What Is The PAC’s or Big 12’s Move?

Wild Turkey said:
Just watch.

If AZ, ASU, Utah and Colorado get serious and announce they are moving in 2025 then Oregon and Washington will get super serious. They have time and will wait on the B1G but I don’t see it taking long. ND isn’t going anywhere soon and Oregon and Washington will join before the opportunity slips away. The Big 12 will wait as if they get the 4 mentioned it will mean the PAC is done and eventually the other schools will come to them.
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Noteworthy that Arizona, ASU and Utah have made statement claiming the Big 12 stories aren't true and CU is planning an emergency meeting that's closed to the public. Is there a chance the Buffs make the move and nobody follows them? It would be hilarious to watch Colorado do that twice.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I actually read somewhere that if the Pac12 falls below 9 members, it automatically disbands. Is that correct?
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source? i have never seen nor heard that before
 
duckboy33 said:
Noteworthy that Arizona, ASU and Utah have made statement claiming the Big 12 stories aren't true and CU is planning an emergency meeting that's closed to the public. Is there a chance the Buffs make the move and nobody follows them? It would be hilarious to watch Colorado do that twice.
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while it would be i think pac 10 with them is better than without. even if they are crap
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I am liking the B12 more and more if they add those 6 teams from the PAC. You also appear to have an entertainment oriented commissioner who could shake things up. Do something like 2 divisions, 12th week you play 1 v. 2, 2 v. 1, and the 3 v. 3, 4 v. 4. Then the two winners of those first 2 games play for the Conf championship. Schedule crazy OOC games with all takers from the SEC and the B1G. Own Thurs and Friday night as much as I hate the idea. He's going to have to try new and crazy things.
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I absolutely agree trying new and crazy things to get fans is going to need to happen. But I’m not for scrub Night games. I understand they are going to happen but it’s still so tough to support it on a week Night. Hell we have 3 just this year and I already hate it. Thanks ACC…..

Love that conference championship idea though. That’s be sweet.
 
Deep Creek said:
I've said this all along. People yak ad naseum like equal shares of television revenue is the cat's meow. If so, then why not equally share gate/concession/teeshirts and all other types of revenue?
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Yes, you most certainly had said that ... often. :beer2: Here is the deal ... in the SEC each team is seen as an equal even though we know some are better than others. Bama, UGA, UF (historically), LSU and a few others have driven more revenue, but as I have said often you have to tiers of teams. You can't have just Tier 1 teams. Then they would beat each other and they wouldn't be tier 1 teams. Using Vandy as the example, they have been good at hoops from time to time, and they are the best team over the last 15 years at baseball, the no. 3 sport. And they provide some academic cover. And they have been in the league forever. We look at the league as a whole and Bama needs the Vandy's of the world to make it work. Maybe the day comes where it is so merciless that they start doing what you suggest - goodness knows they are screwing everything else up regarding tradition. But for now, we stick together and everyone gets an equal share, even if some of it is for being a whipping boy in football.
 
ralphiewvu said:
I absolutely agree trying new and crazy things to get fans is going to need to happen. But I’m not for scrub Night games. I understand they are going to happen but it’s still so tough to support it on a week Night. Hell we have 3 just this year and I already hate it. Thanks ACC…..

Love that conference championship idea though. That’s be sweet.
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I have non-Saturday games, too. Just thinking that they need to try to get games where they are the only option with no or little competition.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I have non-Saturday games, too. Just thinking that they need to try to get games where they are the only option with no or little competition.
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I think there is competition though. Thursdays the nfl will still usually beat CFB in ratings, Fridays typically some that would watch are at high school games or out. I do agree something different is needed but I’m not for the Thursday/Friday angle.
 
Wow at the fact that someone would even bring this up as a discussion point...



How desperate can you be?
 
Volbound1700 said:
Wow at the fact that someone would even bring this up as a discussion point...



How desperate can you be?
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This is what happens when you try to create 20 videos a day...you start running out of real things to talk about. ND isn't ending their historic tradition of independence to play Houston in the Big 12.
 
Deep Creek said:
I've said this all along. People yak ad naseum like equal shares of television revenue is the cat's meow. If so, then why not equally share gate/concession/teeshirts and all other types of revenue?
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Don't worry... they'll try and get to that soon enough probably. :heh:

They're just mimicking today's "entitled" society... CFB's version of welfare gone amok! :nod:

Ohio State's Prez's "Little Sisters of the Poor" statement from Tressell's OhioSt days comes to mind... :heh:

:pop2::martini:
 
Wild Turkey said:
Bottom line - We can all blame Texas.
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Max Greenfield Reaction GIF by CBS
 
Wild Turkey said:
I'm curious if this new and improved B12 is formed (which looks like it will) how the GOR will be written and for how long it will be put into place. I imagine for many schools they are going to want as long a period as they can get and then the bigger name brands are going to want as much flexibility as possible. Should be a very spirited negotiation and the new commish Brett Yorkman is going to earn his stripes early.

Can you imagine getting the B12 job and then up to 6 PAC teams fall into your lap and you pretty much need to revamp everything? This guy is going to be hero or a zero as I don't see much room for in-between.
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Who are the "bigger names brands"? I don't see any.
 
duckboy33 said:
I almost wonder if the PAC 12 adding Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State and Baylor makes more sense...
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Agree, just put yourself in those schools shoes and I might even throw in WVU.

The PAC comes calling to solidify what they can, I would think that the PAC even without SC and UCLA would bring a little more than what the Big12 will be getting post TX/OU since their newest additions weren’t considered money makers just a few short years ago when the Big12 told em all to pound sand when they wanted to be members.
If you are a Big12 member what about that conference says it’s safe for you? How many schools have left, been left out, entered as new members since.. pick a decade and then how many have left the PAC? And is the Big12 going to have a legit conference network now? The PAC does, yea their deal was bad but they do have one.
 
Deep Creek said:
Who are the "bigger names brands"? I don't see any.
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My guess is any school - Ore and Wash - to whom the B1G says not now, but maybe later. Normal people take that as a no, but desperate people don't. I don't mean that as mean as it sounds ... Ore and Wash are in a tough place. B1G doesn't want them, populating the PAC with SDSU and Boise and others just doesn't get it.
 
CoalTrain said:
Agree, just put yourself in those schools shoes and I might even throw in WVU.

The PAC comes calling to solidify what they can, I would think that the PAC even without SC and UCLA would bring a little more than what the Big12 will be getting post TX/OU since their newest additions weren’t considered money makers just a few short years ago when the Big12 told em all to pound sand when they wanted to be members.
If you are a Big12 member what about that conference says it’s safe for you? How many schools have left, been left out, entered as new members since.. pick a decade and then how many have left the PAC? And is the Big12 going to have a legit conference network now? The PAC does, yea their deal was bad but they do have one.
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This is exactly why the B12 is moving fast to close on The Az schools and Colorado/Utah?, they know the PAC12 minus USC/UCLA is still a viable conference that could absolutely steal members like TT, junior, KU and Iowa State.

WVU will never be part of the PAC unless there is a conference merger. It really makes no sense as the money won’t be earth shattering and travel would be worse then it is now.
 
ralphiewvu said:
This is exactly why the B12 is moving fast to close on The Az schools and Colorado/Utah?, they know the PAC12 minus USC/UCLA is still a viable conference that could absolutely steal members like TT, junior, KU and Iowa State.

WVU will never be part of the PAC unless there is a conference merger. It really makes no sense as the money won’t be earth shattering and travel would be worse then it is now.
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Gut says you are correct there but for all that WVU don't have, what they DO have is an eastern time zone. One of the biggest problems that the PAC has had through the years is exposure back east, WVU might be able to help with that, albeit modestly.
 
CoalTrain said:
Gut says you are correct there but for all that WVU don't have, what they DO have is an eastern time zone. One of the biggest problems that the PAC has had through the years is exposure back east, WVU might be able to help with that, albeit modestly.
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If east coasters aren’t watching the PAC after dark now, I highly doubt our beloved Mountain Men are going to change that in the slightest.

I love your optimism GR, but I don’t have a grand feeling about all this for our boys.
 
Volbound1700 said:
True but you have to ask and I am serious about that one. If Oklahoma State doesn't ask, they won't be considered. From what I have been told, SEC has only considered schools that have asked with the exception of one school: Florida State in 1990 was pursued by SEC without asking.
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I'm guessing almost every P5 program has asked. Heck I'd be embarrassed if we didn't. It's a long shot right now and a definate maybe if the top 2 decide 24 teams each and break away but you gotta make that call regardless.

Personally I think that's a mistake. This whole thing is about maximizing revenue but with a college model that means maximizing viewership. The Kansas States and NC States and well, us don't mean that much on our own but you don't maximize viewership by telling 20 large state schools sorry you don't make the cut. 5 years ago I figured 64 or so was the cut. Now with teams like Cincinnati and UCF becoming more popular it probably needs to be a bit bigger or at least optimized. I think that's why the Big 2 probably need 1-2 more viable conferences. The Big 12 in an effort to stay alive added those two-G5 schools that are relevant with recent NYD and playoff appearances. One has as big of a college enrollment as anyone and the other put more kids in the draft this year than anyone not named Georgia or LSU. When we first added them and I thought this was going to drag out for 20 years I was worried they would take our spot in the final 64. Now I'm thinking it should be a no brainer that all 3 plus whoever doesn't move the needle at $100 mil per year but would be good for $15-$20 in a 3rd or 4th conference probably should make the cut.
 
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