More Michigan Cheating

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
lol no it didn't. As I mentioned multiple instances where Michigan was an arm's length away from doing it. Ohio State was bound to get caught at some point, and the coaching change between Urban and Ryan Day was it. You no longer have an elite coach. You still have elite players, but without an elite coach you're beatable. He makes bad in game decisions, like punting inside Michigan territory (thanks for that BTW). Urban would have never

The biggest difference in the rivalry really wasn't Michigan, it was Ohio State hiring a high school coach.
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LOL Day whooped the shit out of michigan his first game and would have in his second if you hadn't ducked him. Then you cheated for 2 years and yet somehow, with your best team in history last year playing at home, you just barely survived. How can that happen vs. a high school coach?

Yes, it came out of nowhere. Everyone knows that but michigan fans. There were not multiple instances where michigan was an "arms length away". There was one game in 2016 with Hoke's recruits (against Urban, no less) where you were close. You were not close any other season before 2021.
 
Across The Field said:
LOL Day whooped the shit out of michigan his first game and would have in his second if you hadn't ducked him. Then you cheated for 2 years and yet somehow, with your best team in history last year playing at home, you just barely survived. How can that happen vs. a high school coach?

Yes, it came out of nowhere. Everyone knows that but michigan fans. There were not multiple instances where michigan was an "arms length away". There was one game in 2016 with Hoke's recruits (against Urban, no less) where you were close. You were not close any other season before 2021.
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Right. With Urban's entire roster. Two years later, when he had his own kids, you sucked. Pretty classic trajectory actually. We won't see what happens with Alabama for another couple years.

Michigan had a don brown problem, and got rid of don brown.
 
Across The Field said:
Leaving out pretty vital context is what makes your point so disgustingly shitty, btw. You aren't making a point.
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That was the context. I compared equal crimes at a criminal, and punishment, level.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Same level of offense in my opinion. Pass INT actually has more of an impact on the actual game. Neither is cheating in the sense that you're trying to use it.
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The NCAA, and literally everyone else who isn't a UM homer, disagrees with this idiotic statement.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Right. With Urban's entire roster. Two years later, when he had his own kids, you sucked. Pretty classic trajectory actually. We won't see what happens with Alabama for another couple years.

Michigan had a don brown problem, and got rid of don brown.
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LOL "Urban's entire roster". As if Day hadn't been there for several years playing a vital role in recruiting and development. Hell, he's the reason we got Justin Fields. He was also the reason Barrett was able to have his best season yet in Day's first year and Dwayne Haskins broke records. Keep proving you do not know how college football works though. Makes sense coming from a team that is only able to be successful when cheating on the field though.
 
Across The Field said:
But in your opinion, two grown men voluntarily getting into a bar fight is the exact same thing as a small woman being sexually assaulted by a much larger man, so your opinion is dogshit.
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Exactly what I have been saying. In-person scouting would be similar to watching two grown men voluntarily getting into a bar fight. For the record, in most courts, fighting would be considered mutual fray and the case would be dismissed. They could be held criminally culpable for any damage done to property. In that case Michigan is guilty, because we broke ohio state's heart. Apologies!!
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
That was the context. I compared equal crimes at a criminal, and punishment, level.
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No it wasn't. The idea that both aren't crimes was never presented. You just tried to take it that way to excuse your disgusting slime of a HC who made a guy that assaults women into a team captain. We don't need to go back down this road.
 
Voltaire said:
Exactly what I have been saying. In-person scouting would be similar to watching two grown men voluntarily getting into a bar fight. For the record, in most courts, fighting would be considered mutual fray and the case would be dismissed. They could be held criminally culpable for any damage done to property. In that case Michigan is guilty, because we broke ohio state's heart. Apologies!!
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...what?
 
Across The Field said:
LOL "Urban's entire roster". As if Day hadn't been there for several years playing a vital role in recruiting and development. Hell, he's the reason we got Justin Fields. He was also the reason Barrett was able to have his best season yet in Day's first year and Dwayne Haskins broke records. Keep proving you do not know how college football works though. Makes sense coming from a team that is only able to be successful when cheating on the field though.
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Ohio State's offense hasn't been the problem. Most of these games Ohio State's offense hasn't been stopped by MIchigan's defense, you've still scored a ton of points. But you've been run over and allowed Michigan to control the pace of the game.
 
fordman84 said:
Oh wow, that's some breaking news! The guy being accused of cheating is saying his accusers are wrong? STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES!!! This might be a first!
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If a criminal organization accuses you of cheating, you laugh at them. We've responded appropriately.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
If a criminal organization accuses you of cheating, you laugh at them. We've responded appropriately.
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They weren't a "criminal organization" when they were going after tOSU. Now they are. What changed?
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Right. With Urban's entire roster. Two years later, when he had his own kids, you sucked. Pretty classic trajectory actually. We won't see what happens with Alabama for another couple years.

Michigan had a don brown problem, and got rid of don brown.
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What year did ohio state suck? I think you are misinformed.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Ohio State's offense hasn't been the problem. Most of these games Ohio State's offense hasn't been stopped by MIchigan's defense, you've still scored a ton of points. But you've been run over and allowed Michigan to control the pace of the game.
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Dude, a team with CJ Stroud, Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, a 3rd round pick at TE, four NFL offensive linemen and a healthy Trey Henderson only scored 3 more points than our 2023 OSU offense which was rated in the 40s in PPG against michigan's greatest defense ever. Only difference was Stallions was on the sidelines.
 
Voltaire said:
Just elaborating on you analogy :nod:
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I didn't present an analogy. It was an actual event that your fellow michigan fan said was on the same level as sexually assaulting a small woman.
 
fordman84 said:
They weren't a "criminal organization" when they were going after tOSU. Now they are. What changed?
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They were, just hadn't been uncovered yet. Ohio State should be given reparations.
 
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