Coaching Carousel Scorecard This Season

seems like Napier to FL is a done deal
 
Bayou Tiger said:
It should be interesting to see what shakes out of the SEC with all these new hires in the next few years.

Watch Saban retire at the end of the season after winning another Championship. (Sorry Georgia!)
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I don’t think Saban would leave without having his successor already on staff.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I don’t think Saban would leave without having his successor already on staff.
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I don't think Saban would give a shit who they hire after him.

He'll coach until he doesn't want to and then he will retire to the lake. The chances of him hanging around Tuscaloosa and dealing with the stupidity that goes with being Nick Saban in the state of Alabama is zero. He will be at his lake house in Georgia and probably have a winter home on the coast somewhere.
 
Wild Turkey said:
www.outkick.com

LSU Football Coach Search Down To 3: Baylor's Dave Aranda, Louisiana's Billy Napier and Iowa State's Matt Campbell

BATON ROUGE -- The LSU football coaching search is down to three candidates, and a new coach could be named by "the end of this week" or early next week,
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Aranda
Napier
Campbell

All would be a huge improvement over who they've had since Saban. I still don't completely buy that Tucker is out but that beat down by Ohio State might have killed his stock.
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well, it's not Napier.. so it's Aranda or Campbell.. Campbell is a shit recruiter, so it may work out better for him in BR, since he'll fall backwards into the state's best.

Aranda has been there and is familiar.. I personally think he's better than Campbell.
 
Thiefery said:
well, it's not Napier.. so it's Aranda or Campbell.. Campbell is a shit recruiter, so it may work out better for him in BR, since he'll fall backwards into the state's best.

Aranda has been there and is familiar.. I personally think he's better than Campbell.
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LSU should run Napier’s value up as much as possible and then hire Aranda. Make Florida pay big bucks.

For the record I’d be happy with Campbell. What he has done at ISU has been impressive and he is the best coach they’ve had that I can ever remember.
 
Thiefery said:
well, it's not Napier.. so it's Aranda or Campbell.. Campbell is a shit recruiter, so it may work out better for him in BR, since he'll fall backwards into the state's best.

Aranda has been there and is familiar.. I personally think he's better than Campbell.
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I’m surprised Mark Stoops isn’t getting more looks as he has grossly over achieved at KY.
 
It’s a roll of the dice no matter who gets hired.

Like I've stated before, I just want LSU to hire someone who isn't a cartoon character buffoon and I'll be happy to support them.
 
Wild Turkey said:
LSU should run Napier’s value up as much as possible and then hire Aranda. Make Florida pay big bucks.

For the record I’d be happy with Campbell. What he has done at ISU has been impressive and he is the best coach they’ve had that I can ever remember.
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Gatorchip said:
I’m reading the same.

this type of hire worked out with Urban Meyer. Not so much with Mcelwain.

probably a safer move than Kiffen.
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From O and D coordinators to G5 HC's who make the step up, they're all a gamble. However, someone needs to take the risk on guys like Fickell and Napier no different than they did Urbs.
Guys like Frost and Neal Brown were hot at the G5 level, but struggle at their P5's. Maybe they just need more time or the added pressure is just too much for them. Who knows?
I think a lot of it has to do with who they surround themselves with as assistants. They want their G5 buddies who got them there to reap the benefits as well instead of leaving them behind and surrounding themselves with experienced P5 guys. See Frost with
Walters (OC), Verduzco (QB's), Austin (OL), and Held (RB's). All followed him from UCF and the offense has never gotten to the P5 level.
Nebraska's offense under Frost has been criticized for 'beating itself' with penalties and turnovers. Well penalties and turnovers happen because you're getting beat. Getting beat leads to the false starts and holding.
When things aren't going well, the HC doesn't want to see his long time buddy and their family in the unemployment line. The result is the HC himself being sent to the unemployment line.
IMO the AD's doing the hiring of these G5 coaches need to be more involved in the vetting of their assistants. Appoint analysts or whatever. Surrounding a newb with newbs is likely where the failure begins.
Being forced to finally fire his buddies is typically too late because you're now bringing in new faces and it's a perpetual cycle of inconsistency.
 
Red_Alert said:
From O and D coordinators to G5 HC's who make the step up, they're all a gamble. However, someone needs to take the risk on guys like Fickell and Napier no different than they did Urbs.
Guys like Frost and Neal Brown were hot at the G5 level, but struggle at their P5's. Maybe they just need more time or the added pressure is just too much for them. Who knows?
I think a lot of it has to do with who they surround themselves with as assistants. They want their G5 buddies who got them there to reap the benefits as well instead of leaving them behind and surrounding themselves with experienced P5 guys. See Frost with
Walters (OC), Verduzco (QB's), Austin (OL), and Held (RB's). All followed him from UCF and the offense has never gotten to the P5 level.
Nebraska's offense under Frost has been criticized for 'beating itself' with penalties and turnovers. Well penalties and turnovers happen because you're getting beat. Getting beat leads to the false starts and holding.
When things aren't going well, the HC doesn't want to see his long time buddy and their family in the unemployment line. The result is the HC himself being sent to the unemployment line.
IMO the AD's doing the hiring of these G5 coaches need to be more involved in the vetting of their assistants. Appoint analysts or whatever. Surrounding a newb with newbs is likely where the failure begins.
Being forced to finally fire his buddies is typically too late because you're now bringing in new faces and it's a perpetual cycle of inconsistency.
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I think that is 1/2 of it. I think the other half is recruiting. Urbs had top recruits at Florida and Ohio State. Superior coaching will win out when talent levels are close to the same. Hell, good coaches can win with inferior talent until that gap gets too large.
 
Deep Creek said:
I think that is 1/2 of it. I think the other half is recruiting. Urbs had top recruits at Florida and Ohio State. Superior coaching will win out when talent levels are close to the same. Hell, good coaches can win with inferior talent until that gap gets too large.
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And talent also makes up for dumb mistakes.
If a team is already struggling to move the ball, a false start or a hold is killer.
From 3rd and 1 to 3rd and 6, or from 3rd and 5 to 3rd and 15.
I've been watching the shitshow for years.
 
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