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osubuckeye89 said:
I'd say what fucking team is dumb enough to do that, dude can't handle the pressure of the college game hows he gonna deal with the pros?

But then I remember franchises like the Browns, Raiders, Jets & Bears exist.
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Kingsbury got an NFL gig, and he wasted Patrick fucking Mahomes’s college career with a bunch of 5 win seasons
 
Voltaire said:
I know that we need to curb our enthusiasm - Since 2020, we have not showed up for a game (2020 should have been a forfeit), and we won four straight ... it seems like a new Day came to shire fresh sunshine on us. Before that, ohio state won 15 out of 16 games. We still have some ground to gain.
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I see what you did there.

At this point, the objective is clear for Day. Win as much as you can between now and January. Chip has to go, and he can take his idiot lapdog OL coach Frye with him. Name Hartline the full-time OC and just get the fuck out of his way. Bring in a new OL coach that knows what he's doing, and reload for 2025.

Or, if he loses in the first round, update his resume.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Kingsbury got an NFL gig, and he wasted Patrick fucking Mahomes’s college career with a bunch of 5 win seasons
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It's hard to argue that Day very well may just be one of those guys that is a terrific coordinator but isn't meant to be a HC. Then again, I look at Harbaugh's first 6 years at michigan and how horrible of a job he did, and he has an NFL job now.
 
Across The Field said:
It's hard to argue that Day very well may just be one of those guys that is a terrific coordinator but isn't meant to be a HC. Then again, I look at Harbaugh's first 6 years at michigan and how horrible of a job he did, and he has an NFL job now.
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Yeah, I can’t see Day winning anywhere that doesn’t have the built in advantages OSU does, and I definitely don’t think he could turn around a struggling program

Harbaugh had a successful stint as an NFL HC, so he’s a different case. He could have landed another NFL gig if he didn’t want to go to Michigan, and it took longer than it probably should have, but Michigan was a rebuild job when he took over
 
Ya'll want a comparative lesson for Ryan Day in the pros? Look no further than his current OC Chip Kelly
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Yeah, I can’t see Day winning anywhere that doesn’t have the built in advantages OSU does, and I definitely don’t think he could turn around a struggling program

Harbaugh had a successful stint as an NFL HC, so he’s a different case. He could have landed another NFL gif if he didn’t want to go to Michigan, and it took longer than it probably should have, but Michigan was a rebuild job when he took over
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Yea Day wouldn't even possibly make a good MAC head coach, he survives on just having way more talent that most of his competitors.
 
When once describing Day, didn't some use the expression "born on third, thought he hit a triple"?
 
PeoplesChicken said:
When once describing Day, didn't some use the expression "born on third, thought he hit a triple"?
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This is stupid because it came from Harbaugh who inherited a pretty good Michigan roster and a program that was not in bad shape at all, they were just held down by the previous 2 bad hires. Hoke recruited very well he just sucked at coaching. Michigan fans want to act like Harbaugh inherited a MAC level mess which is hilarious.

Day actually has recruited better than Meyer did for the most part. So he holds his own in that aspect. It's just that he can't win big games.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
This is stupid because it came from Harbaugh who inherited a pretty good Michigan roster and a program that was not in bad shape at all, they were just held down by the previous 2 bad hires. Hoke recruited very well he just sucked at coaching. Michigan fans want to act like Harbaugh inherited a MAC level mess which is hilarious.

Day actually has recruited better than Meyer did for the most part. So he holds his own in that aspect. It's just that he can't win big games.
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Urban had more trouble with the little games. Day isn’t getting blown out by Iowa and Purdue. And Urban wasn’t too great with the big games himself beyond 2014.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Yeah, I can’t see Day winning anywhere that doesn’t have the built in advantages OSU does, and I definitely don’t think he could turn around a struggling program

Harbaugh had a successful stint as an NFL HC, so he’s a different case. He could have landed another NFL gig if he didn’t want to go to Michigan, and it took longer than it probably should have, but Michigan was a rebuild job when he took over
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This has never made sense to me. The talent was always there, the previous coaches were just awful. Harbaugh went 10-3 each his first two years with the previous regime's players, but then only won 10 games once in the next 3 years with largely his recruits.
 
Across The Field said:
This has never made sense to me. The talent was always there, the previous coaches were just awful. Harbaugh went 10-3 each his first two years with the previous regime's players, but then only won 10 games once in the next 3 years with largely his recruits.
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Yea Michigan was not a rebuild job, he was left with a good roster because Hoke recruited pretty well, he just sucked as a head coach and didnt do much with it.
 
Across The Field said:
This has never made sense to me. The talent was always there, the previous coaches were just awful. Harbaugh went 10-3 each his first two years with the previous regime's players, but then only won 10 games once in the next 3 years with largely his recruits.
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If a talented roster is losing games, there’s likely some culture issues that need to be fixed too. Hell, didn’t they need to get a transfer QB from Iowa his first year there?
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Yea Michigan was not a rebuild job, he was left with a good roster because Hoke recruited pretty well, he just sucked as a head coach and didnt do much with it.
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It wasn't even close to being one. The previous 3-4 recruiting classes that Harbaugh had to use his first couple years were very good classes. I want to say they averaged somewhere around being top 10 nationally.
 
Across The Field said:
It wasn't even close to being one. The previous 3-4 recruiting classes that Harbaugh had to use his first couple years were very good classes. I want to say they averaged somewhere around being top 10 nationally.
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Yep and you got people out here wanting to pretend like Harbaugh took over a Akron level roster.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
If a talented roster is losing games, there’s likely some culture issues that need to be fixed too. Hell, didn’t they need to get a transfer QB from Iowa his first year there?
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They did in 2015, but over the next few years Harbaugh brought in several 4/5* QBs, and even brought in 5* transfer Shea Patterson. The QB play under him was godawful until 2022 basically.
 
Butch Jones was a great recruiter at Tennessee, but the culture was terrible so much that the next guy didn’t stand a chance and they didn’t get good until the transfer portal essentially became free agency
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Butch Jones was a great recruiter at Tennessee, but the culture was terrible so much that the next guy didn’t stand a chance and they didn’t get good until the transfer portal essentially became free agency
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I'm not even sure it was a culture problem at michigan before Harbaugh, the coaches were just bad. There's a reason neither of them really did anything after they left michigan.
 
Across The Field said:
I'm not even sure it was a culture problem at michigan before Harbaugh, the coaches were just bad. There's a reason neither of them really did anything after they left michigan.
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Rich Rod wasn’t bad at Arizona and he’s pretty good at Jville State. He was more of a terrible fit than a bad coach IMO. Hoke was a shit coach for sure though
 
Across The Field said:
It's hard to argue that Day very well may just be one of those guys that is a terrific coordinator but isn't meant to be a HC. Then again, I look at Harbaugh's first 6 years at michigan and how horrible of a job he did, and he has an NFL job now.
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I think people are really under appreciating what Harbaugh did. From 1990 - 2014 michigan had 8, 10+ win seasons. We only had 2 since 2000. The year before Harbaugh we had 5 wins and missed a bowl. In his first 4 years, he won 10 games 3 times. He was also up against a fully established (and rolling) Ohio State team that just won a national title. It took him 6 years be he flipped that entirely on its head to the point where OSU is now in turmoil.

Imagine telling that to an OSU fan in 2016 and how crazy they'd laugh at you.
 
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