UT and OU to SEC in 2024

Red_Alert said:
Eh?

Average ticket prices to a tejas football game are $61.
DKR capacity is 100,119.

$61 x 100,119 = $6,107,259 revenue.
That's not even talking gameday concessions and sales of (licensed) apparel of which the university gets a cut of.

A Big 12 team gets $42 million/year for their media rights. At 12 games that's $3.5 million per game.

There's good reason these teams want home games.
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what's the avg price when Bama came through? the concessions? That game was packed well before kickoff unlike vs UTSA a week later.. I know the hotel industry in the city was happy.. they were charging like $400 a night.. sorta the same way the Tuscaloosa hotels are doing for this septembers game (which is the reason why i have a room about 20 minutes away :( )

I get that schools are going to schedule 2/3 OOC games with lesser schools for home games, but can you please throw an actual bone for the fans with the other?

Can't tell me aggy made a lot of money hosting U fucking Mass
 
Volbound1700 said:
EXACTLY... as stated, teams want the home game with no return. That is why we get games like Ball State at Tennessee.
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I think this is a bit antiquated. Value of a home game was pretty substantial to a University, when the TV contracts were 10-20 million. If estimates of 100 million on the next contract are true, a home game is a rounding error for an Athletic Department.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Historically, big football schools generate more revenue (not necessarily profit) off a home football game with merchandise, concession, and ticket sales than you do off TV contracts.

Having 100,000 people visit Knoxville to watch home football games must not have impact on the local economy at all according to your logic.

But no, it must because all of these schools are afraid to play other Power 5 teams. (That sounds like a child's take on why there are so many easy home games).
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This is conflating the argument. City council and Athletic department are not one in the same
 
Red_Alert said:
Eh?

Average ticket prices to a tejas football game are $61.
DKR capacity is 100,119.

$61 x 100,119 = $6,107,259 revenue.
That's not even talking gameday concessions and sales of (licensed) apparel of which the university gets a cut of.

A Big 12 team gets $42 million/year for their media rights. At 12 games that's $3.5 million per game.

There's good reason these teams want home games.
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These figures are correct revenue numbers, but miss the big picture. Not to mention expenses. Ticket revenue is much larger. The big money isn’t made on the face value of the tickets. To buy season tickets, it requires a donation. Call it 2k to 1 million+ depending on where you want to park your ass. (Have to love the fact that Universities require this and it is tax deductible). These numbers dont fluctuate for 7 or 8 home games. Texas made around 150 million in revenue. If the new SEC contract is true, that is another 50 million give or take. An extra home game is basically pocket change now.
 
Red_Alert said:
Eh?

Average ticket prices to a tejas football game are $61.
DKR capacity is 100,119.

$61 x 100,119 = $6,107,259 revenue.
That's not even talking gameday concessions and sales of (licensed) apparel of which the university gets a cut of.

A Big 12 team gets $42 million/year for their media rights. At 12 games that's $3.5 million per game.

There's good reason these teams want home games.
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Agree and most game tickets now are going for over $ 100 each.

Not to mention the events around the game and the impact to the local economy.

Sure the TV deals are starting to catch-up or pass it NOW but history has shown they made more off home games than TV Contracts.

You could see more big-time OOC matchups in near future with expanded playoff and push for TV deals.
 
Thiefery said:
bro they aren't making that much vs Ball fucking state

UT plays UTEP, RICE a lot because it's giving money to schools in their system.. Not because UT is making sooooo much money hosting them lol
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Actually they are, if 90,000 people show up for those games, that is still almost 7-8 million in revenue in just ticket sales (not to mention parking, concessions, merchandise, etc.).
 
Codaxx said:
This is conflating the argument. City council and Athletic department are not one in the same
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It is still taken into account. People were putting pressure on UT's athletic departments for years regarding the struggles in merchandise sales, home game attendance, etc. when we were down. I was hearing about it in the state. The political pressure is still real.
 
Volbound1700 said:
It is still taken into account. People were putting pressure on UT's athletic departments for years regarding the struggles in merchandise sales, home game attendance, etc. when we were down. I was hearing about it in the state. The political pressure is still real.
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Texas AD just said 7 home games was the target.
 
That game in Dallas costs us 5 home games per decade. Or 10 per decade when we weren't in the same conference.

Oklahoma and Texas have both played fewer home games, than most big programs, historically, because of it.
 
outofyourmind said:
That game in Dallas costs us 5 home games per decade. Or 10 per decade when we weren't in the same conference.

Oklahoma and Texas have both played fewer home games, than most big programs, historically, because of it.
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Florida and Georgia are in the same boat. This is why Neutral Sites have become more of a thing because you both split the funds or get a cut. It isn't a total loss like a road game but not a big win like a home game either.
 
outofyourmind said:
That game in Dallas costs us 5 home games per decade. Or 10 per decade when we weren't in the same conference.

Oklahoma and Texas have both played fewer home games, than most big programs, historically, because of it.
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yes but it makes the most sense being in Dallas for both schools.. pretty much the same distance from each campus.. CDC said that the agreement at the cotton bowl is coming to an end (current contract). He's looking forward to another deal to stay there and move the kickoff to 2:30pm CST :)
 
Thiefery said:
bro they ain't getting paid that much for a Ball St home game.. Quit justifying this
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An SEC home game (same would be true for Texas) is worth an average of 5 million to the school with tickets, parking concessions and so forth. You typically have to pay between 500K and 1mm depending on the opponent but it’s a nice payday.

When you factor in the impact to the local economy that number just goes up. There is a lot of pressure on athletic departments to get home games even if they are crappy.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Florida and Georgia are in the same boat. This is why Neutral Sites have become more of a thing because you both split the funds or get a cut. It isn't a total loss like a road game but not a big win like a home game either.
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Athletic departments make about the same that is why you see payouts in the 5 million range for neutral site games.

The loser is the local economy.
 
Codaxx said:
These figures are correct revenue numbers, but miss the big picture. Not to mention expenses. Ticket revenue is much larger. The big money isn’t made on the face value of the tickets. To buy season tickets, it requires a donation. Call it 2k to 1 million+ depending on where you want to park your ass. (Have to love the fact that Universities require this and it is tax deductible). These numbers dont fluctuate for 7 or 8 home games. Texas made around 150 million in revenue. If the new SEC contract is true, that is another 50 million give or take. An extra home game is basically pocket change now.
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FYI, not tax deductible any more.
 
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Volbound1700 said:
Florida and Georgia are in the same boat. This is why Neutral Sites have become more of a thing because you both split the funds or get a cut. It isn't a total loss like a road game but not a big win like a home game either.
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Pretty sure WLOCP will be ending soon. I’m torn on it.
 
Wild Turkey said:
An SEC home game (same would be true for Texas) is worth an average of 5 million to the school with tickets, parking concessions and so forth. You typically have to pay between 500K and 1mm depending on the opponent but it’s a nice payday.

When you factor in the impact to the local economy that number just goes up. There is a lot of pressure on athletic departments to get home games even if they are crappy.
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It’s just isn’t something that is big for Texas. Austin likes it when Texas has a home game, but the economy isn’t dependent on them
 
Codaxx said:
It’s just isn’t something that is big for Texas. Austin likes it when Texas has a home game, but the economy isn’t dependent on them
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You have to admit for College football that is pretty unique. For example, Nashville isn't dependent on Vandy games but everyone else in the SEC will feel it if there is one less home game.

I imagine in the current Big12 all the local economies with the exception of Austin feel a hit if there is one less game and that scenario exists all over college towns in America.

I get that you feel "special" but because it is good for Texas doesn't mean it is good for everyone else.
 
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