Man CBS Screwed Up Big Time

[duckboy33]

UCLA had more PAC vs PAC viewers. They play the same number of in-conference games, no?

You were the one laughing at UCLA. See?

UCLA got to play all the big draws (USC, Oregon and Washington). They don't all play the same schedules. Oregon and UW didn't play USC, which would have been a big draw.

I'm not interested in the cherry picked numbers to support a narrative. Let's look at the 2021 and 2022 average numbers:

2022:
Oregon - 2.21M (12th nationally)
UCLA - 1.59M (25th nationally)

2021:
Oregon - 2.57M (10th nationally)
UCLA - 1.18M (29th nationally)

 

[Red_Alert]

UCLA got to play all the big draws (USC, Oregon and Washington). They don't all play the same schedules. Oregon and UW didn't play USC, which would have been a big draw.

I'm not interested in the cherry picked numbers to support a narrative. Let's look at the 2021 and 2022 average numbers:

2022:
Oregon - 2.21M (12th nationally)
UCLA - 1.59M (25th nationally)

2021:
Oregon - 2.57M (10th nationally)
UCLA - 1.18M (29th nationally)

I didn't count the UCLA/Oregon viewership numbers because that's a push for both teams. It would have been dumb to do so.
Oregon also played Washington. You know that right?

Oregon got their bump from playing Georgia in 2022 and Ohio St in 2021.
For 2022....
2.21 M - 1.59 M = .62/week average
.62 X 12 (regular season games) = 7.44 M
Oregon/Georgia (week 1) was 6.2 M of that
BYU/Oregon (week 3) was another 2.5 M of that.
i.e. 8.7M

Oregon/Ohio St in 2021 had 7.7 M viewers.

Oregon wasn't the draw. It was Georgia and Ohio St.

In the mean time UCLA opened it's season against Bowling Green, Alabama St, and South Alabama. Those ratings weren't enough to register and therefore not counted.

BTW..
Utah/Oregon: 2.54 M
Utah/UCLA 2.65 M

The fact is UCLA viewership is gonna leave Oregon in the dust once they join the Big 10.

Keep laughing at them.

 

[fordman84]

by agreeing to a 20 year deal in the first place?

But that had nothing to do with A&M and Mizzou joining.

 

[Red_Alert]

Here's the kicker...

(4-8) Nebraska vs (4-8) Indiana: 1.14 M
and
(4-8) Nebraska vs (4-8) Rutgers: 1.15 M

That outdrew (10-3) Oregon's viewership in 7 of the 12 regular season weeks.

 

[Kburjr]

The PGA Tour’s viewership on US broadcasters NBC, Golf Channel and CBS has increased during the ongoing 2023 season, according to Sports Business Journal (SBJ).

• CBS has averaged 2.59 million viewers for four PGA Tour events, excluding the Masters, marking a four per cent jump YoY

PGA Tour US ratings increase for NBC, CBS and Golf Channel, says report - SportsPro

NBC has racked up a total audience delivery of 2.27 million viewers across seven PGA Tour events it has shown this season.

www.sportspromedia.com

LOL Golf outdraws 2/3 of College Football bowl game.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

The PGA Tour’s viewership on US broadcasters NBC, Golf Channel and CBS has increased during the ongoing 2023 season, according to Sports Business Journal (SBJ).

• CBS has averaged 2.59 million viewers for four PGA Tour events, excluding the Masters, marking a four per cent jump YoY

PGA Tour US ratings increase for NBC, CBS and Golf Channel, says report - SportsPro

NBC has racked up a total audience delivery of 2.27 million viewers across seven PGA Tour events it has shown this season.

www.sportspromedia.com

LOL Golf outdraws 2/3 of College Football bowl game.

I wonder how much of that is just bars everywhere leaving the event on all day

 

[Kburjr]

I wonder how much of that is just bars everywhere leaving the event on all day

Probably about the same as sports bars having multiple games on at the same time.

 

[OlyDuck]

Week 1
Oregon/Georgia: 6.2 M (Duh. Georgia was defending champs.)

In order that week...
Notre Dame/Ohio St: 10.5 M
FSU/LSU: 7.5 M
Oregon/Georgia: 6.2 M

Week 3
BYU/Oregon: 2.58 M

Week 4
Oregon/Wash St: 2.27 M

Week 5
Washington/UCLA: 1.7 M
Stanford/Oregon: 672 K

Week 6
Utah/UCLA: 2.65 M

Week 9
Stanford/UCLA: 1.26 M
Oregon/Cal: 738 K

Week 10
Oregon/Colorado: 962 K
UCLA/Ariz St: 490 K

Week 11
Washington/Oregon: 3.63 M
Arizona/UCLA: 1.86 M

Week 12
USC/UCLA: 4.53 M
Utah/Oregon: 2.54 M

Week 13
Oregon/Oregon St: 3.56 M
UCLA/Cal: 3.27 M

Total regular season viewership NOT including Oregon vs Georgia

Oregon: 16.9 M
UCLA: 15.7 M

Not an egregious difference by any means.

That is likely going to flip bigly when UCLA adds the Big 10 population watching them.

Again what does Oregon have to do with anything? at no point did i say oh it should have been Oregon. or if it was Oregon it things would be different. your argument is weak because you are bringing in a different team just because its the one i support. this wasnt about comparing things. this was about UCLA and UCLA alone. what numbers Oregon has/had is irrelevant to this topic

 

[fordman84]

The PGA Tour’s viewership on US broadcasters NBC, Golf Channel and CBS has increased during the ongoing 2023 season, according to Sports Business Journal (SBJ).

• CBS has averaged 2.59 million viewers for four PGA Tour events, excluding the Masters, marking a four per cent jump YoY

PGA Tour US ratings increase for NBC, CBS and Golf Channel, says report - SportsPro

NBC has racked up a total audience delivery of 2.27 million viewers across seven PGA Tour events it has shown this season.

www.sportspromedia.com

LOL Golf outdraws 2/3 of College Football bowl game.

Is that across all four days, or even two days, for those four PGA events?

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Probably about the same as sports bars having multiple games on at the same time.

But I think that's just it, there's like 15 games on during each time block forcing places to choose what's on

 

[Kburjr]

Is that across all four days, or even two days, for those four PGA events?

They mentioned the Valspar numbers for Sunday in the article.

• The Valspar Championship hit a five-year high, with 2.59 million viewers tuning in to NBC for the final round

 

[Red_Alert]

"bUt UCLA gOt To pLaY USC"

Guess what. They'll be playing USC in 2024 and beyond as well.
Oregon won't be.

"hA hA. YoU iNcLUdED UCLA iN ThAt?" - Oregon fan

 

[fordman84]

They mentioned the Valspar numbers for Sunday in the article.

• The Valspar Championship hit a five-year high, with 2.59 million viewers tuning in to NBC for the final round

Yup, but that was just that one tournament and not on CBS. Could be the same "sunday only" or could be multiple days.

 

[Kburjr]

But I think that's just it, there's like 15 games on during each time block forcing places to choose what's on

Dancing around the numbers. I did a Nielson Ratings survey once. They ask about viewing in a specific time period. Sitting in a bar with multiple screens, I can honestly say that I viewed 15 games in a one hour period.

 

[Kburjr]

Yup, but that was just that one tournament and not on CBS. Could be the same "sunday only" or could be multiple days.

Not positive but I think it means by day. Interesting article explaining what TAD is:

.

 

[Red_Alert]

Again what does Oregon have to do with anything? at no point did i say oh it should have been Oregon. or if it was Oregon it things would be different. your argument is weak because you are bringing in a different team just because its the one i support. this wasnt about comparing things. this was about UCLA and UCLA alone. what numbers Oregon has/had is irrelevant to this topic

Well it was you laughing at UCLA in a thread about CFB viewership ratings.

See?

With USC and UCLA in the mix, it's possible (if not likely) that they'll be a ton more "great" games to put on CBS

haha you included UCLA in that.

I simply did the maffs on total viewership omitting Georgia (who was the big draw). It shows that Oregon and UCLA are basically even when it comes to the other 11 games. UCLA actually had more viewers in the 9 PAC vs PAC games.

Maybe you shouldn't be throwing rocks from a glass house?

 

[Thiefery]

But that had nothing to do with A&M and Mizzou joining.

i said the SEC screwed up by agreeing to a 20 year deal.. CBS screwed them by not even entertaining a bump after the additions of y'all and mizzu... ESPN did. No way was the SEC ever going to agree to anything that CBS offered after that and CBS knew it.. which is why they decided to bid on a BiG package

 

[fordman84]

i said the SEC screwed up by agreeing to a 20 year deal.. CBS screwed them by not even entertaining a bump after the additions of y'all and mizzu... ESPN did. No way was the SEC ever going to agree to anything that CBS offered after that and CBS knew it.. which is why they decided to bid on a BiG package

Ok, I read your post as SEC screwed up by not extending or asking for more money when we joined. CBS was never going to pay more money without more years, and SEC was never going to do more years. They wanted the other big conferences to do their deals so SEC could add two big names and be a free agent.

 

[duckboy33]

I didn't count the UCLA/Oregon viewership numbers because that's a push for both teams. It would have been dumb to do so.
Oregon also played Washington. You know that right?

Oregon got their bump from playing Georgia in 2022 and Ohio St in 2021.
For 2022....
2.21 M - 1.59 M = .62/week average
.62 X 12 (regular season games) = 7.44 M
Oregon/Georgia (week 1) was 6.2 M of that
BYU/Oregon (week 3) was another 2.5 M of that.
i.e. 8.7M

Oregon/Ohio St in 2021 had 7.7 M viewers.

Oregon wasn't the draw. It was Georgia and Ohio St.

In the mean time UCLA opened it's season against Bowling Green, Alabama St, and South Alabama. Those ratings weren't enough to register and therefore not counted.

BTW..
Utah/Oregon: 2.54 M
Utah/UCLA 2.65 M

The fact is UCLA viewership is gonna leave Oregon in the dust once they join the Big 10.

Keep laughing at them.

My point is that you are cherry picking the data by deciding which games count and which games don't. There are many factors that go into ratings (Channel, start time, opponent, etc.) so when you cherry pick the Utah game, you fail to point out that one was played in 3:30 ET and one was played at 10:30 ET. Despite that, they registered a very similar number. If you weren't looking for an agenda, you may look at how each team registered in the other big mutual conference opponent (Washington) when the roles were reversed. UO/UW brought in 3.63M during a game that was accessible for East Coast Viewers. UCLA/UW brought in 1.70M when they played in the late time slot. The numbers weren't even close when the roles were reversed.

That's why I don't give any credence to cherry picked data. Anyone can determine a way to make the numbers look a certain way once they decided which games "count" and which games don't count. If you look at the complete numbers, it's clear Oregon gets more viewership than UCLA.

 

[Red_Alert]

My point is that you are cherry picking the data by deciding which games count and which games don't. There are many factors that go into ratings (Channel, start time, opponent, etc.) so when you cherry pick the Utah game, you fail to point out that one was played in 3:30 ET and one was played at 10:30 ET. Despite that, they registered a very similar number. If you weren't looking for an agenda, you may look at how each team registered in the other big mutual conference opponent (Washington) when the roles were reversed. UO/UW brought in 3.63M during a game that was accessible for East Coast Viewers. UCLA/UW brought in 1.70M when they played in the late time slot. The numbers weren't even close when the roles were reversed.

That's why I don't give any credence to cherry picked data. Anyone can determine a way to make the numbers look a certain way once they decided which games "count" and which games don't count. If you look at the complete numbers, it's clear Oregon gets more viewership than UCLA.

Here's some more cherry picking reality for you.....

2022 Viewership Totals

(10-3) Oregon vs PAC 12 teams: 14.3 M
(4-8) Indiana vs Big 10 teams: 13.5 M

A difference of just 800K.

Oregon 9 game average = 1.58M
Indiana 9 game average = 1.50M

When touting their viewership numbers, Oregon's living off that marquee 6.2 M Georgia game where they got trounced 49-3.

That lowly Indiana can get similar viewership to Oregon (in-conference) is why the PAC is having such a difficult time getting a media rights contract.

Oregon laughing at UCLA is actually a pathetic cry for help from a sinking ship.