Tennessee Being Investigated for NIL Violations

[Across The Field]

Not at all. I just look at CFB as the have and the have nots. No matter what "caps" they set, the 'have' teams will find ways to circumvent it thru back door deals and they absolutely will circumvent it.

I would LOVE to see parity in CFB and for them to have a hard cap set for all teams, but the NCAA doesn't have the power to enforce it. I guess I shouldn't say they don't have the power, but proving something shady happened is next to impossible for them unless someone comes out and admits it after the fact.

I bet you would, comrade. Maybe you should just replace your dipshit AD who doesn't understand the importance of NIL.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

I bet you would, comrade. Maybe you should just replace your dipshit AD who doesn't understand the importance of NIL.

You keep buying players. One year OAM will beat THE National Champion Michigan Wolverines again. Until then, you will always have 2019 to look back on as the last time you beat your rival on the football field

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

But this would be fucking players. The kids with scholarships for non-revenue generating sports would be royally fucked because now they wouldn't have a team or scholarship.

The time will come where the football players are going to say, "why are you trying to make us fund all these other athletes?"

Why should equestrian riders use the money generated by football players? They can pay their own way. Or the university can find alternative funding.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Not at all. I just look at CFB as the have and the have nots. No matter what "caps" they set, the 'have' teams will find ways to circumvent it thru back door deals and they absolutely will circumvent it.

I would LOVE to see parity in CFB and for them to have a hard cap set for all teams, but the NCAA doesn't have the power to enforce it. I guess I shouldn't say they don't have the power, but proving something shady happened is next to impossible for them unless someone comes out and admits it after the fact.

They don't have the authority now, but they would if they start paying the players. And the NCAA can crack down on the backdoor deals if they want to. They won't circumvent it the fist time a player is deemed ineligible for life - and they won't be able to sue about it because the players agreed to the rules. Stop fighting the idea of paying the players and a CBA and understand that with it the NCAA or whatever group comes after them will be empowered to actually enforce the rules. They have in the past, there is no reason they can't in the future.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Seems like it would be logical to demand a % if schools are not only giving the kids a free education, and also paying these kids as players, but also providing them with the elite coaching, training, facilities, etc. only for them to leave in 3, 4 years.

They can ask, but can't demand a damn thing. In case you haven't been keeping up with current events, the NCAA has been getting their ass kicked in court. They aren't in any position to demand anything.

 

[Across The Field]

The time will come where the football players are going to say, "why are you trying to make us fund all these other athletes?"

Why should equestrian riders use the money generated by football players? They can pay their own way. Or the university can find alternative funding.

It could come, but with NIL now making sure the top football players are all getting paid, I don't think they care as much about the other sports being funded. I like to think the athletes at universities to at least have some semblance of a bond where they all want to see the others succeed. Football generates way more money, but the top NIL earners at almost every school will be football player after football player with a few outliers sprinkled in. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

 

[Across The Field]

You keep buying players. One year OAM will beat THE National Champion Michigan Wolverines again. Until then, you will always have 2019 to look back on as the last time you beat your rival on the football field

LOL your entire fanbase is flipping out about Moore coming in and saying he was gonna bust NIL open at michigan and then Warde putting the hammer down on that notion. They're incredibly pissed that all the other schools are utilizing NIL while michigan is stuck in the stone age. OSU hasn't had to buy a single player, but I know that truth won't stop you from being the troll that you are. Embrace the title you had to cheat in order to get while OSU still looks down on you.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

LOL your entire fanbase is flipping out about Moore coming in and saying he was gonna bust NIL open at michigan and then Warde putting the hammer down on that notion. They're incredibly pissed that all the other schools are utilizing NIL while michigan is stuck in the stone age. OSU hasn't had to buy a single player, but I know that truth won't stop you from being the troll that you are. Embrace the title you had to cheat in order to get while OSU still looks down on you.

Michigan was handicapped by multiple things and still won a national title. You better hope we don't modernize NIL.

 

[Across The Field]

Michigan was handicapped by multiple things and still won a national title. You better hope we don't modernize NIL.

LOL what's wild is your fanbase actually has morons like you who would believe that

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

LOL what's wild is your fanbase actually has morons like you who would believe that

We were missing a head coach for 1/2 of the season. We averaged worse than a top 10 recruiting class. A majority of our star players were developed 3 stars. And our NIL approach is ridiculous.

 

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[Across The Field]

We were missing a head coach for 1/2 of the season. We averaged worse than a top 10 recruiting class. A majority of our star players were developed 3 stars. And our NIL approach is ridiculous.

Your transfer class was rated 7th in average player rating and you had 9 of them. You had a shitload of returning starters/experienced depth on both sides of the ball. Your best players (JJ, Corum, Wilson, Corn Johnson, Loveland, Colson, Sabb, Graham, Will Johnson) were all 4 or 5* recruits. You faced the weakest CFP field in its 10 year existence.

Oh yeah, you also cheated for 2.5 years and would've kept cheating had you not gotten busted.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

It could come, but with NIL now making sure the top football players are all getting paid, I don't think they care as much about the other sports being funded. I like to think the athletes at universities to at least have some semblance of a bond where they all want to see the others succeed. Football generates way more money, but the top NIL earners at almost every school will be football player after football player with a few outliers sprinkled in. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

The current NIL situation can't last.

And, no, the football players are not going be okay funding entire university athletic budgets, IMO. They've gotten a taste now, it's just a matter of time.

 

[Across The Field]

The current NIL situation can't last.

And, no, the football players are not going be okay funding entire university athletic budgets, IMO. They've gotten a taste now, it's just a matter of time.

This makes no sense. It also isn't their choice how funds are used.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

LOL your entire fanbase is flipping out about Moore coming in and saying he was gonna bust NIL open at michigan and then Warde putting the hammer down on that notion. They're incredibly pissed that all the other schools are utilizing NIL while michigan is stuck in the stone age. OSU hasn't had to buy a single player, but I know that truth won't stop you from being the troll that you are. Embrace the title you had to cheat in order to get while OSU still looks down on you.

I couldn't care less about NIL or if Warde allows it. We are THE National Champs. We did it without buying players and with an administration who isn't helping in the least bit. We still kicked OAM's ass the last three years though. It became no challenge at all for our coaching staff, so they moved on to the NFL. Harbaugh is the HC for the Chargers. Mike MacDonald is the HC of the Seattle Seahawks. Jesse Minter is the DC of the Chargers. You are just lucky that no one in the NFL wants your coaching staff.

ALso, Did you honestly just say you have never bought a player when you JUST BOUGHT Judkins -- who literally said he was making a business decision entering the portal and was wanting between $1 and $1.5 million AND you did the EXACT SAME THING for Caleb Downs, who was going to transfer to Georgia before OAM's NIL collective gave him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Let me guess though -- they transferred to OAM because of all the success you have had with that one title a decade ago and 2 titles in 50+ years.

 

[Across The Field]

I couldn't care less about NIL or if Warde allows it. We are THE National Champs. We did it without buying players and with an administration who isn't helping in the least bit. We still kicked OAM's ass the last three years though. It became no challenge at all for our coaching staff, so they moved on to the NFL. Harbaugh is the HC for the Chargers. Mike MacDonald is the HC of the Seattle Seahawks. Jesse Minter is the DC of the Chargers. You are just lucky that no one in the NFL wants your coaching staff.

ALso, Did you honestly just say you have never bought a player when you JUST BOUGHT Judkins -- who literally said he was making a business decision entering the portal and was wanting between $1 and $1.5 million AND you did the EXACT SAME THING for Caleb Downs, who was going to transfer to Georgia before OAM's NIL collective gave him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Let me guess though -- they transferred to OAM because of all the success you have had with that one title a decade ago and 2 titles in 50+ years.

tldr, as usual you're trying too hard

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

This makes no sense. It also isn't their choice how funds are used.

It makes all the sense in the world if you open your mind to the idea that what you have seen for the previous part of your life is no longer the reality.

- the players now have power, and they will get paid.
- the players will have a CBA, and they will have the ability to bargain for compensation, ability to move, etc.
- they will have a indirect choice in how the money they generate is spent - if that means they get so much of it that it causes budget problems elsewhere, that's not their problem. That's the problem of the the other sports that have been riding the coattails of the football program, the only program that really generates any revenue.

If you don't think this is coming - 10-20 years - you just aren't paying attention or don't want to pay attention.

 

[Across The Field]

It makes all the sense in the world if you open your mind to the idea that what you have seen for the previous part of your life is no longer the reality.

- the players now have power, and they will get paid.
- the players will have a CBA, and they will have the ability to bargain for compensation, ability to move, etc.
- they will have a indirect choice in how the money they generate is spent - if that means they get so much of it that it causes budget problems elsewhere, that's not their problem. That's the problem of the the other sports that have been riding the coattails of the football program, the only program that really generates any revenue.

If you don't think this is coming - 10-20 years - you just aren't paying attention or don't want to pay attention.

The players have power over NIL. They do not have power over the universities. Again, if you're saying that schools are just going to make coaches and administrators take paycuts, or cut all the sports, it just isn't happening. I also don't have any sort of notion that the football or basketball players want that themselves. They'd be pariahs and likely get run off campus for ruining hundreds of other students' lives.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

The players have power over NIL. They do not have power over the universities. Again, if you're saying that schools are just going to make coaches and administrators take paycuts, or cut all the sports, it just isn't happening. I also don't have any sort of notion that the football or basketball players want that themselves. They'd be pariahs and likely get run off campus for ruining hundreds of other students' lives.

What part of "they aren't going to have an option" do you not get. Over the next 10 years, the NCAA is going to lose dozens of lawsuits that will require that they compensate the players. There is one lawsuit that just got class action certified that if the plaintiff wins could cost the NCAA schools over $3 billion dollars in past damages. That's just one of dozens of lawsuits that have been filed.

Once that happens, the schools will not have a choice. They will have to pay the players their fair market value or continue to lose cases. Once they are forced to pay the players, they will have very few choices - try to raise more money, or cut costs. Doing neither will not be an option. Perhaps this is our disconnect ... you think that there is some way the status quo will continue. There isn't a chance in hell that is going to happen.

So, the players have the best kind of power over the universities - the law. And the law has been and will continue to kick the schools' asses until they finally decide to pay the players their worth. You may not like it, but that will be the future.

 

[Across The Field]

What part of "they aren't going to have an option" do you not get. Over the next 10 years, the NCAA is going to lose dozens of lawsuits that will require that they compensate the players. There is one lawsuit that just got class action certified that if the plaintiff wins could cost the NCAA schools over $3 billion dollars in past damages. That's just one of dozens of lawsuits that have been filed.

Once that happens, the schools will not have a choice. They will have to pay the players their fair market value or continue to lose cases. Once they are forced to pay the players, they will have very few choices - try to raise more money, or cut costs. Doing neither will not be an option. Perhaps this is our disconnect ... you think that there is some way the status quo will continue. There isn't a chance in hell that is going to happen.

So, the players have the best kind of power over the universities - the law. And the law has been and will continue to kick the schools' asses until they finally decide to pay the players their worth. You may not like it, but that will be the future.

What makes you think that universities are going to pay out billions and billions of dollars like this? The overwhelming majority of them will fold their athletic departments entirely before it ever came close to that. At the end of the day, that's what this comes down to. There is a tipping point for universities, and if things keep getting pushed over players' greed, they're going to ruin things for themselves.

NIL is more than enough for players. They'll fold that into the universities long before you'll start seeing coaches and administrators taking paycuts. That just simply is not happening.