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Michigan had their chances, but bad play calling and horri QB play wasted a good defensive effort. I was actually pleasantly surprised with Wink this week, figured he'd get burned badly but he let the defense do their thing instead of trying to get cute. Indiana had some really good coverage, but Warren also had guys open and airmailed them. There were plays to be had and they couldn't get them. Edwards was also open a few times and Warren just never tried to get it to him. Enough of the Orjicat bullshit. Campbell needs to go.

Keep winning, Hoosiers. Indiana's a fun team
 
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Fox did indeed get OSU/IU. CBS and NBC continuing to get crap games is really interesting.
 

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Thinking the following programs need to be cut from this conference;

Northwestern
Purdue
Rutgers

Given that drops this conference to an awkward 15 teams, I say you look at Maryland to drop it down to 14 teams. From there you either keep 14, or add 2, such as a Utah and Arizona or Utah Pittsburgh?
 
OregonDucks said:
Thinking the following programs need to be cut from this conference;

Northwestern
Purdue
Rutgers

Given that drops this conference to an awkward 15 teams, I say you look at Maryland to drop it down to 14 teams. From there you either keep 14, or add 2, such as a Utah and Arizona or Utah Pittsburgh?
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Purdue is awful this season in football but they did just finish runner up in round all.

Rutgers is gonna be bowl eligible and might actually continue to improve under Schiano.

Northwestern brings up our test scores
 
OregonDucks said:
Thinking the following programs need to be cut from this conference;

Northwestern
Purdue
Rutgers

Given that drops this conference to an awkward 15 teams, I say you look at Maryland to drop it down to 14 teams. From there you either keep 14, or add 2, such as a Utah and Arizona or Utah Pittsburgh?
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For the past few years including this year, Purdue is the best basketball program in the B1G.

Rutgers basketball is also currently ranked in the top 25.
 
Innermind said:
For the past few years including this year, Purdue is the best basketball program in the B1G.

Rutgers basketball is also currently ranked in the top 25.
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Yeah if we're basing this off of a football/basketball perspective, you'd probably look at like Minnesota, Nebraska, or Iowa before Purdue. Rutgers inexplicably brought in the 4th ranked recruiting bball class in 2024 so they look like they're heading straight up, and the football program is the best it's been in a decade or so.
 
Across The Field said:
Yeah if we're basing this off of a football/basketball perspective, you'd probably look at like Minnesota, Nebraska, or Iowa before Purdue. Rutgers inexplicably brought in the 4th ranked recruiting bball class in 2024 so they look like they're heading straight up, and the football program is the best it's been in a decade or so.
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The programs that historically stink in football, have great bball programs in Purdue, Indiana and Maryland. Although, MD isn't what it was, they still have the most recent National Championship. I'm waiting to see what a program like Michigan State does under Smith. Taking away the Dantonio years, they've been a pretty brutal football program going back 35 years ish. Since 1990 they've only reached 7 regular season wins 6 times, outside of Dantonio. And they are the premier bball program in the conference IMO.
 
ericd7633 said:
The programs that historically stink in football, have great bball programs in Purdue, Indiana and Maryland. Although, MD isn't what it was, they still have the most recent National Championship. I'm waiting to see what a program like Michigan State does under Smith. Taking away the Dantonio years, they've been a pretty brutal football program going back 35 years ish. Since 1990 they've only reached 7 regular season wins 6 times, outside of Dantonio. And they are the premier bball program in the conference IMO.
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Overall I'd definitely agree they're still the premier program. Honestly, if you're looking at things over the course of this century, Purdue probably isn't even top 5 in the conference, but they've obviously made a lot of recent moves.

MD has the most recent title but when it was 2+ decades, a conference switch, and however many coaches ago it doesn't matter when you consider how much they've dropped off in recent years.
 
Across The Field said:
Overall I'd definitely agree they're still the premier program. Honestly, if you're looking at things over the course of this century, Purdue probably isn't even top 5 in the conference, but they've obviously made a lot of recent moves.

MD has the most recent title but when it was 2+ decades, a conference switch, and however many coaches ago it doesn't matter when you consider how much they've dropped off in recent years.
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Purdue is a weird case. Until literally last year, they've been a great regular season program that has struggled in the tournament. I think they're the only program to ever lose to a 12, 13, 14, 15 and 16 seed. Without looking, I'd probably put them 3rd in the league since 2000. Behind MSU and OSU. But it's close to them being 2nd. Unless you're counting the new schools. UCLA would be ahead of them. Because they've had more highs.

I'd go:

1. MSU
2. UCLA
3. OSU
4. Purdue
5. Michigan

Maybe MD over Michigan. They do have a title and an additional FF.
 
Across The Field said:
Overall I'd definitely agree they're still the premier program. Honestly, if you're looking at things over the course of this century, Purdue probably isn't even top 5 in the conference, but they've obviously made a lot of recent moves.

MD has the most recent title but when it was 2+ decades, a conference switch, and however many coaches ago it doesn't matter when you consider how much they've dropped off in recent years.
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Wow, I hadn't realized it had been that long since the last ncaa title
 
ericd7633 said:
Purdue is a weird case. Until literally last year, they've been a great regular season program that has struggled in the tournament. I think they're the only program to ever lose to a 12, 13, 14, 15 and 16 seed. Without looking, I'd probably put them 3rd in the league since 2000. Behind MSU and OSU. But it's close to them being 2nd. Unless you're counting the new schools. UCLA would be ahead of them. Because they've had more highs.

I'd go:

1. MSU
2. UCLA
3. OSU
4. Purdue
5. Michigan

Maybe MD over Michigan. They do have a title and an additional FF.
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I'll be interested to see how Oregon does. This feels like a team that can be top 3 in league if they stay healthy.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
I'll be interested to see how Oregon does. This feels like a team that can be top 3 in league if they stay healthy.
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They've looked good early on. I think the roster is pretty good. If you get Washington State Bamba and not Nova Bamba that'd be huge. The Players Era tournament will be a really nice test.
 
ericd7633 said:
Purdue is a weird case. Until literally last year, they've been a great regular season program that has struggled in the tournament. I think they're the only program to ever lose to a 12, 13, 14, 15 and 16 seed. Without looking, I'd probably put them 3rd in the league since 2000. Behind MSU and OSU. But it's close to them being 2nd. Unless you're counting the new schools. UCLA would be ahead of them. Because they've had more highs.

I'd go:

1. MSU
2. UCLA
3. OSU
4. Purdue
5. Michigan

Maybe MD over Michigan. They do have a title and an additional FF.
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The lack of postseason success is why I ding Purdue so much. It's wild that Painter took over after Keady, who had the success he had, in 2005 yet he didn't even advance past a sweet 16 until 2018-2019. One Final Four since 1980? Come on, this is the one thing you're supposed to be good at.

Not counting the new PAC schools, I'd have the 2000s as MSU, OSU, Wisconsin, michigan, Illinois, then either Purdue or Indiana though I'd maybe lean Purdue.
 
Across The Field said:
The lack of postseason success is why I ding Purdue so much. It's wild that Painter took over after Keady, who had the success he had, in 2005 yet he didn't even advance past a sweet 16 until 2018-2019. One Final Four since 1980? Come on, this is the one thing you're supposed to be good at.

Not counting the new PAC schools, I'd have the 2000s as MSU, OSU, Wisconsin, michigan, Illinois, then either Purdue or Indiana though I'd maybe lean Purdue.
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I guess it depends on what the criteria is. Michigan has had more highs, but they were absolutely terrible until about 2010 or so. They've only made the tournament 11 times since 2000 which is kind of staggering. Illinois and Purdue are very similar in terms of high end results. 1 title game appearance, 3 E8's, same amount of S16's I think. That's a good call on Wisconsin, they completely slipped my mind. Id actually have them 2nd.

MSU, Wisconsin, OSU/Purdue, and Michigan would probably be my top 5. But if you wanted to argue Illinois I'd be okay with that. They've had more regular season success.
 
ericd7633 said:
I guess it depends on what the criteria is. Michigan has had more highs, but they were absolutely terrible until about 2010 or so. They've only made the tournament 11 times since 2000 which is kind of staggering. Illinois and Purdue are very similar in terms of high end results. 1 title game appearance, 3 E8's, same amount of S16's I think. That's a good call on Wisconsin, they completely slipped my mind. Id actually have them 2nd.

MSU, Wisconsin, OSU/Purdue, and Michigan would probably be my top 5. But if you wanted to argue Illinois I'd be okay with that. They've had more regular season success.
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Yeah, it's been a very uneven millennium so far. They were on the cusp a few times under Amaker winning 20+ three times in four years from 2004-07, but they couldn't crack the tournament. Finally made it over the hump two years later under Beilein, but I'd say it took another three years for Michigan to return to being a top program and that ran lasted until about 2021. 2022 team was kinda meh, but made it to the Sweet Sixteen anyway. Went to the NIT in '23 and sucked ass last season
 
I'd definitely put Wisconsin ahead of Purdue and Michigan. Only missed the tournament three times, one of those being the COVID year (they probably would have made it) and another was a 20-15 year
 
ericd7633 said:
I guess it depends on what the criteria is. Michigan has had more highs, but they were absolutely terrible until about 2010 or so. They've only made the tournament 11 times since 2000 which is kind of staggering. Illinois and Purdue are very similar in terms of high end results. 1 title game appearance, 3 E8's, same amount of S16's I think. That's a good call on Wisconsin, they completely slipped my mind. Id actually have them 2nd.

MSU, Wisconsin, OSU/Purdue, and Michigan would probably be my top 5. But if you wanted to argue Illinois I'd be okay with that. They've had more regular season success.
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Probably need to have tiers honestly. MSU probably tier of their own, then OSU/Wisconsin a small notch below them, then michigan/Illinois/Purdue a larger notch below them. Like you said, criteria is the main differentiator.
 
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