What If JFK Wasn’t a Conspiracy

dbldwn711 said:
I’m going to go back to what I said in post 41

nobody has given ANY type of theory about who did it. Everyone just keeps throwing random bits of information (some aren’t even facts) and saying “see… what about this”.

@Orlando_Eagles and I are saying LHO acted alone. Everyone else is saying he didn’t. Step up… if he didn’t who helped him? How did they do it? What proof are you relying upon to support your beliefs?
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I agree with you.
 
Nosferatu said:
Why were there no notes at all from the interviews with Oswald after he was arrested?

The FBI told Dallas police that there would be an attempt on Oswald's life and they ignored it, why?
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There was. They were produced something like 20 years ago. Three copies. I don’t trust them though.

To me this is just another of those CYA fuck ups that fuel so much.
 
dbldwn711 said:
Ill add this.

Oswald worked in that building. He was familiar with the plaza, the sight lines, everything. This was not “foreign territory” for him. He didn’t have to GO somewhere to do the shooting. He had SOME amount of time to think about and plan those shots. That’s why people think he hit with the first shot. However, the THIRD shot was the most precise shot. Why? Couple of reasons. First, he could adjust his aim after missing the head with the first two. Second, the motorcade slowed down bc the driver turned backwards to see what was happening. He can’t speed away if his head is turned looking back. Lastly, by the time of the third shot Kennedy is in the open. The tree is no longer an obstruction.

Oswald has the benefit of readjusting his shot, the car is slowing down and Kennedy is the open. The third shot was the easiest.
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I think Oswald missed the first shot. It was the girl stopping and looking back, but no one showing being hit. It’s also when the car would have had some tree interference in from that window.
 
RoyMunson said:
first shot is the easiest.

Take the re-enactments by actual marksmen and I'll bet ZERO of them missed the first shot.
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The problem is that there has been tests like this that have proven and dis proven it was possible.

Another one is the tired act where theorists have seized upon one of Oswalds rifle tests where he wasn’t amazing, and ignored all the tests where he tested rather high.
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
I think Oswald missed the first shot. It was the girl stopping and looking back, but no one showing being hit. It’s also when the car would have had some tree interference in from that window.
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i agree. The girl stopping for no reason and looking back is just one of the big pieces of evidence that supports that. I also agree it’s one of the biggest.
 
dbldwn711 said:
I’m going to go back to what I said in post 41

nobody has given ANY type of theory about who did it. Everyone just keeps throwing random bits of information (some aren’t even facts) and saying “see… what about this”.

@Orlando_Eagles and I are saying LHO acted alone. Almost everyone else is saying he didn’t. Step up… if he didn’t who helped him? How did they do it? What proof are you relying upon to support your beliefs?
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are you saying he also decided to do this by himself?
 
RoyMunson said:
are you saying he also decided to do this by himself?
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He decided to try to take out General Walker on his own earlier in the year. It’s not without precedent in his case.
 
The headshot was only 81 meters away. That’s about 265 feet.

marines are trained and tested to shoot at distances of 200, 300 and 500 feet. This shot was WELL within those ranges.
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
I think Oswald missed the first shot. It was the girl stopping and looking back, but no one showing being hit. It’s also when the car would have had some tree interference in from that window.
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dbldwn711 said:
i agree. The girl stopping for no reason and looking back is just one of the big pieces of evidence that supports that. I also agree it’s one of the biggest.
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dbldwn711 said:
James Tague was standing in front of the triple overpass. He had been driving that day and pulled his car over because of traffic. He was BEHIND the grassy knoll. When he was shot he was looking UP dealey plaza towards the motorcade. How could the shot come from the grassy knoll?

After the shooting, a policeman approached him. He saw the cut on tagues face. The cop then noticed a fresh nick in the curbing and concluded that the bullet had struck the curb, kicked up some asphalt which struck tague in the face. The officer concluded that the bullet came from the TSBD
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Tague was not shot. And was not looking at the motorcade when Kennedy was.
 
RoyMunson said:
completely

So Ruby killed him just to kill him?
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I think he did. You obviously disagree.

before we talk about Ruby let me ask you this.

Do you think the same people who you believe helped Oswald plan this ALSO helped Oswald plan the Walker shooting or did he do that one on his own?
 
dbldwn711 said:
I’m going to go back to what I said in post 41

nobody has given ANY type of theory about who did it. Everyone just keeps throwing random bits of information (some aren’t even facts) and saying “see… what about this”.

@Orlando_Eagles and I are saying LHO acted alone. Almost everyone else is saying he didn’t. Step up… if he didn’t who helped him? How did they do it? What proof are you relying upon to support your beliefs?
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Who cares who did it, the entire point of the discussion is Oswald didn’t, it’s not up to us to prove who did.
 
dbldwn711 said:
The headshot was only 81 meters away. That’s about 265 feet.

marines are trained and tested to shoot at distances of 200, 300 and 500 feet. This shot was WELL within those ranges.
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guy that can hit a moving target from 265 feet and 6 stories up took a shot with a tree obstruction. Those 2 things together don't make sense.
 
dbldwn711 said:
I think he did. You obviously disagree.

before we talk about Ruby let me ask you this.

Do you think the same people who you believe helped Oswald plan this ALSO helped Oswald plan the Walker shooting or did he do that one on his own?
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I have no idea.
 
Nosferatu said:
Who cares who did it, the entire point of the discussion is Oswald didn’t, it’s not up to us to prove who did.
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Good for you. I would have said this in the recent past. Well, I might have said I have concerns on him being the sole shooter. I have far less concern with it now.
 
broncosmitty said:
Tague was not shot. And was not looking at the motorcade when Kennedy was.
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I never said he was shot. And yes he was looking at the motorcade coming at him. He was standing right in front of the triple overpass very close to where he had pulled his car over because of traffic. He got out of his car, was standing in front of the triple overpass when he was cut on the face by asphalt that got kicked up by a ricochetted bullet.

do you dispute that?

do you dispute the cop coming up to him and seeing the fresh Nick in the curb? Do you dispute the cop determining that the shot that caused the Nick in the curb came from the TSBD?

what source do you have that Tague testified that THIS shot came from the knoll?
 
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