Poll Bears 2024 qb

Who will be Bears next qb

  • Caleb Williams

    Votes: 13 36.1%

  • Drake Maye

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • JJ McCarty

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Michael Penix

    Votes: 2 5.6%

  • Jayden Daniels

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Justin Fields

    Votes: 14 38.9%

  • Kburjr,Nos annd Mofo put ketchup on potato salad

    Votes: 5 13.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    36
beardown07 said:
And?
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So he can only hit receivers if they're open, but his receivers create by far the least amount of separation in the NFL. Think there might be a major coaching/talent problem, or is his receivers inability to create separation also his fault now?
 
Across The Field said:
So he can only hit receivers if they're open, but his receivers create by far the least amount of separation in the NFL. Think there might be a major coaching/talent problem, or is his receivers inability to create separation also his fault now?
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Is that based on when he actually fucking throws it, or when he's supposed to throw it? Does that chart factor in all the times where WRs were running free and he didn't see it? Dude's internal clock is a fuckin' hourglass.

The Bears could use some depth, but let's not pretend they're just running scrubs out there. Moore, Mooney, Kmet, Herbert...o-line played MUCH better the second half of the year, great running game.

Getsy is shit, but maybe there's a reason he didn't trust him to throw 30 times a game?

I'm over it. I've watched every single play of his career. I feel like I've watched the same game for 3 years.
 
I wish they would've shitcanned Eberflus too. Clean sweep.
 
beardown07 said:
Is that based on when he actually fucking throws it, or when he's supposed to throw it? Does that chart factor in all the times where WRs were running free and he didn't see it? Dude's internal clock is a fuckin' hourglass.

The Bears could use some depth, but let's not pretend they're just running scrubs out there. Moore, Mooney, Kmet, Herbert...o-line played MUCH better the second half of the year, great running game.

Getsy is shit, but maybe there's a reason he didn't trust him to throw 30 times a game?

I'm over it. I've watched every single play of his career. I feel like I've watched the same game for 3 years.
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Yeah, that's my point. He's had dogshit coaching his entire career. Also, let's be real, Moore is an elite WR (And he set personal records across the board this year), but every other receiving weapon is useless other than Kmet, who is a nice TE but not elite. Maybe he could've gotten more out of the other weapons with a playcaller who wasn't overly predictable and got creative even once, but I also saw enough plays of guys dropping passes, not putting in effort, not finishing routes, etc. to know it's not going to change with or without Fields unless they have proper playcalling and better receivers outside of Moore.
 
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Yeah, that's my point. He's had dogshit coaching his entire career. Also, let's be real, Moore is an elite WR (And he set personal records across the board this year), but every other receiving weapon is useless other than Kmet, who is a nice TE but not elite. Maybe he could've gotten more out of the other weapons with a playcaller who wasn't overly predictable and got creative even once, but I also saw enough plays of guys dropping passes, not putting in effort, not finishing routes, etc. to know it's not going to change with or without Fields unless they have proper playcalling and better receivers outside of Moore.
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Cole Kmet

Catches: 73 Rank: 8th
Yards: 719 Rank: 8th
TDs: 6 Rank 4th

Top 10 is elite. Sorry.

The Bears have a 4% drop rate as a team. To put that in perspective, KC has a 7.3% drop rate.

Moore had a good season. He is a bonafide stud. However a bunch of his stats came in two games. He also had 8 games under 60 yards, and 11 under 75 yards.

Mooney was a 1000 yard receiver just 2 seasons ago.

Getsy sucks, but Mahomes threw for over 4000, with way shittier targets and fucking Nagy as his OC, so go figure.

The playcalling did him no favors, but I also feel that a major part of said playcalling was the simple fact that Getsy didn't trust him. Whether that's fair or not? It cost him his job, so it's moot.

MY point, is that 3 year loop is MUCH more about what I did and didn't see from Fields, than Getsy.
 
beardown07 said:
Cole Kmet

Catches: 73 Rank: 8th
Yards: 719 Rank: 8th
TDs: 6 Rank 4th

Top 10 is elite. Sorry.

The Bears have a 4% drop rate as a team. To put that in perspective, KC has a 7.3% drop rate.

Moore had a good season. He is a bonafide stud. However a bunch of his stats came in two games. He also had 8 games under 60 yards, and 11 under 75 yards.

Mooney was a 1000 yard receiver just 2 seasons ago.

Getsy sucks, but Mahomes threw for over 4000, with way shittier targets and fucking Nagy as his OC, so go figure.

The playcalling did him no favors, but I also feel that a major part of said playcalling was the simple fact that Getsy didn't trust him. Whether that's fair or not? It cost him his job, so it's moot.

MY point, is that 3 year loop is MUCH more about what I did and didn't see from Fields, than Getsy.
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Why are you saying sorry? What a queer thing to say. Top 10 is good for the position, but he wasn't even top 50 in receiving yards, that's not an elite weapon. Mooney was a 1000 yard receiver due to volume, he's an absolute garbage WR overall.

Mahomes threw for over 4000 with the same YPA as Fields, that isn't helping your argument. The Bears have wrecked Fields though, and they'll keep doing the same thing over and over again if they keep bringing in shitty coach after shitty coach.
 
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Why are you saying sorry? What a queer thing to say. Top 10 is good for the position, but he wasn't even top 50 in receiving yards, that's not an elite weapon. Mooney was a 1000 yard receiver due to volume, he's an absolute garbage WR overall.

Mahomes threw for over 4000 with the same YPA as Fields, that isn't helping your argument. The Bears have wrecked Fields though, and they'll keep doing the same thing over and over again if they keep bringing in shitty coach after shitty coach.
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Get fucked, cunt.

Kmet is ranked 51, ya jackass. 7 TE's in the league in front of him. Top 10 dumbshit.

Mooney's 1000 yards is due to volume, at 81 catches and 13 ypc, but DJ Moore's isn't at 96 catches and 14.2 ypc?

Nice logic. What an ass.
 
I'm going with JJ MacCarthy.
 
beardown07 said:
Get fucked, cunt.

Kmet is ranked 51, ya jackass. 7 TE's in the league in front of him. Top 10 dumbshit.

Mooney's 1000 yards is due to volume, at 81 catches and 13 ypc, but DJ Moore's isn't at 96 catches and 14.2 ypc?

Nice logic. What an ass.
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51st isn't an elite weapon, jackass. That's the point. Being the 8th best TE means jack shit when it's a position that historically doesn't get much productivity. i'M sOrRy.

Moore's performance was significantly better than Mooney 2 years ago but hey, if you think Mooney is as good as Moore go right ahead. I'm sure him having less than 1000 combined yards the last 2 years will really help you with that argument.
 
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51st isn't an elite weapon, jackass. That's the point. Being the 8th best TE means jack shit when it's a position that historically doesn't get much productivity. i'M sOrRy.

Moore's performance was significantly better than Mooney 2 years ago but hey, if you think Mooney is as good as Moore go right ahead. I'm sure him having less than 1000 combined yards the last 2 years will really help you with that argument.
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It is at the TE position, duh. Now if only he had a top 2 running game, number 1 run D, and top 15 overall defense.:rolleyes2:

Nobody said Mooney was a good as Moore. As usual, you've missed the point. Remember when all last year, the excuse was he didn't have a true number one? Got that this year. Still sucks.

I really am sorry, that at 8:30 AM, while sipping my first cup of coffee, I bruised your vagina by saying. "sorry". Or are you mad because you're just wrong, and blindly defending a guy whose career stats are behind the likes of such superstars as Marcus Mariota and Ryan Tannehill?

Honestly, at this point, him being traded sounds good just so you'll fuck off to another team, to continue to have these same arguments for the next 3 years with someone else.
 
beardown07 said:
It is at the TE position, duh. Now if only he had a top 2 running game, number 1 run D, and top 15 overall defense.:rolleyes2:

Nobody said Mooney was a good as Moore. As usual, you've missed the point. Remember when all last year, the excuse was he didn't have a true number one? Got that this year. Still sucks.

I really am sorry, that at 8:30 AM, while sipping my first cup of coffee, I bruised your vagina by saying. "sorry". Or are you mad because you're just wrong, and blindly defending a guy whose career stats are behind the likes of such superstars as Marcus Mariota and Ryan Tannehill?

Honestly, at this point, him being traded sounds good just so you'll fuck off to another team, to continue to have these same arguments for the next 3 years with someone else.
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beardown07 said:
It is at the TE position, duh. Now if only he had a top 2 running game, number 1 run D, and top 15 overall defense.:rolleyes2:

Nobody said Mooney was a good as Moore. As usual, you've missed the point. Remember when all last year, the excuse was he didn't have a true number one? Got that this year. Still sucks.

I really am sorry, that at 8:30 AM, while sipping my first cup of coffee, I bruised your vagina by saying. "sorry". Or are you mad because you're just wrong, and blindly defending a guy whose career stats are behind the likes of such superstars as Marcus Mariota and Ryan Tannehill?

Honestly, at this point, him being traded sounds good just so you'll fuck off to another team, to continue to have these same arguments for the next 3 years with someone else.
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Yes, I'm aware he's a top 10 TE. That means jack shit when you aren't even top 50 in the NFL in receiving yards. By your logic, Taysom Hill is an elite weapon because he had the 6th most rushing yards among QBs. Of course, he was also 55th in the league in rushing, but he was top 10 among QBs, so that must mean New Orleans is elite right? Also WTF are you spouting off about the running game when Fields led the fucking team in rushing yards?

It's awfully rich hearing a fan of an organization that is most famous for destroying QBs tell you that you're the retard for thinking there's a problem with the organization and not necessarily the player. Tell me this, rain man - if he's so awful, why do all of his teammates want him back? Do they all love losing or something? Or maybe there's a reason why not a single one of them gave a shit when the entire offensive coaching staff was fired.

Maybe you ought to consider some of this before making yourself look like an idiot.
 
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Yes, I'm aware he's a top 10 TE. That means jack shit when you aren't even top 50 in the NFL in receiving yards. By your logic, Taysom Hill is an elite weapon because he had the 6th most rushing yards among QBs. Of course, he was also 55th in the league in rushing, but he was top 10 among QBs, so that must mean New Orleans is elite right? Also WTF are you spouting off about the running game when Fields led the fucking team in rushing yards?

It's awfully rich hearing a fan of an organization that is most famous for destroying QBs tell you that you're the retard for thinking there's a problem with the organization and not necessarily the player. Tell me this, rain man - if he's so awful, why do all of his teammates want him back? Do they all love losing or something? Or maybe there's a reason why not a single one of them gave a shit when the entire offensive coaching staff was fired.

Maybe you ought to consider some of this before making yourself look like an idiot.
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So to clarify, he doesn't have any weapons, except an elite Number 1 WR, the 8th best TE in the league, a former 1000 yard No. 2, a committee of good running backs that rushed for 1400 yards, and an o-line that allowed a 6th ranked, 2.66 seconds per pass. And then also the 12th ranked D, and Number 1 ranked run D. Poor guy.

And oh my goodness, teammates aren't publicly trashing their QB, and instead allowing coaches to be scapegoats!? No way!? Stop the presses. :rolleyes2:
 
beardown07 said:
So to clarify, he doesn't have any weapons, except an elite Number 1 WR, the 8th best TE in the league, a former 1000 yard No. 2, a committee of good running backs that rushed for 1400 yards, and an o-line that allowed a 6th ranked, 2.66 seconds per pass. And then also the 12th ranked D, and Number 1 ranked run D. Poor guy.

And oh my goodness, teammates aren't publicly trashing their QB, and instead allowing coaches to be scapegoats!? No way!? Stop the presses. :rolleyes2:
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To clarify, you have a QB who hasn't had any semblance of competent coaching in 3 years in the NFL. You have a receiver group that creates less separation for him than any other receiver group in the NFL. A committee of RBs that rushed for 1400 yards in a 17 game season is nothing. The Ravens are the only team in the NFL who got a higher % of rushing yards from the QB position than Chicago. The defense took a step forward into mediocrity this year after being ungodly horrible last year, so that was nice.

His teammates could have easily brushed the question off and said that it wasn't their decision or that it's a business so we'll see what happens (typical responses) but instead they unanimously backed their QB. But again, they all must just love losing, because why else would they have faith in him?
 
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To clarify, you have a QB who hasn't had any semblance of competent coaching in 3 years in the NFL. You have a receiver group that creates less separation for him than any other receiver group in the NFL. A committee of RBs that rushed for 1400 yards in a 17 game season is nothing. The Ravens are the only team in the NFL who got a higher % of rushing yards from the QB position than Chicago. The defense took a step forward into mediocrity this year after being ungodly horrible last year, so that was nice.

His teammates could have easily brushed the question off and said that it wasn't their decision or that it's a business so we'll see what happens (typical responses) but instead they unanimously backed their QB. But again, they all must just love losing, because why else would they have faith in him?
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Competent coaching staff = nonstarter. It's which came first, the chicken or the egg nonsense. So what's that, 2 coaches and 2 OC's? Third time's the charm, I guess.

The receiver separation is a dumb, cherrypicked stat. Again, does that factor in his decision-making and pocket presence?

1400 yards would obviously be more if the QB didn't rush the ball as many times as the starting back. And the Ravens are the only other team in front of the Bears as a whole rushing, so I'm not sure what point yer making there. Take away 600 yards and add back 3 to 400 likely. BFD. It'd take him 4 games to pass for that 600 yds.

The Defense is Number 1 against the run. 12 overall. And yes, it is a great improvement in one season. Leads me to believe Poles can improve others areas just as quickly. *cough...QB play...cough*

Fields is a first half hero. Second half dud.

Bottom line, if Poles passes on the number one pick two years in a row, and this mawfk comes out next year and we see more of the same bullshit we've seen, they will have to put Poles in the witness protection program.

You gut dudes coming in brand new every year now, and killing it. How much time SHOULD he get?
 
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