Astroworld Festival tragedy

Illustrious Potentate said:
I still listen to both. My first taste of Jason Isbell as a solo artist was when he did a post game concert at the new Braves stadium in 2017. Jim Johnson blew a 3 run save chance that night
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I started listening to them when he was in, then faded out after he left.

Like both.
 
ill said:
that surprises me based on your political leanings
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I have always separated music and politics. Bob Dylan and Kris Kristofferson are probably in my all time top 5 too. Good music is good music
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I have always separated music and politics. Bob Dylan is probably in my all time top 5 too. Good music is good music
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even though their last few albums have been very heavy on the politics?

I feel like their last non political one was English Oceans
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I have always separated music and politics. Bob Dylan is probably in my all time top 5 too. Good music is good music
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Not a vocals guy eh?

After I went to a Dylan show almost 20 years and he just sat there, pissed people had came. I’ve been done with him.

Enjoy people covering his songs still though. But he can fuck right off.
 
ill said:
even though their last few albums have been very heavy on the politics?

I feel like their last non political one was English Oceans
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If the music is good, I don’t care.
 
broncosmitty said:
Not a vocals guy eh?

After I went to a Dylan show almost 20 years and he just sat there, pissed people had came. I’ve been done with him.

Enjoy people covering his songs still though. But he can fuck right off.
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The singing voice is the least important part of the song to me. He’s 80, so the only reason I’d go see him now is just to say I’ve seen him(though Merle Haggard put on a great show when he was 78)
 
ill said:
lyrics are part of the music...
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I think I get where @Illustrious Potentate is coming from. I comprehend vocals first and foremost as a musical instrument. The actual lyrics themselves or message behind the lyrics is often thoroughly irrelevant to my positive or negative affinity for the song. I've had friends and family get frustrated at me for liking songs and ignoring the lyrics/message.

Two recent examples of people questioning me about my affinity for songs are "Creep Fast" by Twista and "Reise, Reise" by Rammstein. Twista spits his lyrics so fast that you can barely understand a word he says, but he does it with such spectacular rhythm and precision that it sounds kinda like he is shredding a violin. It's awesome! I don't speak or understand hardly any German, but I requested that "Reise, Reise" be played at a recent party and got chastised for requesting a song I had no idea what they're saying. I don't give a fuck, the song is powerful and groovy.



 
RP-29 said:
I think I get where @Illustrious Potentate is coming from. I comprehend vocals first and foremost as a musical instrument. The actual lyrics themselves or message behind the lyrics is often thoroughly irrelevant to my positive or negative affinity for the song. I've had friends and family get frustrated at me for liking songs and ignoring the lyrics/message.

Two recent examples of people questioning me about my affinity for songs are "Creep Fast" by Twista and "Reise, Reise" by Rammstein. Twista spits his lyrics so fast that you can barely understand a word he says, but he does it with such spectacular rhythm and precision that it sounds kinda like he is shredding a violin. It's awesome! I don't speak or understand hardly any German, but I requested that "Reise, Reise" be played at a recent party and got chastised for requesting a song I had no idea what they're saying. I don't give a fuck, the song is powerful and groovy.



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I had a girl ask me if I preferred the beat and rhythm or music or the lyrics...I thought it was an interesting question...
 
ill said:
I had a girl ask me if I preferred the beat and rhythm or music or the lyrics...I thought it was an interesting question...
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It depends entirely on the style. If it’s heavy metal or bluegrass, lyrics don’t matter at all, but nobody is listening to Bob Dylan for the beat
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
It depends entirely on the style. If it’s heavy metal or bluegrass, lyrics don’t matter at all, but nobody is listening to Bob Dylan for the beat
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I disagree

you could 100% listen to Dylan for the music. While he is a great singer-songwriter, there is still something to say for the music being played.

and I am sure the opposite can be said for metal or bluegrass.
 
ill said:
I had a girl ask me if I preferred the beat and rhythm or music or the lyrics...I thought it was an interesting question...
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I've been kinda curious how common/rare it is that a person comprehends vocals predominantly as a musical musical instrument and only vaguely pays any attention to the spoken words/message. I've also been curious to know if it correlates in any way to they types of music those types of people prefer.
 
broncosmitty said:
After I went to a Dylan show almost 20 years and he just sat there, pissed people had came. I’ve been done with him.
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John C Reilly Seriously GIF
 
RP-29 said:
I've been kinda curious how common/rare it is that a person comprehends vocals predominantly as a musical musical instrument and only vaguely pays any attention to the spoken words/message. I've also been curious to know if it correlates in any way to they types of music those types of people prefer.
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I consider myself a big lyrics guy, but I don't need them. I listen to a shitload of jazz without singing.
 
ojb81 said:
ehhh yeah, but, phish fans are a breed unto themselves
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I don’t know…as breeding goes parrotheads can be on the same level imo.
 
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