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Blackshirts BLVD said:
Ok. Make coach contracts go through a governing body and stipulate that they cannot voluntarily leave a job without having been either previously agreed with the institution in question (i.e. firing) or after serving 2-3 years as coach or they will be barred from coaching for one collegiate season.
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Things will be moving in the opposite direction. Murica.
 
Blackshirts BLVD said:
Ok. Make coach contracts go through a governing body and stipulate that they cannot voluntarily leave a job without having been either previously agreed with the institution in question (i.e. firing) or after serving 2-3 years as coach or they will be barred from coaching for one collegiate season.
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No can do. Been there, done that, lost the case in 1995 (while this doesn't directly address restricting transfers, the holding of the case would prohibit that as being anit-competitive):

Recently, several sports reporters called on the NCAA to cap college coaches' salaries. However, as most NCAA employees know, their organization can't do this. It's against the law.

The law that prevents the NCAA from capping coaches' salaries is Section 1 of the Sherman Act. And, the specific case that found capping salaries to be illegal: the 1998 U.S. Court of Appeals decision, Law v. NCAA.

Section 1 of the Sherman Act is America's charter of free trade. It states that “[e]very contract, combination … or conspiracy in the restraint of trade or commerce … is declared to be illegal." As such, Section 1 of the Sherman Act forbids a wide range of collective conduct, including most forms of price fixing, wage fixing, and group boycotts.

In Law v. NCAA, several college basketball coaches challenged an NCAA rule that required its members to make one basketball coach per school into a "restricted-earnings coach" with a salary set at $16,000 per year. The coaches argued that the salary cap was a form of wage-fixing that violated Section 1 of the Sherman Act.

Ultimately, the coaches won. Not only was the salary cap found to be an illegal restraint of trade, but both the district and appellate court fully rejected the NCAA's purported justification. As Judge David M. Ebel of the U.S. Court of Appeals explained, "cost-cutting by itself is not a valid procompetitive justification. If it were, any group of competing buyers could agree on maximizing price."
www.forbes.com

Why an NCAA Cap on College Coaches' Salaries Would Be Illegal

An attempt to cap coaches' salaries is nothing new for the NCAA. They tried it before in 1992, but it was found to be illegal. (Photo credit: Wikipedia) Recently, several sports reporters called on the NCAA to cap college coaches' salaries. However, as most NCAA employees know, their...
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DayButtAssMans’s said:
They can’t. Unless there’s a special circumstance that allows it, they can transfer once without sitting out, plus a grad transfer.
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Right now they can. There was an injunction entered in a case earlier this year and the NCAA removed the transfer limit pending the outcome of the case. Most recently, like yesterday, the DOJ entered the lawsuit to remove the transfer restrictions on a second transfer.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Right now they can. There was an injunction entered in a case earlier this year and the NCAA removed the transfer limit pending the outcome of the case. Most recently, like yesterday, the DOJ entered the lawsuit to remove the transfer restrictions on a second transfer.
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Touché.

However, for argument sake, that’s not a thing we’ve seen to this point, and I think it’s unlikely we’ll see players bounce around more than what was previously allowed much.

Regardless, your last couple of posts show why these message board solutions are stupid beyond just being stupid for stupid sake. Transfers, NIL, all this new stuff people don’t like has been legislated and/or court ordered. Coming up with goofy “everyone should just have to play the game how I like and honor every commitment they ever make” ideas is some real ignorant shit.
 
DayButtAssMans’s said:
Touché.

However, for argument sake, that’s not a thing we’ve seen to this point, and I think it’s unlikely we’ll see players bounce around more than what was previously allowed much.

Regardless, your last couple of posts show why these message board solutions are stupid beyond just being stupid for stupid sake. Transfers, NIL, all this new stuff people don’t like has been legislated and/or court ordered. Coming up with goofy “everyone should just have to play the game how I like and honor every commitment they ever make” ideas is some real ignorant shit.
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Right here. The ultimate goal is still to make it to the NFL, and you're not going to do that by switching teams/coaches/systems every year. Development is key, and constantly switching like that would be off-putting for pro teams, I'm sure.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Agreed. Watch out for Auburn and Clemson. Two programs needing QB help more than tOSU
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Word is Julien Lewis is beginning to look around.. currently a SC commit
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
If Julian Sayin is smart, he'd come to UM. At least he'd have a shot to win a national title. Going to OSU and he is destined to a career of being 2nd fiddle. :hide:
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Lewis is talking to Auburn, UGA

Wait isn't Underwood from Michigan or near it?? if he doesn't want to go there why would Sayin?
 
Thiefery said:
Word is Julien Lewis is beginning to look around.. currently a SC commit

Lewis is talking to Auburn, UGA

Wait isn't Underwood from Michigan or near it?? if he doesn't want to go there why would Sayin?
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He's goofin
 
DayButtAssMans’s said:
Touché.

However, for argument sake, that’s not a thing we’ve seen to this point, and I think it’s unlikely we’ll see players bounce around more than what was previously allowed much.

Regardless, your last couple of posts show why these message board solutions are stupid beyond just being stupid for stupid sake. Transfers, NIL, all this new stuff people don’t like has been legislated and/or court ordered. Coming up with goofy “everyone should just have to play the game how I like and honor every commitment they ever make” ideas is some real ignorant shit.
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We might as well just have a high school draft at this point.
 
DayButtAssMans’s said:
Touché.

However, for argument sake, that’s not a thing we’ve seen to this point, and I think it’s unlikely we’ll see players bounce around more than what was previously allowed much.

Regardless, your last couple of posts show why these message board solutions are stupid beyond just being stupid for stupid sake. Transfers, NIL, all this new stuff people don’t like has been legislated and/or court ordered. Coming up with goofy “everyone should just have to play the game how I like and honor every commitment they ever make” ideas is some real ignorant shit.
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Sure, I agree. But the legal landscape will not let colleges continue not to pay the labor. When the sports weren't generating billions of dollars, no one cared. Getting an education and maybe going to the NFL for a few was worth plenty. But when coaches' salaries went through the roof, ADs were getting millions, and conferences were signing contracts worth 8 billion dollars, the idea that the labor would go unpaid was not only unethical and immoral, but it was illegal.

The answer is simple and complex at the same time. The simple part is to employ the student-athletes and then collectively bargain with them. If they are being paid and helped write and agree with the rules, then you have the guardrails you want because there is agreement, not something being forced on them. It's kind of hard to complain about something you agreed to and are getting paid for.

The complex part is how to make it work with Titel IX and other non-revenue-generating sports.
 
Thiefery said:
Word is Julien Lewis is beginning to look around.. currently a SC commit

Lewis is talking to Auburn, UGA

Wait isn't Underwood from Michigan or near it?? if he doesn't want to go there why would Sayin?
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No one has him ending up at USC. UGA is in the middle of it. We are also in the middle of the no. 1 guy in the 2026 class. Lots of moving parts.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Sure, I agree. But the legal landscape will not let colleges continue not to pay the labor. When the sports weren't generating billions of dollars, no one cared. Getting an education and maybe going to the NFL for a few was worth plenty. But when coaches' salaries went through the roof, ADs were getting millions, and conferences were signing contracts worth 8 billion dollars, the idea that the labor would go unpaid was not only unethical and immoral, but it was illegal.

The answer is simple and complex at the same time. The simple part is to employ the student-athletes and then collectively bargain with them. If they are being paid and helped write and agree with the rules, then you have the guardrails you want because there is agreement, not something being forced on them. It's kind of hard to complain about something you agreed to and are getting paid for.

The complex part is how to make it work with Titel IX and other non-revenue-generating sports.
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Hell, if they collectively bargain, won’t many of them make less than they are with NIL? Or will NIL be on top of their agreed to compensation?
 
osubuckeye89 said:
One of the main on3 guys is saying that Sayin is a lock to go to Ohio State if Ohio State allows him, ball is in our court.
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As good as this kid maybe, can we let him slide and get Downs and Proctor instead?
 
Thiefery said:
Word is Julien Lewis is beginning to look around.. currently a SC commit

Lewis is talking to Auburn, UGA

Wait isn't Underwood from Michigan or near it?? if he doesn't want to go there why would Sayin?
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