Texas NIL Bill

WhosYourDawggy · Jun 29, 2023

ELTEXAN said:
The States will sue the ncaa as a monopsony. Ncaa will lose. You and I went over this on the other thread. I’m still right.

LOL

ELTEXAN · Jun 29, 2023

WhosYourDawggy said:
LOL

LOL all you want. SCOTUS already chopped the ncaa’s balls off. And Kavanaugh’s concurring opinion told them DIRECTLY that they are an illegal monopsony and any future decisions would treat them that way.

Again. I’m still right.

Red_Alert · Jun 29, 2023

WhosYourDawggy said:
The pipeline will shut down as soon as players getting a ton of money don't produce and the donors realize they are getting no ROI.

^^ THIS ^^

There are going to be plenty of busts.

The NFL has it's share of early round busts and there are just 32 teams.

There are 129 FBS teams. It's harder to gauge a 17/18 year old high school kid regarding continued growth and development. Did they peak in high school?

I grew another 3-4" after graduating high school.

WhosYourDawggy · Jun 29, 2023

ELTEXAN said:
LOL all you want. SCOTUS already chopped the ncaa’s balls off. And Kavanaugh’s concurring opinion told them DIRECTLY that they are an illegal monopsony and any future decisions would treat them that way.

Again. I’m still right.

LOL, you don't know what you are talking about. Kavanaugh's concurring opinion which no other Justices joined? That one? Leave the legaling to legal people. Back to the kiddies table for you!

ELTEXAN · Jun 29, 2023

WhosYourDawggy said:
LOL, you don't know what you are talking about. Kavanaugh's concurring opinion which no other Justices joined? That one? Leave the legaling to legal people. Back to the kiddies table for you!

For the sixth time now you fail to speak to the actual points made. More “appeal to authority”!LOL indeed

WhosYourDawggy · Jun 29, 2023

ELTEXAN said:
For the sixth time now you fail to speak to the actual points made. More “appeal to authority”!LOL indeed

When I am the Authority, no more is needed. Kiddies table, now, let the adults talk.

NewPhoneWhoDis · Jun 29, 2023

Thiefery said:
no the people donating are all doing cool things rather than sitting around complaining that the sport they love is falling apart

i'm sure they are doing 'cool things', because anyone i've ever met that used the word cool, definitely knows how to have a good time. i bet they are going out to dinner at 4 pm and in bed by 8 pm.

i didn't say the sport was falling apart -- i said if the players wanted to be paid like professionals, they need to be treated like professionals. i think it'd be highly entertaining seeing a kid get traded from Michigan to say Boise State. or even more entertaining would be seeing a school pull an under performing kids scholarship mid season and making them leave the school if they didn't have the academic background to be accepted into the school.

fordman84 · Jun 29, 2023

WhosYourDawggy said:
You realize how stupid that sounds? You are a voluntary member of an organization that you help run, that you want to enforce rules, yet you are glad your dumbass state legislators are trying to undermine it? Why? Because you can't win under the current rules so you are going to make your own? What a beta move that is. And it ignores the reality that the same teams that have been winning will also win under the lack of rules if that is what happens.

You Texas guys have your chests all pumped out like you are doing something cool .... way to go team Texas, yee haw! And you don't even realize the damage you are doing to the sport you purport to support and love.

Had GA done this it would be a great idea, so jump up your own ass you homer dumbass.

fordman84 · Jun 29, 2023

WhosYourDawggy said:
I really don't think you've thought this through. No, it's not about UT and Aggy raising money. All the big boys can raise money. I've told you ... if you think tOSU, UGA, and Bama can't keep up with you on NIL, you are going to be disappointed. If you think all you need to do is raise money and you will suddenly be good, LOL ... talk to Aggy about how that's working out, or to all the schools on that list you sent me.

It's about the state of Texas, and other states, attempting to control the NCAA and what they do with their membership. Have you even read the law your morons (keep in mind that all politicians are morons to me) passed? Here is what it says, in part:

According to the legislation: “An athletic association, an athletic conference, or any other group or organization with authority over an intercollegiate athletic program at an institution to which this section applies may not enforce a contract term, a rule, a regulation, a standard, or any other requirement that prohibits the institution from participating in intercollegiate athletics or otherwise penalizes the institution or the institution’s intercollegiate athletic program for performing, participating in, or allowing an activity required or authorized by this section.”

They have basically said that the NCAA can't enforce its rules in Texas, which means Texas schools can do anything they want so long as their legislators pass laws about it. As I mentioned in a previous post, they could pass a law that says you can have 150 scholarship players and there is nothing the NCAA can do about it according to you, and you think this is a good thing. Do you really want that to happen? You have an irrational hate of the NCAA, but do you really want a system where there are no rules?

That's the anarchy and chaos you seem to simply ignore because you think you are pulling over a fast one, which you really aren't. If it goes to uncontrolled spending mattering, you don't think the other schools can keep up?

Still waiting on you to provide that list of half the class we paid for and left, you fucking idiot

fordman84 · Jun 29, 2023

Red_Alert said:
^^ THIS ^^

There are going to be plenty of busts.

The NFL has it's share of early round busts and there are just 32 teams.

There are 129 FBS teams. It's harder to gauge a 17/18 year old high school kid regarding continued growth and development. Did they peak in high school?

I grew another 3-4" after graduating high school.

And players keep getting drafted and paid millions, scholarships are still funded from donations from kids that don't end up earning them, and so on and so forth. There will always be money to pay for athletes.

fordman84 · Jun 29, 2023

NewPhoneWhoDis said:
i'm sure they are doing 'cool things', because anyone i've ever met that used the word cool, definitely knows how to have a good time. i bet they are going out to dinner at 4 pm and in bed by 8 pm.

i didn't say the sport was falling apart -- i said if the players wanted to be paid like professionals, they need to be treated like professionals. i think it'd be highly entertaining seeing a kid get traded from Michigan to say Boise State. or even more entertaining would be seeing a school pull an under performing kids scholarship mid season and making them leave the school if they didn't have the academic background to be accepted into the school.

Anything stopping them from pulling a scholarship mid season now? Other than harming future recruiting?

PeoplesChicken · Jun 29, 2023

Wild Turkey said:
Newly-signed Texas NIL bill could set standard moving forward

The bill was signed by Gov. Greg Abbott and will be enforced starting July 1.

www.aseaofblue.com

I was surprised this wasn't a topic yet and figured someone would start it. The gest is in the article but other things outside the article are being reported on the radio.

Basically, the Texas schools want to give incentives like points to people who contribute to the NIL collectives and the new Texas bill allows that but the NCAA doesn't. There is also some back and forth about the collectives paying the athletes and the NCAA saying that is not allowed.

Right now the schools are posturing to say they will follow state law and do not have to follow NCAA direction.

We are getting close to a nuclear situation with NIL and the NCAA it appears.

LOL@NCAA

NewPhoneWhoDis · Jun 30, 2023

fordman84 said:
Anything stopping them from pulling a scholarship mid season now? Other than harming future recruiting?

Name me one kid that has had his scholarship pulled mid-season based on performance? Bet you can't. But if they want to be paid like professionals, it should definitely come with the territory.

The trading of players is what I want to see. I think it would be so great to see a kid playing for his hometown team in front of his friends and family getting traded clear across the country to a school he wants nothing to do with and he will lose credits because they all don't transfer. But if you want to be paid like a professional, you have to expect schools to treat you like one.

Unless this whole NIL thing is like feminism, where they want 'equality' but only for the good things they hand pick. :dhd:

Red_Alert · Jun 30, 2023

I don't see NIL being sustainable in regards to cutting every hot shot recruit a big check just to sign on the dotted line.
This NIL is all new so the knee jerk spike in donations for it could be expected. However, the wallets will tighten once there are a few years of busts and transfers.

Sure guys that are stars (awards finalists, etc) will make bank selling apparel, doing commercials, autograph sessions, etc. They've earned it on the field.

Decoldest Crawford (WR) is a good example. As a true freshman he signed an NIL deal last year for SOS Heating and Air Conditioning, never played a down (knee injury), then transferred to Louisiana Tech.

I've no idea if SOS saw a ROI in his short time here. I doubt it since they were already a well established local HVAC company with a commercial jingle that had been around for years. Basically they paid to have a commercial made (usually done by the marketing dept of a local ABC, CBS, NBC affiliate) , they paid him for NIL, then they paid to have that commercial aired X times a day. I'm guessing it was an overall $$ loss for SOS since they won't be airing it anymore. They'll have to dig out an old commercial or have a new one filmed.
I can only assume his contract with SOS had some stipulations regarding performance and years he was gonna be a Husker.

Thiefery · Jun 30, 2023

that company didn't take a loss.. it got them more attention than any of their commercials have done.. almost 2 mil views in 8 months (on YouTube)

Red_Alert · Jun 30, 2023

Thiefery said:
that company didn't take a loss.. it got them more attention than any of their commercials have done.. almost 2 mil views in 8 months (on YouTube)

The vast majority of those views weren't by people that would use SOS HVAC services.
Someone in Pennsylvania isn't going to call SOS (a local Omaha company) to fix their HVAC in Philadelphia.

Heck. For that matter someone in Lincoln, NE isn't going to call SOS for HVAC issues either. They'll call a local company of which there are over a dozen of them.

I live appx 30 miles from Omaha. The nearest town to me is 2 miles away and has a population under 900. Guess who I'm calling for an HVAC issue?

It's the one in the small town 2 miles away. Just like everyone else in this community who needs HVAC for their businesses or homes.

Thiefery · Jun 30, 2023

Red_Alert said:
The vast majority of those views weren't by people that would use SOS HVAC services.
Someone in Pennsylvania isn't going to call SOS (a local Omaha company) to fix their HVAC in Philadelphia.

Heck. For that matter someone in Lincoln, NE isn't going to call SOS for HVAC issues either. They'll call a local company of which there are over a dozen of them.

I live appx 30 miles from Omaha. The nearest town to me is 2 miles away and has a population under 900. Guess who I'm calling for an HVAC issue?

It's the one in the small town 2 miles away. Just like everyone else in this community who needs HVAC for their businesses or homes.

wait so you are saying that it probably didn't get much play in Lincoln?

**Brian Kim, president of Relo Metrics, said that this single ad by itself is worth an estimated $105,000 to SOS.**

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football/nebraska-football-decoldest-crawford-nil

Red_Alert · Jun 30, 2023

Thiefery said:
wait so you are saying that it probably didn't get much play in Lincoln?

I can't say for sure (as I don't live there), but not likely.

Lincoln has their own ABC, CBS, NBC, affiliates with their own marketing departments.
Why would SOS HVAC pay advertising monies to show a commercial in a place 70 miles away where the residents aren't gonna use their services?

I know a lady that works in the marketing dept for Omaha's ABC affiliate. She used my daughter in a Salvation Army 'Tree of Lights' commercial when my daughter was about 5 years old.
Said commercials produced by local ABC, NBC, CBS, affiliates are only broadcast locally.
Nobody in Lincoln gives a shit about Omaha's 'Tree of Lights' fundraising campaign at Christmas.

I had no idea those affiliates were the ones producing local commercials until she asked if she could use my daughter in one. I figured they were produced by someone else and you just paid the affiliates to air it X times per day or week.

Red_Alert · Jun 30, 2023

Your heating or a/c goes out and you're gonna call someone 70 miles away?

Not likely. You want a local company that can be there pronto.

Thiefery · Jun 30, 2023

Red_Alert said:
Your heating or a/c goes out and you're gonna call someone 70 miles away?

Not likely. You want a local company that can be there pronto.

if it were Bijan.. i'd call the A/C company in austin to service my house in glaveston county lol