23 schedule? I would look towards the SEC media days in July for the format to be announced
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Yes rescheduling 2023, if the SEC went to 9 conference games, would be infinitely harder than what they did during COVID.

It wouldn't even be close since the majority of teams would have to buy out one team and more than likely try to move at least another game around.

Canceling an entire season and then just creating a round-robin conference setup is something most of the people on these bds could handle. Revamping entire schedules for 16 teams, adding a conference game and moving around OCC games and open dates is a massive task.

Just ask Georgia who last time we added teams had to come to Auburn in back-to-back seasons if it is easy to do. They still haven't gotten over that shit.
 
I know the Tech AD guy was orgasming about the payout for this season on an interview. He acts like it won't change much but I gotta now how much of that 420 mil was because of Texas? and ou? Sorry but I don't see these 4 new additions making up that number once UT and ou are gone.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Yes rescheduling 2023, if the SEC went to 9 conference games, would be infinitely harder than what they did during COVID.

It wouldn't even be close since the majority of teams would have to buy out one team and more than likely try to move at least another game around.

Canceling an entire season and then just creating a round-robin conference setup is something most of the people on these bds could handle. Revamping entire schedules for 16 teams, adding a conference game and moving around OCC games and open dates is a massive task.

Just ask Georgia who last time we added teams had to come to Auburn in back-to-back seasons if it is easy to do. They still haven't gotten over that shit.
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how many games did they have to cancel during covid.. they only played one OOC school right? You are making it sound much harder than it is
 
Thiefery said:
I know the Tech AD guy was orgasming about the payout for this season on an interview. He acts like it won't change much but I gotta now how much of that 420 mil was because of Texas? and ou? Sorry but I don't see these 4 new additions making up that number once UT and ou are gone.
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Ya wanna see some unhappy faces? If OU and/or Texas win every conference football championship as long as we're still here how much do you think the Runner-Up Conference would be getting paid after we leave?
 
Goldbug said:
www.yahoo.com

Big 12 schools get $42.6 million each in annual payout

Texas Tech, other members to receive $42.6 million each as take exceeds pre-pandemic highs
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Translation: TX/OU are not likely leaving the Big 12 until the GOR expires in 2025.

Big 12 2021 Payout: $42 million
SEC 2021 Payout: $55 million
Barring another covid season (2020) in which everyone's payouts decreased somewhat, the SEC's payouts are likely to increase at a greater curve in 2022/2023/2024 than the Big 12 curve w/tejas and Oklahoma still there.
The Big 12 GOR states specifically that if a team leaves they get that teams media payouts until the GOR expires in 2025. There are NO 'clauses'. The Big 12 is incorporated in Delaware and their courts are the king of enforcing contracts.

At $42 million a year (Big 12) and $55 million a year (SEC) that's a $13 million difference.
Staying in the Big 12 TX/OU at least get $42 million/yr.

Going to the SEC prior to 2025 then the SEC hands TX/OU's GOR payments to the Big 12. ALL OF IT. The Big 12 pays TX/OU nothing. The donghorn network will be null-and-void upon move to the SEC so tejas gives up that bonus as well.

At $13 million/yr difference X2 (TX/OU) = an additional $26 million/yr in media revenue for the remaining Big 12 teams. i.e. An additional $2.1 million/yr payout at the minimum.

Regarding the Big 12 offices to TX/OU leaving for the SEC prior to 2025?

Hurry up. Don't let the door hit you in the ass. We pay you nothing moving forward and we get your full SEC payouts.

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