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Deep Creek said:
I hope NASCAR learned their lessons. They should have never gone to so many of the "cloned" so called "modern" long tracks where they just mainly drive around in circles. Yeah the speeds were greater but it wasn't that exciting of racing IMHO. Kids/grands live real close to Texas Motor Speedway but I won't even go there anymore. I'd rather go visit the local dirt tracks than those monsters.
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Charlotte is really the only 1.5 mile track that needs to be on the schedule. The drivers loved Atlanta, but the racing from a viewing standpoint hasn’t been good in years. Texas is probably the worst of them all.

Michigan is worth keeping on the schedule, but why they decided to clone it for a track in Southern California is beyond me, especially when the Riverside road course was a SoCal mainstay for decades.

The racing this year should be the best it’s been in a while with the road course and short track heavy schedule and they finally ditching that stupid low horsepower, high downforce package they had for the 1.5 and 2 mile tracks. High horsepower and low downforce always makes for the best oval stock car racing. Plus the new generation of car is supposed to put it more in the hands of the driver than the team

Hopefully the second trip to COTA will be better than the first when a monsoon came through and was raining too hard for even F1 to race(but NASCAR tried anyways and damn near got Cole Custer killed due to lack of visibility)
 
Deep Creek said:
I hope NASCAR learned their lessons. They should have never gone to so many of the "cloned" so called "modern" long tracks where they just mainly drive around in circles. Yeah the speeds were greater but it wasn't that exciting of racing IMHO. Kids/grands live real close to Texas Motor Speedway but I won't even go there anymore. I'd rather go visit the local dirt tracks than those monsters.
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"Want to spend your weekend watching 4 hours of racing and sitting in 14 hours of traffic? Visit TMS".
 
FFS. I just saw that they’re gonna run 36 cars on that 1/4 mile track. The pole sitter will be taking the green with the back of the pack right in front of him.
 
NASCAR isn't southern enough anymore for my liking

die already
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
FFS. I just saw that they’re gonna run 36 cars on that 1/4 mile track. The pole sitter will be taking the green with the back of the pack right in front of him.
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LMAO. So if you lined the entire field up in a single file line, perfectly bumper to bumper...it would take up half of the track. (200" car x 36 cars = 7200/12 = 600'). :pound:

NASCAR trying to fund itself with fines for rubbin?
 
fordman84 said:
LMAO. So if you lined the entire field up in a single file line, perfectly bumper to bumper...it would take up half of the track. (200" car x 36 cars = 7200/12 = 600'). :pound:

NASCAR trying to fund itself with fines for rubbin?
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They don’t do fines for that anymore, pretty well anything on the track is acceptable these days unless it’s something like what Matt Kenseth did to Joey Logano(though Jeff Gordon did the exact same thing to Clint Bowyer a few years earlier and took out other cars as well and got no punishment while Kenseth got a 2 race suspension)
 
Question. How many nooses are in the garages?
 
Nebraska's Trev Alberts tried and failed at that adventure.

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Husker race car project abandoned

A really fast car is sitting in a Concord, N.H., garage.
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I actually have one the 1:24 scale diecast of that car in my memorabilia collection. I don't remember what I paid for it new, but I expected it to be worth more than 40 bucks 25 years later.

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That being said I wouldn't expect a full fledged NASCAR track to have success in SoCal.

Anyone interested in that type of stuff in SoCal can just make the 4 hour drive to Vegas for it.

The nearest NASCAR track to Omaha is in Kansas City, Missouri. I have friends that have season tickets and make the 3 hour drive to the races on the regular.
 
Red_Alert said:
That being said I wouldn't expect a full fledged NASCAR track to have success in SoCal.

Anyone interested in that type of stuff in SoCal can just make the 4 hour drive to Vegas for it.

The nearest NASCAR track to Omaha is in Kansas City, Missouri. I have friends that have season tickets and make the 3 hour drive to the races on the regular.
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There’s been a track in Fontana for 25 years now. It has been a 2 mile Michigan clone until this year, they decided to turn it into a short track instead of repaving the 2 mile track, which was a good move.

And NASCAR raced at the Riverside road course for decades until the track closed down in the late 80’s.

Pretty much, NASCAR has been going to SoCal since nearly the beginning with only a very short break from 1989-1997 of not going there at least once. In fact, the season used to open and close with the Riverside road course, the Daytona 500 would be after the Riverside race
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
There’s been a track in Fontana for 25 years now. It has been a 2 mile Michigan clone until this year, they decided to turn it into a short track instead of repaving the 2 mile track, which was a good move.

And NASCAR raced at the Riverside road course for decades until the track closed down in the late 80’s.

Pretty much, NASCAR has been going to SoCal since nearly the beginning with only a very short break from 1989-1997 of not going there at least once. In fact, the season used to open and close with the Riverside road course, the Daytona 500 would be after the Riverside race
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Seems to me that makes my case in that it wasn't very well supported.
Would they support a high bank track in SoCal when peeps that are actually interested in NASCAR can just drive to Vegas?
 
I admit I don't follow NASCAR at all. I have buddies where watching NASCAR on Sundays is what they do.
Whether it's in a bar or in their homes. They treat it like an NFL watch party.
 
Red_Alert said:
Seems to me that makes my case in that it wasn't very well supported.
Would they support a high bank track in SoCal when peeps that are actually interested in NASCAR can just drive to Vegas?
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The Fontana track always had good crowds. It was Jimmie Johnson and Kevin Harvick’s home track. With oval racing, the older the surface, the better the racing, at least with bigger tracks. The racing at Fontana the last few years was the best in the track’s history thanks in large part to the old surface, but the surface had gotten worn out to the point that it was damaging cars, and a repave wouldn’t be popular, but a short track would be(a short track that is still big enough for a full field of stock cars at least).

Riverside was also a popular track, but NASCAR wanted to go to the newer road course in Sonoma in northern CA, where they still race at today. If such a thing happened today with road courses and short tracks being the most popular races(other than the gimmicks that Daytona and Talladega have turned into), they’d probably race at both, but back then there was only room for a couple road course races a year
 
Only allowed to drive to the left there
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
The Fontana track always had good crowds. It was Jimmie Johnson and Kevin Harvick’s home track. With oval racing, the older the surface, the better the racing, at least with bigger tracks. The racing at Fontana the last few years was the best in the track’s history thanks in large part to the old surface, but the surface had gotten worn out to the point that it was damaging cars, and a repave wouldn’t be popular, but a short track would be(a short track that is still big enough for a full field of stock cars at least).

Riverside was also a popular track, but NASCAR wanted to go to the newer road course in Sonoma in northern CA, where they still race at today. If such a thing happened today with road courses and short tracks being the most popular races(other than the gimmicks that Daytona and Talladega have turned into), they’d probably race at both, but back then there was only room for a couple road course races a year
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Like I said I don't follow NASCAR at all. What would you rate the KC track?
 
Red_Alert said:
Like I said I don't follow NASCAR at all. What would you rate the KC track?
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One of the better 1.5 mile tracks, but I’m not really a fan of 1.5 mile tracks. Better than Atlanta for sure though, not as good as Charlotte though
 
But apparently it’ll be next season before Fontana gets converted into a short track. Looks like they have to run the 2 mile track one more time
 
Red_Alert said:
That being said I wouldn't expect a full fledged NASCAR track to have success in SoCal.

Anyone interested in that type of stuff in SoCal can just make the 4 hour drive to Vegas for it.

The nearest NASCAR track to Omaha is in Kansas City, Missouri. I have friends that have season tickets and make the 3 hour drive to the races on the regular.
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NASCAR people are batshit crazy and plan their family vacations around races to spend time in places like Talladega in their RVs. They spend huge cash to watch cars go around a track and make unbearable noise.

Not going to lie build it and they will come. Now if you don’t make it a fun environment they may not come back but the NASCAR people know how to put on a show and they know their audience. New track and new location will definitely be successful in the beginning.
 
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