More Michigan Cheating

Red_Alert said:
A week ago you were cheering him on as being a sage.

That him "sticking up" for Michigan was proof they'd done no wrong.
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That’s when he was Paul, not Pete. He saw how many clicks he was losing by not piling on the frenzy.
 
Me thinks the punishments to UM will be handed out later tonight or no later than Friday.
 
mall3013 said:
Me thinks the punishments to UM will be handed out later tonight or no later than Friday.
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It was supposed to today, now, go figure, they are saying early next week. Care to wager Harbaugh is given a 1 game suspension (for the Maryland game) and that is it?!?!

Best part is -- IF and I say if, as I have no clue what is real and what isn't in this case -- but IF, it is true that OSU and Rutgers gave those signs to Purdue -- we are going to be dealing with this all over again at those schools. I'm guessing the law firm UM hired will get to the bottom of it though.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
It was supposed to today, now, go figure, they are saying early next week. Care to wager Harbaugh is given a 1 game suspension (for the Maryland game) and that is it?!?!

Best part is -- IF and I say if, as I have no clue what is real and what isn't in this case -- but IF, it is true that OSU and Rutgers gave those signs to Purdue -- we are going to be dealing with this all over again at those schools. I'm guessing the law firm UM hired will get to the bottom of it though.
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No we're not
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
It was supposed to today, now, go figure,, they are saying early next week. Care to wager Harbaugh is given a 1 game suspension (for the Maryland game) and that is it?!?!

Best part is -- IF and I say if, as I have no clue what is real and what isn't in this case -- but IF, it is true that OSU and Rutgers gave those signs to Purdue -- we are going to be dealing with this all over again at those schools. I'm guessing the law firm UM hired will get to the bottom of it though.
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The Law firm only gets to defend their client. Not investigate other schools.
 
Across The Field said:
No we're not
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If you gave the signals to Purdue, of course you are. You don't think that'd fall under "integrity of competition"? That'd be breaking the exact same sportsmanship policy Michigan is being accused of breaking.

As I said -- IF. With this case -- I have no clue what to believe.

But the fact that nothing was announced today tells me there is something to it. And if they ding Michigan with it -- they will do the same to others.
 
stakesarehigh said:
The Law firm only gets to defend their client. Not investigate other schools.
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They absolutely can investigate evidence for the case and that is exactly what the text messages and contact between OSU, Purdue and Rutgers would fall under, evidence that this was common place in the B1G. Why do you think Michigan hired the #1 investigative law firm in the US? If there is a way for them to get their hands on evidence -- they will have the resources to get it done.

As the resident lawyer doggy said -- the case will come down to the facts -- if OSU, Purdue and Rutgers hands are clean -- they have nothing to worry about. IF they did it though -- they are guilty of the exact same 'integrity of competition' as Michigan. Meaning OSU, Purdue and Rutgers will be facing punishment.

Last thing you want to do in CFB is open a can of worms like this, as I don't care how "clean" you think your program is -- it isn't clean. No one is. These people are getting paid millions to win at a kid's game -- they are going to bend rules, look the other way and do whatever they can to get ahead.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
It was supposed to today, now, go figure, they are saying early next week. Care to wager Harbaugh is given a 1 game suspension (for the Maryland game) and that is it?!?!

Best part is -- IF and I say if, as I have no clue what is real and what isn't in this case -- but IF, it is true that OSU and Rutgers gave those signs to Purdue -- we are going to be dealing with this all over again at those schools. I'm guessing the law firm UM hired will get to the bottom of it though.
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NewPhoneWhoDis said:
If you gave the signals to Purdue, of course you are. You don't think that'd fall under "integrity of competition"? That'd be breaking the exact same sportsmanship policy Michigan is being accused of breaking.

As I said -- IF. With this case -- I have no clue what to believe.

But the fact that nothing was announced today tells me there is something to it. And if they ding Michigan with it -- they will do the same to others.
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It's amazing how you Michigan fans can't differentiate the two. Either you can but you'd rather distract, or you're just so blinded with homerism that you can't.

Have you seen anywhere that Ohio St and/or Rutgers sent someone "in-person" to electronically scout a Michigan game when Michigan was a "future (in-season) opponent?

Multiple times here you've stated that sign stealing isn't illegal and that it happens all of the time. You've also stated that the legal sharing of signals happens all of the time. You've also stated that it doesn't matter because teams change their signals every week.

Michigan had not played Purdue prior to the CCG.
Rutgers and Ohio St had. Therefore, if Rutgers and Ohio St did send Purdue Michigan sideline signals, they likely had someone on their own sidelines DURING their games with Michigan, and documenting their sideline signals.

Do you get the difference? Rutgers and Ohio St were involved in the games with Michigan when the Michigan sideline signals were obtained.

Not.The.Same
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
They absolutely can investigate evidence for the case and that is exactly what the text messages and contact between OSU, Purdue and Rutgers would fall under, evidence that this was common place in the B1G. Why do you think Michigan hired the #1 investigative law firm in the US? If there is a way for them to get their hands on evidence -- they will have the resources to get it done.

As the resident lawyer doggy said -- the case will come down to the facts -- if OSU, Purdue and Rutgers hands are clean -- they have nothing to worry about. IF they did it though -- they are guilty of the exact same 'integrity of competition' as Michigan. Meaning OSU, Purdue and Rutgers will be facing punishment.

Last thing you want to do in CFB is open a can of worms like this, as I don't care how "clean" you think your program is -- it isn't clean. No one is. These people are getting paid millions to win at a kid's game -- they are going to bend rules, look the other way and do whatever they can to get ahead.
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No they are not.

It's not even been hinted that Rutgers or Ohio St were sending "in-person" scouts to future (in-season) Michigan games to electronically capture their sideline signals for their own benefit/advantage.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
If you gave the signals to Purdue, of course you are. You don't think that'd fall under "integrity of competition"? That'd be breaking the exact same sportsmanship policy Michigan is being accused of breaking.

As I said -- IF. With this case -- I have no clue what to believe.

But the fact that nothing was announced today tells me there is something to it. And if they ding Michigan with it -- they will do the same to others.
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You're comparing apples and oranges. Teams have exchanged notes for decades, dude. For someone who talks down to everyone about "knowing ball", you really should know that.
 
Across The Field said:
You're comparing apples and oranges. Teams have exchanged notes for decades, dude. For someone who talks down to everyone about "knowing ball", you really should know that.
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Seems like the Purdue sign sharing and "league collaboration against Michigan" thing might be fabricated or completely made up anyways.
 
Red_Alert said:
It's amazing how you Michigan fans can't differentiate the two. Either you can but you'd rather distract, or you're just so blinded with homerism that you can't.

Have you seen anywhere that Ohio St and/or Rutgers sent someone "in-person" to electronically scout a Michigan game when Michigan was a "future (in-season) opponent?

Multiple times here you've stated that sign stealing isn't illegal and that it happens all of the time. You've also stated that the legal sharing of signals happens all of the time. You've also stated that it doesn't matter because teams change their signals every week.

Michigan had not played Purdue prior to the CCG.
Rutgers and Ohio St had. Therefore, if Rutgers and Ohio St did send Purdue Michigan sideline signals, they likely had someone on their own sidelines DURING their games with Michigan, and documenting their sideline signals.

Do you get the difference? Rutgers and Ohio St were involved in the games with Michigan when the Michigan sideline signals were obtained.

Not.The.Same
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I saw a comparison that was pretty spot on. Even if OSU and Rutgers did what they did (which is something that happens in every conference every year in college football), it'd be like someone taking a math test and telling a friend about some of the questions on it before they take it later that day. What michigan did was sneaking into the teacher's desk when nobody was watching and taking pictures of the test so they'd know all the questions on it and memorizing the answers before taking it.
 
Across The Field said:
I saw a comparison that was pretty spot on. Even if OSU and Rutgers did what they did (which is something that happens in every conference every year in college football), it'd be like someone taking a math test and telling a friend about some of the questions on it before they take it later that day. What michigan did was sneaking into the teacher's desk when nobody was watching and taking pictures of the test so they'd know all the questions on it and memorizing the answers before taking it.
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Notice they officially still have not once denied the allegations. They just claim "no one knew" what Stallions was doing. Seems they know the guilt is there but are hoping they can get away with it based on the "rogue staffer" theory and "LOOK WHAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES THOUGH!" spinning.
 
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