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duckboy33 said:
I used to believe that. 247 and others are saying it could happen much sooner than that.

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That's some rando Twitter guy, quoting FSU saying the aren't satisfied. What else is new?

1. The GOR - rock solid. 247 and others don't know what they are talking about.
2. The rest of the ACC will litigate with them.
3. The SEC and the B1G aren't looking so they have no place to go, and neither conference wants to get sucked into the litigation.
4. Over half the SEC will say, "ah, hell no" to brining in more good programs.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Nothing is going to happen with the ACC until 2036 and 13 years is an eternity.

When the ACC folds (and it most likely will) likely scenarios are:

SEC:
1. FSU
2. Clemson
3. UNC
4. Virginia or VT

Big 10: How many do they take?
1. ND
2. Virginia, Duke, Miami, GT, VT

The Big 12 could be looking at:
- NC State
- Louisville
- GT
- Miami

I think most likely they will be looking at Louisville and NC State and maybe GT so it's not like they are going to be doing that much better and a bird in the hand is better than a bird in the bush. I think everyone settles at 20 teams (which is too many but that seems to be where this is headed).

At that point, the SEC, B1G and Big 12 take their 60 teams, take 8 at large bids of everyone else and form their own basketball tournament with play in games because it will be worth around 1 billion.

I honestly think that is why the Big 12 is focusing so hard on basketball as they want a seat at that table and they might have the portfolio to pull it off.
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There is no economic business case you can make for the two conferences to expand, with today's knowledge. As you say, 13 years is an eternity. But in today's economics, ND, FSU, and Clemson are the only three viable schools. UNC might be borderline, UVa and VaTech are laughably horrible.

We are back to the expand for the sake of expansion because someone wants clicks (not you, the Twitter guy).
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
That's some rando Twitter guy, quoting FSU saying the aren't satisfied. What else is new?

1. The GOR - rock solid. 247 and others don't know what they are talking about.
2. The rest of the ACC will litigate with them.
3. The SEC and the B1G aren't looking so they have no place to go, and neither conference wants to get sucked into the litigation.
4. Over half the SEC will say, "ah, hell no" to brining in more good programs.
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I was talking about the 247 reporter, not the twitter account. We'll see. I doubt the ACC holds until 2036.
 
duckboy33 said:
I doubt it's that. UO/tOSU already have a series schedule and the home game was already bought out by Ohio State.

I don't think it's about conference expansion either. It's probably some sort of promo video. Maybe for ESPN or a commercial.
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tOSU needs a game in 2027 - Oregon can kick Utah State to the curb.
 
UbetterDUCK said:
tOSU needs a game in 2027 - Oregon can kick Utah State to the curb.
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Ohio State is going to play Alabama, Oregon and 9 Big Ten games? I don't see it. Plus Ohio State has already paid Oregon for the cancelled game. It's almost certainly not about a scheduled game.
 
duckboy33 said:
Ohio State is going to play Alabama, Oregon and 9 Big Ten games? I don't see it. Plus Ohio State has already paid Oregon for the cancelled game. It's almost certainly not about a scheduled game.
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It all depends on how the committee views losses in the 12-team CFP era. If they simply count losses, then the best teams will not play more than one other P5 game. If they take SOS into consideration, then there will be great OOC games in the future.
 
duckboy33 said:
Ohio State is going to play Alabama, Oregon and 9 Big Ten games? I don't see it. Plus Ohio State has already paid Oregon for the cancelled game. It's almost certainly not about a scheduled game.
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You are probably right - but SOS will be a driving factor for the new playoff structure.
 
UbetterDUCK said:
You are probably right - but SOS will be a driving factor for the new playoff structure.
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You would think so. It is for March Madness. It would be good for the game. That said, for the most part so far in the CFP era they've basically looked at record and that's it.
 
UbetterDUCK said:
You are probably right - but SOS will be a driving factor for the new playoff structure.
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Why would a Ohio State or Bama play a much harder OOC schedule purposely? They can probably lose 2 games and still likely make the playoff in most seasons. Why risk more losses?
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Why would a Ohio State or Bama play a much harder OOC schedule purposely? They can probably lose 2 games and still likely make the playoff in most seasons. Why risk more losses?
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I was way out of my lane. Didn’t think it through. Saw tOSU has an open slot and Oregon has 2 cupcakes in 2027. But yes tOSU is not going to play Bama and Oregon on the road in same year. Would be great for the fans, but not to jeopardize a playoff slot.
 
 
I think Oregon/UW end up in the B12 ultimately. They can't wait around for a B1G invite that may never come. That gets the B12 to 15, and then they add one more to get to 16 like the SEC/B1G have. Who that 16th team is, I'd probably guess Arizona based on the conjecture out there. That leaves ASU, Oregon State, Utah and Washington State off to the Mountain West.

No clue what happens to Stanford/Cal. Probably drop football at that point. Put other sports in the WCC or Big West.
 
ericd7633 said:
I think Oregon/UW end up in the B12 ultimately. They can't wait around for a B1G invite that may never come. That gets the B12 to 15, and then they add one more to get to 16 like the SEC/B1G have. Who that 16th team is, I'd probably guess Arizona based on the conjecture out there. That leaves ASU, Oregon State, Utah and Washington State off to the Mountain West.

No clue what happens to Stanford/Cal. Probably drop football at that point. Put other sports in the WCC or Big West.
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Yea, that’s the way it seems it’s going. If the B1G Wanted Oregon/Washington they would have gotten them by now. Sounds like Arizona is pushing for Big 12 invite, they don’t want to be left out
 
Wild Turkey said:
Nothing is going to happen with the ACC until 2036 and 13 years is an eternity.

When the ACC folds (and it most likely will) likely scenarios are:

SEC:
1. FSU
2. Clemson
3. UNC
4. Virginia or VT

Big 10: How many do they take?
1. ND
2. Virginia, Duke, Miami, GT, VT

The Big 12 could be looking at:
- NC State
- Louisville
- GT
- Miami

I think most likely they will be looking at Louisville and NC State and maybe GT so it's not like they are going to be doing that much better and a bird in the hand is better than a bird in the bush. I think everyone settles at 20 teams (which is too many but that seems to be where this is headed).

At that point, the SEC, B1G and Big 12 take their 60 teams, take 8 at large bids of everyone else and form their own basketball tournament with play in games because it will be worth around 1 billion.

I honestly think that is why the Big 12 is focusing so hard on basketball as they want a seat at that table and they might have the portfolio to pull it off.
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That truly is the B12s best option unfortunately. Build on basketball. That’s why you see heavy rumors of UConn. Although I’m hoping those rumors are only that.

You really think Miami will be available for the B12 to take? Also I see UNC going to the B1G instead of the SEC. At that point would the SEC really want Duke or would they stop at Clemson and FSU?
 
Ralphie pivoting
ralphiewvu said:
The B12 almost has to add the 4 corners if they want to come. The PAC survives losing Colorado and Arizona. They wont if the 4 corners move or when Oregon and Washington does. It’s the whole reason the B12 went after Colorado. In the hopes that dominos start falling and the PAC stops being a Power conference if There is a large exodus.
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They can't do that!!!
 
duckboy33 said:
Ohio State is going to play Alabama, Oregon and 9 Big Ten games? I don't see it. Plus Ohio State has already paid Oregon for the cancelled game. It's almost certainly not about a scheduled game.
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while already playing Baylor? unlikely
 
UbetterDUCK said:
I was way out of my lane. Didn’t think it through. Saw tOSU has an open slot and Oregon has 2 cupcakes in 2027. But yes tOSU is not going to play Bama and Oregon on the road in same year. Would be great for the fans, but not to jeopardize a playoff slot.
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This is what I want to see OOC ... if we go to 9 IC games, some of those years we won't even have room for a cupcake (Nerds don't count):

2026GaTech, @Louisville, UCLA
2027@GaTech , @FSU, Louisville
2028GaTech, FSU
2029@GaTech, @Clemson
2030GaTech, Clemson, tOSU
2031@GaTech, tOSU
2032GaTech, Clemson
2033@GaTech, @Clemson, NC State
 
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