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stakesarehigh said:
wild

your own local paper disagrees.


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How Michigan football allegations compare to Patriots, Astros sign-stealing scandals

Here's how the allegations of Michigan football illegally stealing signs compares to investigations into the Patriots, Astros and Red Sox.
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"A Big Ten school tapped into its in-stadium surveillance video from a game earlier in the 2023 season, and the person in the seat bought by Stalions held their phone up and appeared to film the home sideline the entire game, sources told ESPN."

"NuH hUh. CoLLeGe sTaDiUmS DoN'T hAvE CaMeRaS gOOd EnOuGh tO Do tHaT" - maze&blew
 
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batchaps4me said:
IMHO you have misunderstood my question. You think that a single analyst has game time duties that will have him in the ear of both coordinators?

On the field during games, I would bet that the analysts are segregated by role and handle either O or D but not both.
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There are actually limits as to how many can be on headsets. That this guy is right there, with laminated cards with signals is damning.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
There are actually limits as to how many can be on headsets. That this guy is right there, with laminated cards with signals is damning.
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It would be, if authentic. I am not saying it is or isn't because I have no clue and am willing to see what the facts are before passing judgement. My opinion is this don't look good for Michigan and there is a lot of smoke but that don't necessarily mean there is fire.
 
Across The Field said:
Dude I said literally nothing at all about OSU. Stop being so dramatic.

I get it. You are shitting bricks about your program and what's potentially going to happen.
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Here is the difference between you and I. I wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep if they gave UM the death penalty.
My life doesn't revolve around UM football. I'm not shitting bricks. Other than this site, I don't give it a second thought.

It is simply entertainment.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I'm not sure what people think those posts prove? A Michigan analyst was on the sidelines during games, with legal sign stealing documentation you're allowed to have. Alert the FBI! No one is denying that he worked at UM, or that UM was sign stealing. What's the gatcha there?
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That the analyst was paying third parties to attend future opponents of Michigan to video said future opponents sideline signals for Michigan to use when they faced them.
 
Red_Alert said:
That the analyst was paying third parties to attend future opponents of Michigan to video said future opponents sideline signals for Michigan to use when they faced them.
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Here is what I don't get. Teams change their hand signals on a game to game basis. I am trying to figure out why this guy would go to that length. It is common knowledge every team is trying to steal sideline signals at every level of the sport. So going to the length this guy did is wild to me.
Teams not only change the hand signals, they change who the indicator is and how many guys are giving signals on the sideline.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Here is what I don't get. Teams change their hand signals on a game to game basis. I am trying to figure out why this guy would go to that length. It is common knowledge every team is trying to steal sideline signals at every level of the sport. So going to the length this guy did is wild to me.
Teams not only change the hand signals, they change who the indicator is and how many guys are giving signals on the sideline.
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No expert obviously but it seems someone with enough info might be able to pick out the real sign. It must have done something to help or this guy would not have kept doing it and also been in the ear of the DC during the game.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Here is what I don't get. Teams change their hand signals on a game to game basis. I am trying to figure out why this guy would go to that length. It is common knowledge every team is trying to steal sideline signals at every level of the sport. So going to the length this guy did is wild to me.
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IF he was doing it, I doubt it was for his pure love of Michigan. It was his job.
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Teams not only change the hand signals, they change who the indicator is and how many guys are giving signals on the sideline.
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IF you could tape and study the sidelines, you can deduce the signs and indicator relatively quickly. Probably by only one or two possessions, but that is more than enough to tip the balance of the game.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Here is what I don't get. Teams change their hand signals on a game to game basis. I am trying to figure out why this guy would go to that length. It is common knowledge every team is trying to steal sideline signals at every level of the sport. So going to the length this guy did is wild to me.
Teams not only change the hand signals, they change who the indicator is and how many guys are giving signals on the sideline.
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Not sure what there is not to get?

Michigan was going to get an edge over future opponents with the action. Let's do this on the down low by paying 3rd parties.

The evidence that the in person filming benefitted Michigan when playing their future opponents is overwhelming.
 
ellupo said:
No expert obviously but it seems someone with enough info might be able to pick out the real sign. It must have done something to help or this guy would not have kept doing it and also been in the ear of the DC during the game.
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Here is what confuses me with it. Say the military guy picked out a sign -- those calls are coming within seconds of the ball being snapped. I know we had 3 people giving signs at the same time and we weren't anywhere near the D1 P5 level. This was before all of the technology now available, so teams are even more secretive about their hand signals, using signs, etc.

It is way above my pay grade. Best I can think is he could say to the DC, i think it is a pass or i think it is a run. You'd have to know the playbook of the opposing team to know exactly what plays are being called from the sideline.
 
Red_Alert said:
That the analyst was paying third parties to attend future opponents of Michigan to video said future opponents sideline signals for Michigan to use when they faced them.
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There is absolutely no evidence of what you just claimed. Buying tickets for someone is not equal to "paying third parties".

Funny how this went from an "elaborate network" to "2-3 people" he bought tickets for to attend games.
 
My favorite part about this is Ohio State fans trying to cope with 1400+ days of having not beat Michigan by trying to claim their dynasty was destroyed by a cheeseburger, iphone 10 and a laminated sheet of paper.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Here is what confuses me with it. Say the military guy picked out a sign -- those calls are coming within seconds of the ball being snapped. I know we had 3 people giving signs at the same time and we weren't anywhere near the D1 P5 level. This was before all of the technology now available, so teams are even more secretive about their hand signals, using signs, etc.

It is way above my pay grade. Best I can think is he could say to the DC, i think it is a pass or i think it is a run. You'd have to know the playbook of the opposing team to know exactly what plays are being called from the sideline.
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Assume that’s it … knowing pass or run would be huge in and of itself, right?
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Here is the difference between you and I. I wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep if they gave UM the death penalty.
My life doesn't revolve around UM football. I'm not shitting bricks. Other than this site, I don't give it a second thought.

It is simply entertainment.
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Nah, that's BS. You get way, way too overly dramatic on here to supposedly not care. You fly off the handle emotionally if I don't bow down and worship your cheating program the last two years. You are shitting bricks.
 
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