USC and UCLA planning to leave for B10 by 2024!

trojanfan12 said:
What I heard was that USC was the main target, but the B1G wanted 2 teams, so USC suggested UCLA, which adds a basketball blue blood and preserves that rivalry. If what @CorpRebel said about ND not being ready is right, then if ND was ready to join a conference, it likely would have been them and USC getting invited.
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Will Notre Dame ever be ready if no one’s preventing them from qualifying for the playoff?
 
ralphiewvu said:
Will Notre Dame ever be ready if no one’s preventing them from qualifying for the playoff?
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I think if things get to the point where they could get significantly more money being in a conference than they get on their own, they will. Outside of that...there's really no reason for them to.
 
The chances of UCLA or USC ever going to the SEC were somewhere between zip and nada. Their going to the B1G is enough of a stretch as it is. Travel and cultural mismatches were deal killers for that flight of fancy. It won’t be easy but the California schools will have a legitimate chance of being successful playing in a new conference they can more easily grow into over time.
 
trojanfan12 said:
I think if things get to the point where they could get significantly more money being in a conference than they get on their own, they will. Outside of that...there's really no reason for them to.
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I agree to a point. But projections are already pointing to 100mill per during the next B1G negotiations. Is it ever going to get better then 3x+ what you are making now? Absolutely there really is no reason too. But truthfully until the B1G and SEC shut them out of a playoff, I don’t see them moving from independence football status ever.
 
ralphiewvu said:
Will Notre Dame ever be ready if no one’s preventing them from qualifying for the playoff?
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If we cant get games because everyone goes to 10/11/12 conference games schedule, that would be another reason we will. I'm more worried about that than access to the CFP. We'll always have access no matter what happens with conference size.
 
ericd7633 said:
If we cant get games because everyone goes to 10/11/12 conference games schedule, that would be another reason we will. I'm more worried about that than access to the CFP. We'll always have access no matter what happens with conference size.
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I’m thinking those will be connected if anything. Your rivals will always play you as long as they have non conference games. Giving up an ND coming to ones field if you are someone like Navy will never happen. The B1G would never prevent SC from scheduling you guys in the non conference iMO. I think you’ll always have games unless the B1G and SEC form their own league then you’d need to join.
 
ralphiewvu said:
Will Notre Dame ever be ready if no one’s preventing them from qualifying for the playoff?
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ND's biggest issue will be finding enough quality opponents to field a CFP quality schedule. I'm guessing with these "super conferences" -- teams aren't going to be looking for high profile OOC games, as they will have plenty of those games in conference.

If you have OU and Texas joining the teams in the SEC, USC and UCLA joining the teams in the B1G -- who is ND going to schedule to get their SOS up there? Clemson, but they aren't playing them every year. They have high profile games with OSU, A&M, USC, Miami, FSU, but once the super conferences start -- I can't imagine those teams keep those games, as cross over games could put those teams in high profile games.
 
trojanfan12 said:
So they added a basketball blue blood with a competitive football team , created a reasonable travel partner for USC on the Olympic sports and took away the SECs only remaining shot at getting part of the LA market...seems like you have answered your own question.
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Agree I think it’s all figured out now, and it’s a good move by the BIG.

SEC needs to get FSU, UNC , Miami & Notre Dame now to counter. Keep the BIG out of Florida and break their hearts with ND/UNC.
 
ericd7633 said:
If we cant get games because everyone goes to 10/11/12 conference games schedule, that would be another reason we will. I'm more worried about that than access to the CFP. We'll always have access no matter what happens with conference size.
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That is what i'm thinking -- with the potential cross over games they will have in these super conferences -- I can't imagine teams will want to play more high profile games in their OOC. I see the super conference teams scheduling a couple cup cakes to get the team some reps before their conference games.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
ND's biggest issue will be finding enough quality opponents to field a CFP quality schedule. I'm guessing with these "super conferences" -- teams aren't going to be looking for high profile OOC games, as they will have plenty of those games in conference.

If you have OU and Texas joining the teams in the SEC, USC and UCLA joining the teams in the B1G -- who is ND going to schedule to get their SOS up there? Clemson, but they aren't playing them every year. They have high profile games with OSU, A&M, USC, Miami, FSU, but once the super conferences start -- I can't imagine those teams keep those games, as cross over games could put those teams in high profile games.
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These teams will still have OOC games. I get what you mean to a point but teams like Navy and SC won’t drop them unless they have to. Also their schedule with these 5 ACC games hasn’t been some kind of gauntlet given what the ACC has been the last 2 or 3 years.
 
ralphiewvu said:
These teams will still have OOC games. I get what you mean to a point but teams like Navy and SC won’t drop them unless they have to. Also their schedule with these 5 ACC games hasn’t been some kind of gauntlet given what the ACC has been the last 2 or 3 years.
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If OU and Texas start having crossover games with a Bama, Georgia, etc., on top of their conference games, whoever they may be -- I'm guessing teams like A&M, LSU, etc. -- the last thing they are going to do is schedule more high profile OOC games.
Same can be said with USC, if they end up playing OSU, UM, PSU, etc. in conference -- they aren't going to be scheduling ND as the last thing they'd want is another cross country trip. I'm sure if ND agreed to travelling to USC for the game each year -- they'd be alright with keeping it going.

I think these superconferences are going to put an end to alot of long standing rivalry games. The end goal for teams is still getting to the CFP, but they aren't going play a murderers row of teams each year to get there.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
If OU and Texas start having crossover games with a Bama, Georgia, etc., on top of their conference games, whoever they may be -- I'm guessing teams like A&M, LSU, etc. -- the last thing they are going to do is schedule more high profile OOC games.
Same can be said with USC, if they end up playing OSU, UM, PSU, etc. in conference -- they aren't going to be scheduling ND as the last thing they'd want is another cross country trip. I'm sure if ND agreed to travelling to USC for the game each year -- they'd be alright with keeping it going.

I think these superconferences are going to put an end to alot of long standing rivalry games. The end goal for teams is still getting to the CFP, but they aren't going play a murderers row of teams each year to get there.
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You really think USC is going to give up ND? Damn
You really think ND will agree to going to USC year after year? Double damn
 
Jon Deaux said:
You really think USC is going to give up ND? Damn
You really think ND will agree to going to USC year after year? Double damn
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Do I think they will? I truly don't know, as I don't know how the super conferences are going to be scheduled. I do know, if they are going to have to play, at least 4 "road games" in conference and have to go on 6 hour plane ride there and 6 hour plane ride back -- the last thing they are going to want to do with an OOC game is spend another 12 hours in a plane.

With the monster upgrade in yearly television money -- they don't need high profile OOC games to draw in fans and ratings. I know it is a LOOOOOONG standing game, but no one saw teams like OU, Texas, USC leaving their conferences behind
 
ralphiewvu said:
I have no doubt unequal revenue sharing is coming. But it could be a case of be careful what you wish for. A tradional blueblood has a decade in the dumpster and then what? Does their revenue take a hit for an up and comer that has been helping said conference more competitively and financially?

Someone like Duke? It depends what the SEC and B1Gs end game is. Do they want 20 teams a pop? 22? 24? More. Its a numbers game.
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I think the end up game is gonna be pretty big. 24-28+ teams big. There's always a way to make the pie work if you slice small enough slices. Control is itself valuable. FOX for instance controls the LA market. Is UCLA all that by themselves? Not really, but they're in LA and shut off UO/UW to satisfy the short term needs of USC, hurt their competition for SOCAL recruits, add a travel partner, and the BIG/Fox shut out the SEC and ESPN from LA.

If it was just the most profitable, Oregon would've gotten the invite over UCLA.
 
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NewPhoneWhoDis said:
If OU and Texas start having crossover games with a Bama, Georgia, etc., on top of their conference games, whoever they may be -- I'm guessing teams like A&M, LSU, etc. -- the last thing they are going to do is schedule more high profile OOC games.
Same can be said with USC, if they end up playing OSU, UM, PSU, etc. in conference -- they aren't going to be scheduling ND as the last thing they'd want is another cross country trip. I'm sure if ND agreed to travelling to USC for the game each year -- they'd be alright with keeping it going.

I think these superconferences are going to put an end to alot of long standing rivalry games. The end goal for teams is still getting to the CFP, but they aren't going play a murderers row of teams each year to get there.
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USC Ain’t giving up a ND if they have non con games. Now if non con games go away or the B1G only plays the SEC in non con games then I could see it.
 
Top Cat said:
I think the end up game is gonna be pretty big. 24-28+ teams big. There's always a way to make the pie work if you slice small enough slices. Control is itself valuable. FOX for instance controls the LA market. Is UCLA all that by themselves? Not really, but they're in LA and shut off UO/UW to satisfy the short term needs of USC, hurt their competition for SOCAL recruits, add a travel partner, and the BIG/Fox shut out the SEC and ESPN from LA.

If it was just the most profitable, Oregon would've gotten the invite over UCLA.
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Fair points
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Do I think they will? I truly don't know, as I don't know how the super conferences are going to be scheduled. I do know, if they are going to have to play, at least 4 "road games" in conference and have to go on 6 hour plane ride there and 6 hour plane ride back -- the last thing they are going to want to do with an OOC game is spend another 12 hours in a plane.

With the monster upgrade in yearly television money -- they don't need high profile OOC games to draw in fans and ratings. I know it is a LOOOOOONG standing game, but no one saw teams like OU, Texas, USC leaving their conferences behind
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If ND obstructs USC path to the playoff and their conference money is the same either way then.. may have to cut em loose.
Killing traditional rivalries ain’t no thang these days sadly.
 
CoalTrain said:
If ND obstructs USC path to the playoff and their conference money is the same either way then.. may have to cut em loose.
Killing traditional rivalries ain’t no thang these days sadly.
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USC literally has no reason what so ever anymore -- they will have a conference schedule tough enough to reach the CFP -- scheduling elite OOC games won't be necessary for them or any team in a super conference.
 
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